Tidal Keeps Sinking: Beyoncé And Rihanna Can’t Save ‘Biggest Disaster In Music History’ Read mor

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I swear I hate 75 percent of black folks. This is bigger than Rap don't yall understand this he is doing what Michael did with the masters think nikkas damn why are yall so asleep
Then stop making it a race issue. They have a problem with artists having control and not being slaves to the system, nothing to do with a black man being at the forefront if it.
The terrible marketing tactics tidal has done just made their jobs easier.
 

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The service has been here for a month in its current form, were you expecting it to get 10 million subscribers in a month like the biggest and best streaming service Spotify has accumulated over 10 years? :dead:

And your math is horrible, 770K * 10*12 != 7.7M, it's 7.7M*12.
So in its first year it'll probably do a minimum of 100 million and Jay will probably earn more from one concert. In 10-15 years though, that's what's interesting. Will Tidal make him a billionaire?


What happens to the business when 100-200 million cats are streaming? The number is already at around 20 million and exponentially increasing. That's 12-24 billion per year, say that Apple and Spotify claims 80-90% of that and the other 10-20 is Tidal and Google, that's still 1.2-2.4B's. That's an extremely hypothetical example but the point is that people make investments for the future, it's not crack slinging.
this is true but it doesn't seem like Jay sees it this way. The exclusive concert, exclusive albums etc are decent marketing tactics but seem desperate for the fact they've all been offered within the first 6 months with nothing else left to offer in the long term future. If those tactics didn't increase subscribers then what would be the point of doing anymore in the future?

If Jay was confident he would have let smaller artists do exclusive concerts/content and saved his one for a year or 2 down the line.
 

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And I keep telling everyone who says this to explain how the business model differs substantially from paid, Rdo, Google, Spotify, etc. and no one does. I can just tell who is not well read on the issue. Jack White and deadmau5 are just as annoyed as Jay. Jack White said the same shyt in his e-mails today. All of a sudden people care about whether the people on the other end are wealthy. But they do not care about this in any other field. One person straight up told Jack White that he is not going to support Jay Z making anymore money. That's the point. X Box had a terrible roll ut, did it really have 2 straight months of EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE letting you know how offended they were about the press conference? There were like 6 people legit outraged and people are acting like they spit on babies. Give me a fukking break. To top it off, everyone keeps harping on the 20 dollar model when Jay Z himself told you not to cop that shyt unless you have the equipment for it. Like come on breh. This is like @Walt who is no Jay Z admirer was sitting back amazed at the straight up smear campaign Boras and co were running to get Roc Nation out of sports. Now people care about the character of agents when we applauded slimy dudes getting that bread in that field for decades?

You dudes need to step outside of the coli which is in no way ever reflective of what is actually going on.

This is true, but what's amazing is dudes acting like the smear is not happening because they hate Hov :dead:
The Jack white story sounds like bullshyt made up to gain the public on their side and come across as the underdogs.

The root of the issue is Jay and them probably thought it was going to be a lot easier then it turned out to be and just now seeing the real dirty side of business. The smear campaign at least means the big companies do see them as a threat.
 

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It was foolish to introduce a streaming platform that entices customers to pay for music they can already hear on YouTube for free or at an established price over at Spotify.
 

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I wanted to support 50 :troll:

What's your deal anyway? You're upset that Tidal is failing but why? I explained earlier how whether it succeeds or not is irrelevant to anything to do with the black community. There is no "trickle down" here.. It sounds like a bunch of faux outrage which is to be expected on the net but it's fukking embarrassing :russ:
How am I upset tidal is failing? Where did I say that at? Making up shyt for no reason eh? I just don't understand how people on here keep posting these articles when we as a whole werent about that stuff that's all. If it fails succeeds doesn't help me but I don't understand that part. The people just talking about its pros/cons cool do that but it just seems weird that you don't see this many threads with other white companies to the same degree that's all.
 

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this is true but it doesn't seem like Jay sees it this way. The exclusive concert, exclusive albums etc are decent marketing tactics but seem desperate for the fact they've all been offered within the first 6 months with nothing else left to offer in the long term future. If those tactics didn't increase subscribers then what would be the point of doing anymore in the future?

If Jay was confident he would have let smaller artists do exclusive concerts/content and saved his one for a year or 2 down the line.
I believe that its for two main reasons, damage control and to make everyone aware of there being a 4th service.
 

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Black people crying are more annoying than homos crying now

Jay fukked up with this flop that's all there is to it

No It's racist lol shut up
 

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It's the same thing. Changing the name doesn't make it a new product.

Jay Re-launched it as Tidal. Re-launching an existing product is not the same as creating a brand new product. .

Nobody was buying Ciroc until Diddy got with it.:manny:
 
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How am I upset tidal is failing? Where did I say that at? Making up shyt for no reason eh? I just don't understand how people on here keep posting these articles when we as a whole werent about that stuff that's all. If it fails succeeds doesn't help me but I don't understand that part. The people just talking about its pros/cons cool do that but it just seems weird that you don't see this many threads with other white companies to the same degree that's all.

If Apple was failing there would be hundreds of threads about it. I don't believe people are "rooting" for Tidal to fail. Why, because kids post funny gifs that means everyone is actively rooting against him? :childplease:

There is reporting of the news and discussing why it isn't working.
 

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If Apple was failing there would be hundreds of threads about it. I don't believe people are "rooting" for Tidal to fail. Why, because kids post funny gifs that means everyone is actively rooting against him? :childplease:

There is reporting of the news and discussing why it isn't working.
Well when I see all these threads about a starting off white business failing I'll agree until FOH. Why do you keep doing like a chick and switching up shyt I say? Where did I say people are rooting for tidal to fail and or mention gifs? No need replying to me if you can't address the stuff I said instead of whatever shyt you got going on with others. Yeah its reporting but there is a few too many reporting threads and discussions why it isn't working that seem fugazy period. You don't have to agree that's cool but I don't agree with you so it is what it is.
 
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No need replying to me if you can't address the stuff I said instead of whatever shyt you got going on with others.

You replied to my posts where I said Tidal was a mediocre product and where I asked if people who take exception with that viewpoint actually bought a subscription. You accused me of "fishing" when in reality I was stating my opinion and asking a simple enough question so maybe address that instead. :pachaha:
 
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