Thingsfallapart
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Right. These nikkas don't even know what point they are trying to make. Mad because people won't support jay-z just because he's black. Then wanna clown a nikka for supporting another black man (Dre).
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Piff Perkins
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Beats By Dre suck but they were marketed well and also are a product people want. Whereas Tidal was marketed horribly and attempt to meet a demand (streaming) that is already being handled well. The issue isn't that Hov is rich. Dre is rich too, which undercuts Hov's argument. The problem is that Tidal was:
1) Tidal was/is marketed as a "revolution" that boiled down to paying more money to artists. This was later undermined by news that Tidal's royalties are only about 5% higher than Spotify's. Worse yet Tidal trotted out 20 top selling artists, none of whom have trouble selling music. The rollout felt more like a group of successful artists asking for more money than something that actually benefits fans.
2) The lack of a free tier. Spotify is successful largely because of the free tier, which eases people into the concept of paying money for streaming. The lack of a free tier further reinforces the impression that Tidal isn't consumer friendly and instead is all about giving more money to already rich artists.
Ultimately the failure is that Tidal is a premier service that wants to pose as a mainstream service. Beats charge ridiculous amounts for headphones and people buy them because they believe the sound quality is the best. And if your only exposure to headphones is shytty Apple headphones, of course you'll be blown away by Beats. Beats are also a product you can show off. Tidal is overcharging for something that people already get from Spotify. There is no "cool" factor here like with Beats. It's just streaming music, which is whatever to many people.
LogicFirst
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I appreciate your analysis and you make some salient points but it's honestly too early to tell.
1) Tidal hasn't been consistently name dropped by the artist that are invested in it. Jay Z is out front pushing it but when the other artist push it too they'll be a huge difference
2) Tidal objectively has a higher quality fidelity which will allow headphone companies to cosign because that fidelity makes their product sound better
3) They can always drop the price, those other companies can't raise their prices
4) There are a ton of marketing options for Tidal. They could bundle with other products
5) This is capitalism, the consumer airways wins when there's more competition
6) The music streaming business will morph into the music video streaming business and Jay may have the upper hand with that
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Jay is a huge c00n, but i won't actively root for a black man to fail. That being said, i and my wife are sticking with spotify because my profile is highly customized and the music selection is second to none.
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I have Beats cause I hate that Spotify makes you link to Facebook and it's easier on Beats to download to play music offline
LogicFirst
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If the new Kanye and Nas not on Spotify you gonna be mad?
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Naw. I actually still buy albums of artists i care to listen to. Nas is automatic purchase and I'll sample the new Kanye on youtube.
LogicFirst
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I don't know, that would be a deal breaker for me. I had Spotify and trust me, Beats is better.
LogicFirst
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You buy these albums digitally? Or CDs?
LogicFirst
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I like all these streaming services because at the end of the day I get to be open minded about artist I really don't know if I like or not without listening to
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Smartenup. Beats Streaming one stop shop.
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no it doesn't.
MouseTeeth
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Gee whiz brah did u really have to resort to calling me a "stupid fuller"? Take it easy....anyway I'm well aware that they are mining my data, i work for an affiliate network and i know firsthand it's virtually impossible to escape...do you use Facebook? Twitter? IG? Pandora? Spotify? Have u ever opted into anything on the Internet ever? Get off your high horse buddy...and no, I will never pay for a streaming service, especially a wack one like Tidal when I can use spotify for free.