Tidal Keeps Sinking: Beyoncé And Rihanna Can’t Save ‘Biggest Disaster In Music History’ Read mor

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Lol that's exactly what they did. "Worth" is an arbitrary #, anyone can believe something is worth anything. I think my pencil is worth $5Mill. You gonna buy it from me?

We know exactly what the revenues are, which is indicative of how much the company is worth. Just revenue, not profits is around $5mill. No dumbass in the world is gonna buy it for $250mill lol.


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If i own a company that brings in no revenue, but holds patents that could be extremely valuable for another company according to the bolded bullshyt my company isnt worth anything.
 
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Yall black people need to wake up and realize this shyt bigger than Jay dumb fukkas
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Are you being dense intentionally? Nas was Jay competition and Jay smashed his bm and dropped Takeover. That's how he handled it. I don't think it was wrong, alls fair :manny:. Grimey shyt happens in business as well, a "smear" campaign ran against Jay isn't some new thing it's business, why cry about it. Drop that takeover on your competitors

You came out of left field with that. Whatever though.
 

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It really isn't, he's charging more for an inferior product without a free version, and ontop of that he's trying to shame people into buying the shyt.

If tomorrow Tidal came out with a free version and a $8.99 a month offer for their high quality streaming people would be signing up in mass. You can't go against an established service that's cheaper & free, it makes no fukking sense. The people who pay for Spotify have no real reason to switch because the cost incentive isn't there, and the people who would try it out for free aren't there because there is no free version.

exactly...bad business model and bad marketing ploy as well

why trot out beyonce, rihanna, and madonna when the whole point of your service is to help the little guy? even a dumbass would know that's not how you market something that's supposed to benefit the struggling artsits
 

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There are a lot of ignorant people here but before you embarass yourself:

Say the "under $5 mil" profit you mentioned above was actually $1mn per month. Thats $12mn per annum. A cash purchase price of $52mn would imply that the Price to earnings ratio is around 4.2! Now, find me listed companies that offer that much value i.e earnings are on pace to make up for the valuation (ignoring potential growth or decline) in 4yrs. Thats a great investment!

Anyway, this is an article about nothing using dumb quotes. The price point for Tidal is actually the same as Spotify for comparable products and you'd expect any decent journalist to research and know this.
:myman: you know what you're talking g about
 

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we need to know the raw numbers. until then, all these articles are speculation and assumptions and since they are negative, its clearly a smear campaign. jay might need to pay these cacs off. to think those blacklivesmatter activists helped these cacs in their mission, ol cut ya nose of to spite ya face low expectation having dummies.
 

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that little freestyle of jay's has just strengthened the resolve of the cac media!!!
this shyt will just get worse, i believe!!!
But who cares? That's what makes this era in time so lovely, we don't need to deal with them anymore to decide to buy a product, we can go see for ourselves because everything is so direct to consumer now. That's why all this media bashing is funny, no one cares. If they want it, they will go get it, if they don't, they won't. Because the world is so big, Jay doesn't have to do Spotify numbers to make a profit, just get the fans themselves to see if they want it, and because it isn't a self service(other artists use the service) it can get real big with just the right amount of artist pushing it, and some clever campaigns to get people to subscribe.

I will always say if beats by dre sold so many headphones, and they were straight garbage for the price, anything can be done.
 

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Just a poor business decision all the way around...

So poor in fact I am convinced this thing servers no purpose than to loose a ton of money, which puts some people in a lower tax bracket...

Worked at a fortune 100 company once that owned another company for no other reason than to do this...lose millions of dollars so that the parent company avoids paying millions more int taxes...
 

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Ain't got shyt to do with stans, but it has everything to do with clowns making countless threads talking about how HOV lost.

well here's some more bytch :mjlol:

http://bgr.com/2015/04/21/tidal-vs-pandora-vs-spotify/

When Tidal made its big media push at the end of March, the core message was clear: while other streaming music services like Spotify and Pandora pay a pittance to artists, Tidal offers musicians a better deal. Unfortunately, Tidal also opted to use super stars like Nicki Minaj and Beyonce as spokespersons for the app. The result was the ultimate mixed message: You should feel sorry about how little money Nicki makes.

DON’T MISS: The same strategy that helped make Jay-Z’s Tidal a disaster is making Apple look brilliant

Two weeks after Tidal briefly cracked the U.S. iPhone top 20 download chart, the app has crashed out of the top 700. Apparently American consumers have limited empathy towards Beyonce and Nicki. Soon after the launch fiasco, Tidal’s CEO was kicked outin a “streamlining” move. The new CEO Peter Tonstad, a former consultant for the Norwegian Ministry of Environment, has his work cut out for him.

To make matters worse for Tidal, its main rivals are now surging. On April 20th, Pandora and Spotify occupied positions No. 3 and No. 4 on the U.S. iPhone revenue chart, respectively. This was the first time two music streaming services have hit the top 4 in sales simultaneously. In order to achieve the feat, Pandora and Spotify had to push Candy Crush Saga out of U.S. iPhone top 4 revenue chart, which is a remarkable achievement.

As a matter of fact, something curious can be seen in Spotify’s download performance right after Tidal media campaign started bashing its allegedly meager payouts. Spotify surged back into the iPad top 40 download chart on March 31st, right when Tidal’s anti-Spotify invective hit its peak in American media. This had not happened since November 2014.

It looks like Tidal’s attacks on Spotify and Pandora actually managed to increase public awareness of the services, boosting Spotify’s download performance in particular at the end of March. And now, a few weeks later, the combined revenue performance of the two music apps is hitting a new milestone. To add insult to injury, Beats Music has started cracking U.S. iPhone top 20 revenue chart.

This is the problem with attacking popular apps – negative media coverage often ends up just boosting them. Twitter rode a flurry of mocking or downright hostile news items to mainstream success. Snapchat leveraged sexual panic of US media about naughty photos to becoming a teen obsession. You can’t badmouth a strong app into a decline. In the hyper competitive app market, any media attention buoys apps with genuine consumer appeal.

Tidal is now facing no fewer than three deep-pocketed rival music apps and they’re all minting money and riding strong momentum. The new CEO must somehow find a way to mop up after the ill-advised March launch and find a way to reposition Tidal in a crowded market… preferably by not trying to make consumers feel bad for multimillionaires. Or giving its rivals extra attention.
 
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