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This may be dumbest post in here. Since when does every black owned business have to be a charity? Folks are just inventing new ways to slander and hate on this man at this point. First it cost more than 100k to run and sustain a grocery store let alone a chain of them plus Jay-z is a musician so this business is in line with his field of work. Tidal is a black owned streaming service. There are only a handful of streaming services out there. If you want a grocery store or black media service then put your own money up and start one. Why you worried about what lane Jay is investing his money in.

Do you have this criticism for every black businessman?.. Cause it would apply to all of them. Would you not support your barber if he uses the 20 dollars your paying him to buy Jordans from nike? What black business doesn't directly or indirectly support a white owned business in this country? they all do. It's unavoidable. Even if you had a black owned grocery store who do you think would be making 90% of the products sold in it? Not black people. blacks dont own that much yet but its gotta start somewhere. Jay is doing his part in the area he has the most experience and influence. You don't have use or like the service but keep the criticism to the actual service. All this other nonsense yall talking is ridiculous. You are doing the racist cacs work for them.

Cosign. I notice that whenever a black business tries to do something, these fake conscious dudes wanna jump up and say "what is he doing for the black community" as if any of the companies they faithfully give their money to have done shyt for the black community (Apple, Google, McDonalds, Polo, Nike, Walmart, Target, Wachovia, etc). And on top of that, a lot of those same companies actively discriminate against black people and have even be sued for it (Nike and Wachovia specifically).

For me it's simple. I have a streaming subscription with Spotify and I really, realy like Spotify. But Tidal offers a similar service and more importantly is owned by a black man. I'm giving my money to the black business 100% of the time no questions asked.

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

You left out the part where Black money has to circulate back in the Black community. How the fukk does Black entrepreneurship or Black support of businesses like Tidal help the Black community when none of that money is actually... You know... Going back into the Black community? Just because Black people own something doesn't mean the resources aren't going back into the pockets of cacs. What was the last Black owned ANYTHING (not named 'Tidal') shouted out by Jay-Z and Beyonce? Pretty sure they only push cac products in their songs and videos, they only wear clothing and shoes created by cacs, they hire cacs to work for them, they live in a cac neighborhood... Is any of that not harmful to the Black community? You want us to support Tidal because it's *good* for the Black community? How about we discuss how the money used to buy Tidal could have opened FIVE HUNDRED AND SIXTY Black owned grocery stores in the U.S. ($56 million divided by the average $100,000 startup costs for a grocery store.) Hell, they could probably have BOUGHT a media outlet with some of that money and wrote their OWN articles about Tidal on their BLACK OWNED MEDIA SERVICE. What was even the point of this streaming venture?! How does this help the Black community at ALL, if that's going to be your excuse?

Y'all are just pretending to be pro-Black at this point because you don't want your fav to fail at something.

preach my nikka...this has nothing to do with supporting "black businesses." That's just some bullshyt Camel stans made up to make themselves feel better about the vulture they stan for. They weren't saying shyt when Camel and his Nets partners bulldozed a bunch of black businesses in Brooklyn to build that ugly ass arena.

I was reading another article on Tidal, which is supposed to be for the little guy, and again more bad publicity...this time involving Beyonce:

now how are you going to garner sympathy for the artists when you have this dumb broad pouring a 20K bottle of Ace in a hot tub? again, poor marketing, and a slap in the face to consumers who have a choice between free service and a $20 service

 

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and you must of forgot when Microsoft received ton of backlash when they introduced the Xbox one

You're comparing Apples and Oranges though. The criticism Microsoft received was universal. Microsoft wanted to fundamentally shift the gaming business model to one that NOBODY WANTED.

 

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preach my nikka...this has nothing to do with supporting "black businesses." That's just some bullshyt Camel stans made up to make themselves feel better about the vulture they stan for. They weren't saying shyt when Camel and his Nets partners bulldozed a bunch of black businesses in Brooklyn to build that ugly ass arena.

I was reading another article on Tidal, which is supposed to be for the little guy, and again more bad publicity...this time involving Beyonce:

now how are you going to garner sympathy for the artists when you have this dumb broad pouring a 20K bottle of Ace in a hot tub? again, poor marketing, and a slap in the face to consumers who have a choice between free service and a $20 service

Who is comparing Spotify's free service to Tidal's paid service ?

 

[Stacker Pentecost]

preach my nikka...this has nothing to do with supporting "black businesses." That's just some bullshyt Camel stans made up to make themselves feel better about the vulture they stan for. They weren't saying shyt when Camel and his Nets partners bulldozed a bunch of black businesses in Brooklyn to build that ugly ass arena.

I was reading another article on Tidal, which is supposed to be for the little guy, and again more bad publicity...this time involving Beyonce:

now how are you going to garner sympathy for the artists when you have this dumb broad pouring a 20K bottle of Ace in a hot tub? again, poor marketing, and a slap in the face to consumers who have a choice between free service and a $20 service

Also I was working in Brooklyn (directly across the street from the arena) when they built Barclays and you are 100% right.

 

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

Cosign. I notice that whenever a black business tries to do something, these fake conscious dudes wanna jump up and say "what is he doing for the black community" as if any of the companies they faithfully give their money to have done shyt for the black community (Apple, Google, McDonalds, Polo, Nike, Walmart, Target, etc).

For me it's simple. I have a streaming subscription with Spotify and I really, realy like Spotify. But Tidal offers a similar service and more importantly is owned by a black man. I'm giving my money to the black business 100% of the time no questions asked.

And that's what Jay is banking on, cuz his service/product can't carry itself. Give him money cuz he's black. And that's up to you if you wanna do that. I get it. But Jay is an a$$hole and doesn't give a fukk about you. He just wants your money. Ask all of Jays ex friends from the hood what they think about him.

 

[Tom Foolery]

I want to comment about this situation, but I can't. I steal all my music, so .

 

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And that's what Jay is banking on, cuz his service/product can't carry itself. Give him money cuz he's black. And that's up to you if you wanna do that. I get it. But Jay is an a$$hole and doesn't give a fukk about you. He just wants your money. Ask all of Jays ex friends from the hood what they think about him.

Prove the bolded. What features is Tidal missing that makes it inferior to Spotify that'll have it called the biggest disaster in music history?

 

[Stacker Pentecost]

Here is what Tidal needs to do: In addition to the CEO, they need to fire their PR team IMMEDIATELY. They need to issue a public apology for the roll-out (similar to Instagram and Netflix after their blunders). They need to have another press conference with maybe JUST Jay-Z and the new CEO, where they 'start over' by announcing a free tier option (idgaf, they NEED a free tier option to be competitive in this market) and explaining IN-DEPTH the way the royalties work. They need to put more of a focus on how this benefits broke indie artists and behind the scenes creators like producers and songwriters. NOT multimillionaires that can afford to pour $20,000 down the drain literally. Distance these rich fukkers from the face of the project as much as possible.

They need to dial back the emphasis on 'exclusive' content, which was supposed to be a draw for fans but is only fostering resentment (I'm your fan, how are you telling me I HAVE to do xyz to have your content? fukk that, I'm going to catch it wherever I can BUT on your shytty subscription service because fukk you, that's why.). And they need to cut out ALL of this attempting to blackmail and guilt trip people into buying a subscription. It's not an essential, it's a luxury item, and supporting it does not make you a revolutionary. And they ABSOLUTELY need to stop trying to link Tidal to police brutality or public cases like Freddie Gray, which is simply crass as fukk and in extremely bad taste. They can still turn this thing around if they improve their business model.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Something about this anti Tidal campaign feels

Jay should have had a better plan though, they are right in that this really brings no value to the customer over existing services.

All of the major artists are rich enough to where they can sell direct to fans and negotiate bigger pieces of the pie, and in any case its still a recession... fans dont give a fukk about making rich artists richer.

But I do feel like the coalition is siccing their dogs on Greyhova to make an example out of him. Im at everyone involved

 

[boskey]

I just downloaded the datpiff app based on this thread and its amazing. All those classic mixtapes available instantly , I didn't even have to log in . Now thats good marketing... Thanks yall

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

as I stated before.....

jay will eventually catch up, he holds more chips than other streaming apps hence why you see these foolish articles

wait and see, 2 years.....maximum

and as usual, you're dikkriding ass is wrong

spotify app is a top-10 downloaded app

tidal fell out of the top 200 apps weeks ago, and trending downward

 

[boskey]

I just downloaded the datpiff app based on this thread and its amazing. All those classic mixtapes available instantly , I didn't even have to log in . Now thats good marketing... Thanks yall

Just downloaded Tidal too so I could legit say I gave a black man a chance. They won't let me listen to a single song unless I choose the 25.99 month plan or the 12.99 a month plan. This is terrible. Will never use it again.

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

Prove the bolded. What features is Tidal missing that makes it inferior to Spotify that'll have it called the biggest disaster in music history?

from CNET, but I'm sure you'll dismiss it because it's a CAC who wrote it

Tidal made a splash in the streaming music scene thanks to its celebrity-studdedre-launch that included the likes of Jay Z, Beyonce, Daft Punk, Kanye West, and Madonna -- it was like a gathering of the musical Avengers.

It differentiates itself with lofty claims of high-quality streaming music at the premium price of $19.99, exclusive content from artists (including but not limited to those in attendance,) and paying artists (including but not limited to those in attendance) more royalties from streaming -- something top competitor Spotify isoften criticized about.

All of that sounded good to me and I was eager to sign-up. After months of having performance problems with my current beau, Spotify, I was ready to jump intosomething new and improved. I was ready to move -- as Jay Z, owner of Tidal, once said -- onto the next one. As a huge music nerd, this is my personal experience with Tidal, but stay tuned for CNET's full review of the service soon.

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Trying out Tidal
Instead of the lossless audio subscription, I signed up for the $9.99 option because I was looking for something to replace my current $9.99 Spotify subscription. Although I didn't sign up for the high-quality streaming, I still noticed an audible difference between Tidal and Spotify.


Songs streaming with Tidal sounded fuller, with warmer tones that give bass a nice little oomph. In comparison, songs streamed on Spotify have crisper highs that sound harsher at loud volumes.

Unfortunately, Tidal took its time to load songs and often stopped mid-stream to buffer. Waiting 5 to 10 seconds for a song to play or buffer isn't a big deal...if it's 1998 and you're using a 56K modem. These issues happened when I was connected to fast Internet connections and on T-Mobile's 4G LTE network. Out of all of the streaming music services I've tried, only Rhapsody (the worst, in my experience) has offered a similarly frustrating experience.

Currently there's no desktop application available, so streaming music on your computer means using a Web player. As someone who listens to music for a majority of their 9-to-5 desk job, I make heavy use of the navigation controls on the top row of my keyboard. Playing music through the browser didn't allow me to control the music via the keys, causing me to open the consistently minimized window to simply skip or pause a song. A minor inconvenience, but an inconvenience nonetheless.

With no desktop app, you're left using the Web player.Screenshot CNET
A sucker for sleek aesthetics, I found the simplicity of the Tidal Android app enticing. However, its performance quickly turned me against it. One of the biggest deal breakers was the consistent bugginess of the app. Crashing and freezing (sometimes both) was the performance status quo. If I used the app for more than an hour with no problems, I was shocked and mildly impressed.

A nice addition to the Tidal app is the built-in audio search, similar to Shazaam and Soundhound. I often use the latter apps to discover new music, but Tidal's version didn't work nearly as well as them.

Troubleshooting support with Tidal is also abysmal. Not that Spotify is any better, however Tidal is so new, not even smart strangers on Internet forums have quick fixes for performance problems.

Tidal's execution lacks the finesse necessary to keep new users away from veteran services like Spotify and Pandora. No amount of exclusive content is persuasive if basic functionality is severely lacking.

The Tidal app is available for Android and iOS.Screenshot by Sarah Mitroff/CNET
And the winner is...
I cancelled my Tidal subscription after one month. I didn't receive a call from Jay Z, but I did get a pair of emails which proclaimed Tidal was sorry to see me go. The messages also divulged why I should stay, and one curiously inquired if I had made a mistake and accidentally unsubscribed. It felt like a string of emails from an ex who's in denial.

I wholeheartedly believe in compensating artists for their work and I approve of Tidal's goal. Putting money back into the hands of creators is a commendable effort, however, masquerading the for-profit streaming service as a social movement about supporting the arts is ridiculous.

At the end of the day, I am a consumer not a philanthropist, and I want the service I pay for to meet my expectations -- or at least the standards set by its competition. Due to my lackluster experience trying out Tidal, I'm sticking with Spotify for now, not out of loyalty, but because it's currently the best streaming service for my needs. Look for CNET's full review of Tidal soon.

 

[JayGatsby]

Again, when Camel was bulldozing


and as usual, you're dikkriding ass is wrong

spotify app is a top-10 downloaded app

tidal fell out of the top 200 apps weeks ago, and trending downward

can you read?