Tiffany Haddish asks "What happened to Canibus?"

[Awesome Wells]

The irony is that universal owns Def Jam and interscope and Bis was going against Def Jam's first artist (not counting T la Rock) and what turned out to be Interscope's biggest artist (with the possible exception of 2pac)

Right! But he was signed to the label directly. You need a Hip Hop label under the parent company, so that they can make sure you're getting that push. Cash Money was doing that under Universal at the time. But the label focused on Godsmack, Vanilla Ice, and Chico DeBarge around the time Bis dropped his album, lol. Rakim was signed to them directly too, and he said they didn't really push his shyt either, a year before.

 

[TripleAgent]

I bet she disgustingly nasty, in a way, in the sheets

She just refused a role where she got her face nutted on, claiming she doesn't go for that in real life, she's probably trash. She'd have to be nasty AF to put up with her bullshyt.

I can't agree that Wyclef ruined Bis' career. Even if you put Canibus with Premo, he still wasn't guaranteed to blow up. it might've made for better music. Big Punisher was an incredible lyricist who blew and was making noise around the time Bis was and his album was mostly produced by producers who weren't huge. Yeah he had a RZA beat, but for the most part, Big Punisher blew because he had songs. It was genius because he had "I'm Not A Player" which was rugged and more street in spite of the O'Jays sample. Then he came with a far more commercial song in "Still Not A Player", but he didn't compromise the showcase of skill.

The producer list on that album was great, he just had NY regional guys on there. RZA was just the only household name.

Juju - Beatnuts, underground kings of NY
L.E.S. - Produced a classic song on Illmatic, did a lot with QB artists
Showbiz - NY underground legend
Rockwilder - Erick sermon protege with a solid name, did 2 joints on Muddy Waters

that's wrong

LL changed his verse to diss Canibus, and then Canibus changed his own verse and dissed LL when the company decided to throw him on the remix

I'm the illest dude alive, watch me prove it/
I'LL SNATCH YOUR CROWN WITH YOUR HEAD STILL ATTACHED TO IT (YEAH)/

Bis changed his verse at L's request to take out the mic line to throw people off the scent of L dissing him.

 

[seemorecizzy]

low key, canibus killed diz in that first round

 

[TripleAgent]

low key, canibus killed diz in that first round

That doesn't fit the narrative or make for jokes

 

[Deltron]

That doesn't fit the narrative or make for jokes

he only lost when he whipped out the notepad...before that, Diz was losing

 

[Alvin]

My favorite freestyle from him

 

[Alvin]

I know this shyt off the top of my head.
Still one of the funniest lines to me...

"Cause whenever the head is severed from the human body with a sharp enough weapon the brain re-mains conscious for 10 seconds.
Long enough for me deliver you 1 last message so when you go to Hell
You can tell
Lucifer i said it!"

 

[Alvin]

Havent heard McGruff name in FOREVER

Cam and ma$e need to reconnect with him, but the way it looks it's looking like Jim might have to take the handle

 

[ledge]

Bis even outshined fukking Pharoahe Monch on his own joint:

 

[DANJ!]

that's wrong

LL changed his verse to diss Canibus, and then Canibus changed his own verse and dissed LL when the company decided to throw him on the remix

I'm the illest dude alive, watch me prove it/
I'LL SNATCH YOUR CROWN WITH YOUR HEAD STILL ATTACHED TO IT (YEAH)/

That didn't happen...

The snatch your crown verse and all that was on the original version (after Canibus changed his lyric). It's on the album that dropped in '97.

The company left him out of the original VIDEO in '97, just keepin' it Def Jam with L, X, Red & Meth. They later added him to the video (along with Master P) as the "remix" in early '98. But the only person that got added on to the actual song and wasn't originally there was P, (which wasn't even L's call, that was a Def Jam thing cause he was hot at the time). Canbus got added to the video because he and LL had that convo about the dissin' and were supposed to have been cool again. Then of course, Canibus came with the K.O. and there that went.

 

[DANJ!]

Right! But he was signed to the label directly. You need a Hip Hop label under the parent company, so that they can make sure you're getting that push. Cash Money was doing that under Universal at the time. But the label focused on Godsmack, Vanilla Ice, and Chico DeBarge around the time Bis dropped his album, lol. Rakim was signed to them directly too, and he said they didn't really push his shyt either, a year before.

True.. Universal's own rap lineup and the way they marketed was straight trash. It's a complete surprise that they happened to strike big with Nelly in 2000, because they didn't do a lot of great promo on him either when he was about to come out. They just threw the shyt out there, it caught fire, then they acted on it. And even as that was happening, they were still just tossing acts out there with little to no promo. Their biggest successes besides Nelly came thru other labels they distributed.

 

[Wild self]

I can still rap the beasts from the east verse word for word haha I think it's permanently etched into my memory

Back in the day/ when Bob Marley was rocking a fade

 

[Wild self]

I disagree. He trusted Clef to helm the production and did what he could with what he had. Contractually, he may have had no choice. If he had just rode the hype and got an Illmatic-esque collection of the hottest producers and just went off, he probably would have blown up. Clef gave him a gang of weird shyt sampling trains and Q-Bert



You bugging the fukk out. Canibus was damn near legendary before his album came out. He had damn near the whole game under pressure off guest verses and freestyles. If his first album was handled and produced correctly, rap music history is different.

Can-I-Bus had the likes of prime Redman, prime Ghostface, and prime DMX sweating under extreme pressure on guest appearances. Lyrically, there wasn't a living MC that could say that, but him.

 

[TripleAgent]

Can-I-Bus had the likes of prime Redman, prime Ghostface, and prime DMX sweating under extreme pressure on guest appearances. Lyrically, there wasn't a living MC that could say that, but him.

Nas skipped a whole song to avoid the smoke.

 

[ledge]

Can-I-Bus had the likes of prime Redman, prime Ghostface, and prime DMX sweating under extreme pressure on guest appearances. Lyrically, there wasn't a living MC that could say that, but him.

we could make a list.
You could also throw in Nore, Mos Def, Pun, Kurupt, and if you believe urban legends, all of Wu Tang.

he was literally battling now-legendary MC’s in their prime… during arguably the greatest years of the culture… and coming out with the most memorable verses of them all.

Anyone calling Bis underrated obviously was not part of that era.