Tim Duncan gets emotional when asked about final matchup with Kobe Bryant

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The fact that you really believe that is why I say Kobe/Lakers fans is the dumbest fanbase in all of sports
I think it's a tie between them and Boston sports fans. Those guys are fukking worthless posters too and maybe 5-10% of them know anything about sports. At least they don't talk about both sides of their mouths and contradict their own arguments as much as Kobe stans do though.
 

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Name one of his noteworthy contemporaries that haven't given him his due or neg yourself
There's a difference in acknowledging he's a great player and suckin his dikk. Timmy acknowledged he was a great player. Ray Allen, KG, Paul Pierce, T-Mac, AI, Shaq, etc all acknowledge he was a great player. These other nikkas takin da nikka out to dinner, askin for shoes, actin all buddy-buddy wit da nikka during games is suckin his dikk, Timmy ain't bout dat shyt and I respect dat
 

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I could win 5 rings playing with david robinson ginobili parker and kawhi

No you couldnt:mjlol:

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Wait, so this is another revisionist thread where the Land of Kobestan tries to compare a head-to-head team record against another star by throwing in all the years where Shaq dominated as if Kobe was going mano-a-mano with the other team? :russ:


Only one playoff matchup after 2004? What the hell happened? Did Kobe's prime end at age 25 or something? :troll:


Wait, I know what happened. :shaq::lolbron:


Kobe sitting there with 3 failures to get in the playoffs at all, 3 first-round exits, and 2 second-round exits since Shaq left.

Duncan was waiting there in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2012, 2013, 2014 and this year too if Kobe coulda done shyt in the playoffs.
Im not getting this logic. In the years with Shaq, "as if kobe was going mano a mano with the other team", supporting the idea that Kobe was not alone in those conquests. Then you mention 3 first round exits. Not that the Lakers had 3 first round exits, but Kobe did.
My question is this. How come, when Kobe was successful, he was a part of a team, but when he wasn't successful, there is no mention of the rest of the team anywhere?
 

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Kobe averaged 28-6-5 and a steal against Duncan's teams in the playoffs. On 24 shots/game as the secondary focus for the defense.
Duncan averaged 25-14-4 and two blocks against Kobe's teams in the playoffs. On 19 shots/game as the primary focus for the defense.

Kobe won more series because he had Shaq on his team for 5 out of 6 of them, and no other reason. Everything about the Spurs' game plan was focused on trying to stop the most dominant player in the NBA, and everything in the Lakers' game plan was focused on trying to stop the best all-around big man in the NBA. Kobe was the guy that Pop let shoot as much as he wanted while he tried to get the ball out of Shaq's hands.
So what happened between the spurs and Lakers when Shaq was gone?:jbhmm:
 

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Wait, so this is another revisionist thread where the Land of Kobestan tries to compare a head-to-head team record against another star by throwing in all the years where Shaq dominated as if Kobe was going mano-a-mano with the other team? :russ:


Only one playoff matchup after 2004? What the hell happened? Did Kobe's prime end at age 25 or something? :troll:


Wait, I know what happened. :shaq::lolbron:


Kobe sitting there with 3 failures to get in the playoffs at all, 3 first-round exits, and 2 second-round exits since Shaq left.

Duncan was waiting there in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2012, 2013, 2014 and this year too if Kobe coulda done shyt in the playoffs.


So we gonna act like Duncan didnt roleplay to Tony Parker and Kawhi Leonard in these last championship runs??:usure:
 

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The fact that you really believe that is why I say Kobe/Lakers fans is the dumbest fanbase in all of sports
Nah breh, he expressed his feelings and profound respect for Kobe a whole lot of times over that weekend, paying homage.
 

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I think it's a tie between them and Boston sports fans. Those guys are fukking worthless posters too and maybe 5-10% of them know anything about sports. At least they don't talk about both sides of their mouths and contradict their own arguments as much as Kobe stans do though.
Just keep dapping dudes on the low like the bytch that you are. It's obvious that if someone doesn't agree with you there's a problem. Indirect posting coward.
 

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That was one series where they both balled out. Kobe was guarded the whole time by a 36-year-old ready-to-retire Bruce Bowen and feasted. Duncan put up ridiculous stat lines, but that was the year his supporting cast started aging out (Bowen, Finley, Barry, Horry all ready to retire yet Bowen and Finley starting and Barry was their #4 scorer). And Ginobli had a shyt series. Parker should have feasted against Fisher but laid an egg the first two games. I give Kobe credit for shooting well in that series, but it doesn't define their careers.

Some of the lines Duncan put up:

30-18-2-2-4
22-21-5
29-17-3-3-3
19-15-10

That was the ONE time that Kobe faced Duncan without Shaq, even though he's been balling 13 years since then and the Spurs made at least the 2nd round in 11 of those years.






And it sucks for them that that's been most of the time TheColi has been around.

That's why so many Kobestans have "4000 posts, 3000 daps, negative 2000 rep" stat lines. :lolbron:
Breh, I'm just posting facts. Dice it up the way you want. Also, I can't speak for their daps and negs, I'm good on that level and besides that's corny.
 

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Im not getting this logic. In the years with Shaq, "as if kobe was going mano a mano with the other team", supporting the idea that Kobe was not alone in those conquests. Then you mention 3 first round exits. Not that the Lakers had 3 first round exits, but Kobe did.
My question is this. How come, when Kobe was successful, he was a part of a team, but when he wasn't successful, there is no mention of the rest of the team anywhere?

I'm just using their Kobestan logic against them. Of course it's all a team effort. Playoff basketball at the top level is never two stars playing one-on-one.

Either they have to acknowledge that teams win championships, not individuals, or they have to admit that prime Kobe goes three straight years without winning a playoff series, not the Lakers team.

I've never been a proponent of the idea that one player can win a ring by himself.




So we gonna act like Duncan didnt roleplay to Tony Parker and Kawhi Leonard in these last championship runs??:usure:

Why are we even talking about the 2007 or 2014 series? Spurs weren't playing the Lakers in either year.

Since I have no clue what da fukk you're trying to deflect with, I'll answer your question multiple ways.

Tim Duncan was FAR better and more important in the 2007 and 2014 Finals than Kobe was in the 2000 Finals. So if this is some sort of ridiculous ring-counting exercise, you're not taking from Duncan's 5 unless you're taking from Kobe too. And Duncan's still counting his 3 Finals MVP awards to Kobe's 2.


In 2007 Duncan was clearly the star and leader of the Spurs. 1st-team All-NBA, 1st-team All-Defensive, averaged 22-12-3-1-3 in the playoffs on 52% shooting. Parker didn't even make an All-NBA team that year (nor did anyone else on the Spurs). Parker got Finals MVP because he ripped up rookie Boobie Gibson in an easy 4-game sweep, but that doesn't change the fact that Duncan was the best player on that team by a long shot. (Pause to note that Boobie Gibson was 2nd in minutes, 3rd in scoring, and 2nd in assists for that Cleveland squad. :deadrose: As a fukking rookie! He wasn't even good later.)

In 2014 it was a bit less clear - in terms of offense, defense, and leadership, you had Duncan, Leonard, and Parker all about equally important. The offense was more running through Parker than running through Duncan even though they scored about the same (back then Kawhi just feasted on what they set up for him), and Duncan/Leonard were probably equally important on defense with very different roles. Duncan/Parker were still the leaders of the team.
 
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