Timbaland Says No More Producers Anymore, Calls Drake The King

[Hardaway]

So what exactly are Vinlyz, Frank Dukes, etc. doing to receive credit for their production? Using your logic, they aren't doing the work either.

There's no magic in Timbaland's production, yet the likes of Beyonce, Jay Z, Rihanna, etc. still use him.


There's soundclick producers who sell instrumentals all day. There's a difference between a random soundclick producer and people who made it like a Johnny Juliano. The difference is that Johnny Juliano developed a sound with Wiz. It isn't just about instrumentals.

Status has nothing to do with getting a production credit if you aren't delivering something that people like. Tricky and The Dream are big names in the industry. When's the last time you've seen their name in a credit? The industry does not care who you are and it's moved away from a producer getting work because of their name. There have been more up and coming producers getting work on big projects than ever before and it's possibly cheaper.

sohh i guess milli "just makes beats" but timbaland telling a nikka "hey do that take again" (if he even did that, nikkas send files these days and timbaland ain't leaving the house to work on tiller, who was a nobody before that project blew, or push who is perpetually a C-list rapper) really made the record what it is, not the musical foundation of the track

^^^ Timbaland has made hits for artists people never heard of before. Nobody knew Petey, Nicole Wray, Bubba Sparxxx, or Tweet. He has mixtape full of artists that aren't known.

all of them make beats dumbass

what are you even talking about

i just explained why "real producing" (chit chatting with the artist) ain't shyt compared to making a beat

why does tim even have milli to make his beats when he should be able to make hot songs outta wacc beats since he a real producer i guess he can talk to the artist until they create fire out of a terrible ass beat

man shut the fucc up with your dumb ass real hip hop platitudes u coli ass nikka
u have no critical thinking in u, must have sub 80 IQ

people use timbaland for the name
u got underground rappers geeking over premo and pete rock beats best believe they're saving their favorite stale ass 90s raps for those beats
the name is a greater effect than any in studio interaction which is overrated af in a genre where the artists write everything themselves

the only producer doing ur unrealistic forum ass vision of producing is kanye
other people just tryna get beats off that's it, no one has the time and pull and desire to be micromanaging shyt like that

 

[JustCKing]

all of them make beats dumbass

what are you even talking about

i just explained why "real producing" (chit chatting with the artist) ain't shyt compared to making a beat

why does tim even have milli to make his beats when he should be able to make hot songs outta wacc beats since he a real producer i guess he can talk to the artist until they create fire out of a terrible ass beat

man shut the fucc up with your dumb ass real hip hop platitudes u coli ass nikka
u have no critical thinking in u, must have sub 80 IQ

And again, you're basing production on what YOU feel is real production. Music production existed before Hip Hop and the definition of it didn't change with Hip Hop. Almost everybody makes beats these days because they have access to the equipment for free. Them making beats doesn't make them a producer. A beat =/= a song unless it's intended to just be an instrumental.

I never said Milli made Timbaland's beats. You assumed that. My point is making beat does not mean you're a producer. Producers have the ability to adapt their sound to anyone or push the artist to sound different over something more challenging.

You're the last one to be questioning anyone's IQ considering you're on a message board fuming because you're mad that a producer from the 90's is bigger than any one of the flavor of the month producers you're stanning.

 

[Hardaway]

And again, you're basing production on what YOU feel is real production. Music production existed before Hip Hop and the definition of it didn't change with Hip Hop. Almost everybody makes beats these days because they have access to the equipment for free. Them making beats doesn't make them a producer. A beat =/= a song unless it's intended to just be an instrumental.

I never said Milli made Timbaland's beats. You assumed that. My point is making beat does not mean you're a producer. Producers have the ability to adapt their sound to anyone or push the artist to sound different over something more challenging.

You're the last one to be questioning anyone's IQ considering you're on a message board fuming because you're mad that a producer from the 90's is bigger than any one of the flavor of the month producers you're stanning.

now free equipment talk wow u a flabby ass nikka for real

and ion stan shyt timbaland just terrible

u some 36 year old nikka listening to volume 3 jay z thinking that shyt hot
gas urself

 

[JustCKing]

now free equipment talk wow u a flabby ass nikka for real

and ion stan shyt timbaland just terrible

u some 36 year old nikka listening to volume 3 jay z thinking that shyt hot
gas urself

You're calling me old, yet you don't know that people can get music production and engineering equipment from the Internet for free.

I'm actually looking forward to being 36. One day you're going to reach that age and the music you think is hot now will be irrelevant to the youth. Oh, wait, most of it already is.

 

[JustCKing]

And I'm going to end on this note:

10 Songs That Blew My Mind: DJ Mustard

1. Jay Z feat. UGK, "Big Pimpin’" Produced by Timbaland
   
   "Timbaland, that’s my dog. I can come to him for whatever and we’ll talk for hours. He’s one of those people that wants to see you be successful, not the kind that’s mad when you’re coming up. That shyt was so hard. It’s just a fukkin’ hit. The fact that you can still play that record ’till this day amazes me. Once again, timeless music."

^^^ Apparently, DJ Mustard still listens to songs from Vol. 3 too. I guess he's also old.

 

[SirBiatch]

You're calling me old, yet you don't know that people can get music production and engineering equipment from the Internet for free.

I'm actually looking forward to being 36. One day you're going to reach that age and the music you think is hot now will be irrelevant to the youth. Oh, wait, most of it already is.

ether

But lmao at dude saying no one listens to songs from Vol 3 He even knows damn well that aint true. It's just the insecurity talking

 

[HandsomeBrute]

 

[I love Latina women]

i finished listenin' to the interview

timbaland been playin' politician more than ever for the last few years; hypin' up jay's magna carta album like it was gon be the new next level shyt, tryin' to hype up tink, talkin' bout missy's comeback and now the "drake is the king" talk

back to his production work though; those last 2 justin albums he worked on were cool but it was him on cruise control

i ain't really felt timb's production since 06' on that 2nd justin album he worked on and then that nelly furtado album. he was reinvigorated as a producer with danja help

timb ain't really got that pulse on music no more. he just coastin' and really just kinda doin' whatever. i knew when i heard him on monica's latest cd and he was doin' future imitations that he was lost in the sauce and just playin' monkey see, monkey do

shyt, he know he good so long as he gettin' those empire checks so all he gotta do is coast. he ain't hungry no more but it happens
nobody stays on top of their game forever

all in all, it was a decent interview and those 2 guys who freestyled, no comment lol

 

[DrexlersFade]

now free equipment talk wow u a flabby ass nikka for real

and ion stan shyt timbaland just terrible

u some 36 year old nikka listening to volume 3 jay z thinking that shyt hot
gas urself

And I'm going to end on this note:

10 Songs That Blew My Mind: DJ Mustard

1. Jay Z feat. UGK, "Big Pimpin’" Produced by Timbaland
   
   The fact that you can still play that record ’till this day amazes me. Once again, timeless music."

^^^ Apparently, DJ Mustard still listens to songs from Vol. 3 too. I guess he's also old.

 

[McPiff]

Dude said Mustard > Timbo, Nic fukkin Nac > Timbo

Thecoli.com yall

 

[SoulController]

Frank Dukes been around since 05, dude got way too much work prior to lump him in with 40 and Boi 1da

his co-prods with Boi are usually pretty good tho

 

[malbaker86]

For some reason tweets won't show up anymore

I get this same issue using firefox

 

[NV-ME]

whats the name of the two rappers

 

[Deltron]

whats the name of the two rappers

Blaze and Tweezie

 

[Animal House]

Making beats is just one part of being a producer. You have to be confident in working with an artist+ engineer in all aspects of the song making process ie. producing an actual record not just producing a beat... this means being involved in songwriting, artist coaching, vocal coaching.. etc.

Those soft skills or interpersonal skills is what makes a full scoped producer. Alot of the producing work these days is being done by some engineers because the producer is so removed from the creative process nowadays.

The best thing a producer can do is produce a talent.. take some local artist and be involved in everything and make them dope. Do that a couple times and you will have skills that put you a cut above the plethora of guys that can make dope beats on FL or logic

This only applies if said rapper can shine without said producer