Time To Kill This Myth That DMX Had One Of The Worst Falloffs

[Still Benefited]

I think you can compare eras in select cases where there are parallels and you take those important factors into account.

I think the Rick Ross run post-Deeper Than Rap is a fair comparison because neither of them had a true smash hit and were big because of the streets. DMX just benefitted from debuting in the right era. And I think Rick Ross could've had success in the late 90s, because Trick Daddy did. Even Silk Da Shocker had two platinum albums in the late 90s. I'm not saying he'd have DMX success, because he had a wave that went unmatched til 50 cent.

I agree that Drake is a product of his era though. He couldn't have survived any Pre-Kanye era because he didn't have the legitimacy that you needed back then. I don't think it's easier to have a run today though. I think it's tougher to break through when the top of the mainstream game is controlled by fewer artists, and shazam, spotify, and iTunes keeps the biggest artists at the forefront while keeping everyone else fighting for scraps.

DMX debut'd in the shiny suit era where you could argue he had to be really good to break through in that climate....Ross benefited post Jeezy era,and as you already said Drake benefited post Kanye...comparing a nikka who helped CHANGE the climate to nikkas who benefited from a climate somebody else already created?Nah you gotta rethink that one...ill give drake credit on the fact people were resistant to his singing maybe,but not Ross.

And to say Rick Ross had the streets?Also I think is a serious overstatement,especially if we gon compare it to how DMX and Trick daddy had the streets

And doesn't the bolded explain how its easier to have a run?We not talking about breaking through which is debatable seeing as how you can completely bypass having to get hot organically in your own backyard....you can skip that and go straight to getting the machine to push you.

But you admit yourself the mainstream game is controlled by a few artist,and how companys and media keep the big artist at the forefront....that in itself tells you its easier to have a long run if you agree the top artist are getting help to stay in that position

 

[Black_Jesus]

K-Rino does what X can't

can K-Rino tour and sell out venues worldwide ?

 

[Rapmastermind]

source?

• US: 1,862,000 "soundscan"

It's shipped 2 Million bro, that's double. It debut at #1 with 439,000 copies sold. "The Great Depression" was the beginning of the fall off. Uneven album but had plenty of bangers. "Grand Champ" was like the last hurrah for him. But X had impact even more outside of Hip Hop as he started his movie career also.

 

[Rapmastermind]

DMX's sales and commercial success say more about his era than him. DMX was huge in the steroid era in Hip Hop. EVERYONE was going platinum with no hit singles. Once the Post-Napster era started, his huge numbers dwindled and his fan base suddenly disappeared? That means he was just a product of his era. He sold 12 million albums in a 2 year span, releasing 3 albums between 98 and 99. Then he was never close to that again.

It's tougher to sell albums in this era than it was then. You have to take that into consideration when you mention Drake's run vs DMX's. Think about how Rick Ross took over for a run about as long as DMX's, was everywhere, and couldn't even go platinum. DMX wouldn't be anywhere near multi-platinum if he dropped those albums today.

It's easy to look at the 90's success and call it the Steroid Era but when you look inside the numbers. Everyone wasn't moving the units DMX did. He was going 4x and 5x platinum at his peak. Yes it's tougher to sell albums post Naspter but DMX still managed to do it well into the 2000's. I'd also argue it's easier to get access to music today then when I was coming up. We had to get vinyl, cassette or CD and had to get it at a store. Someone today can buy an album or song at the click of a button. Also Rick Ross Run is not comparable to X's run at all. X OUTSOLD the competition Ross has never outsold anyone. X's Run is more impressive cause he did it without the huge hits but with albums sales. He also managed to make songs like "Get at Me Dog" top 40 hits.

 

[Shamrock32]

I disagree with OP in the sense that... DMX definitely fell off earlier than he should have.

But I will say this - too often, you mention DMX's name and people react like " DMX." It makes sense in some ways because people's minds will always connect with the recent, but X was a giant. His prime = exceeding expectations without question.

It's Dark & Hell Is Hot, ...And Then There Was X and Flesh of My Flesh, Blood of My Blood.... I still listen to on the regular

 

[VegasCAC]

Compare DMX, one of the realest, grittiest street rappers ever in any way to some fat scrub PO officer and Drake brehs




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[Ronnie Lott]

DMX had at least 4 standout albums. with 1 or 2 of them being classics. the last standout being over 5 years after his debut. that alone is more than the standard run. not to mention all the tours, compilations, guest features, movies, etc.

plus X was around alot longer than some of you think. he was no spring chicken.

this whole DMX fell off bad stuff is illogical. people applying post-viacom logic to the '90s- early '00s.
just cuz hes not being shoved down our throats everyday like other washed-up rappers, doesnt mean that he fell off any worse than them.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

31:44 for the Anthem..
Listen to the crowd!





X was the man...I was like 9 years old listening to his shyt when I shouldn't have been...had to bury my homeboys tapes because his mom didn't give a fukk what he listened to

Crack is wack brehs...

 

[Thizzlam]

I agree that DMX had one of the worst fall offs ever.

But nobody in the history of Hip Hop has fallen off more than Rza- he had a run where he was arguably the best producer ever. Now? Garbage.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

X should have been able to be rich forever off hip hop. 15 dope songs + 5 hugely popular songs=touring forever. Instead X fell off massively and quickly. One of the worst cases in hip hop history.

 

[NerdBird]

Song is a straight classic. Classic club record which also takes shots at kurupt to add the the enjoyment.
Album also features

"one more road to cross, one more risk to take... GOTTA LIVE MY LIFEEEEE LIKE THERES ONE MORE MOVE TO MAKE"

 

[BulletProof]

I only fukk with his first three albums.

 

[spliz]

It's easy to look at the 90's success and call it the Steroid Era but when you look inside the numbers. Everyone wasn't moving the units DMX did. He was going 4x and 5x platinum at his peak. Yes it's tougher to sell albums post Naspter but DMX still managed to do it well into the 2000's. I'd also argue it's easier to get access to music today then when I was coming up. We had to get vinyl, cassette or CD and had to get it at a store. Someone today can buy an album or song at the click of a button. Also Rick Ross Run is not comparable to X's run at all. X OUTSOLD the competition Ross has never outsold anyone. X's Run is more impressive cause he did it without the huge hits but with albums sales. He also managed to make songs like "Get at Me Dog" top 40 hits.

Anyone comparing Ross to DMX is sniffing whiteout...X shifted an era and had a love from the streets unmatched since him...nikkas can say 50 did at first but X could literally go anywhere by himself and get love..noone would try to test him cause nikkas genuinely had love for that nikka...

 

[H.I.M.]

can K-Rino tour and sell out venues worldwide ?

No.

But he can fukk your bytch.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I try my hardest to understand exactly what DMX did that 50 cent didn't do and I cant? I can only guess people connected to X music on a emotional level cuz he made deep music...but as far as a run I would say they run was about the same commericially for me.....and if you count 50's mixtape days lowkey he got the advantage....yet I see people try to downplay what he did all the time.

Yeah I remember what X helped do when we was in the shiny suit era,and i know he's a person who you wanna root for,but cut it out yall...I'd rather be facing drug addiction and movies than what 50 was up against....plenty of classics have been made while on drugs,and as many have said dude may have never NOT been on drugs.

not a 50 stan by the way,his career aint that great either but you cant hold up one and not the other.

Good post. I agree and disagree. I agree that you can't hold one up without the other, and that lowkey back in the Power of the Dollar/Guess Who's Back, and the mixtape days that 50 dropped a lot of simple but very dope gems. I think X's debut had a few more deeper songs like Look Thru My Eyes, Let Me Fly, I Can Feel It, and The Convo. GRODT had Many Men. That's not really my point. IDAHIH and GRODT both changed the landscape of the game.

The one thing I disagree with you on is the level of grittiness. They both changed directions and brought things back to a gritty level, but X's level was really dark. 50 had records like PIMP, 21 Questions, In Da Club, Blood Hound, and Like My Style. DMX's first album had songs where he rapped as the devil's son, talked about raping his enemies' 15 year old daughters in front of them, songs cursing at God with God cursing back, had songs about suicide by cop (twice, once by blowing up a building with him), multiple personality disorder on a song, and did surgeries with a chainsaw.

Jokes aside, X's first singles were Get At Me Dog and then Stop Being Greedy. The 180 that was from the shiny suit era was crazy. Plus, yeah 50 made street shyt popular again, but he was more on the "I'm a slick drug dealer, but I'll still kill you" type of style. X was really on that "I was homeless and I'll stab you to death with a tooth brush and feed you to my dogs" style.