To Increase Equity, School Districts Eliminate Honors Classes

Is this the right move?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 9.5%
  • No

    Votes: 76 90.5%

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King

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This is a great move. Smooth brained conservative Coli libertarians would think otherwise tho :mjlol:
 

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When does coli almost unanimously agree on something? It’s rare. But this issue transcends political leanings and class. I’m glad brehs ain’t falling for the okie doke. It’s a bullshyt solution to a very real problem.

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Latino students made up 13% of those in 12th-grade Advanced Placement English, compared with 37% of the student body. Asian students were 34% of the advanced class, compared with 10% of students. Black students represented 14% of AP English, versus 15% of the student body.


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Who are the people pushing for this?
 

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Lemme just note that as a kid who did do both gifted and honors courses throughout my middleschool and highschool career , it think they were benefitial. There were more in depth conversations and studying methods we could cover in a smart classroom that the general population could not keep up with. Furthermore, if we are being honest , these courses had zero class clowns in them so it was easier for us to focus.



For example, in my senior year i recall that the general english Literature class was doing book reports with multiple choice questions on the Eragon and Hunger Games books. :russ:

Meanwhile the honors course was doing 4 page essays on literary difficult and complex books like Chinua Achebe's "things fall apart" and Jane Austen's works. THis was a Huge difference in coursework that would honestly fail 75% of the general population.:ohhh:






I think automatic enrollment in upper division courses and a 3 week trail period of the coursework at the honors level wouldve been more equitable than just bushing the entire honors catalogue.



As a side note, i know the college bound kids had to be a litlle angry cause many colleges look for that honors level coursework when trying to admit freshmen. THis is probably the true reason parents are heated.










from reading the article , i think this was intended to target hispanics. Because in the article , black people were 14% of enrolled and 15% of the general population. The margin of error here is 1% in etither direction so we are actually performing at par.

its the hispanics who had a 15percent difference between enrollment and the general population. And of course the Asians with the above percentage representation too.


It sound like the baseline is trash.


Multi choice for English exams????


Oh yea I see why so many people are stupid as fukk today.
 

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The honors non honors divide for basic subjects like English and Math up to right before calculus is why America is suffering from a stupidity epidemic

These non honors classes are garbage and it shows in the adults we have running around today.
 

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The honors non honors divide for basic subjects like English and Math up to right before calculus is why America is suffering from a stupidity epidemic

These non honors classes are garbage and it shows in the adults we have running around today.
There’s some 30+ AP course offerings bruh, what are you talking about? “English and math” is deceptively broad.
 

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Interesting seeing this kind of elitism on display from Black people. We're in here calling kids glue eaters, talking about how some simply aren't interested in education and even framing the conversation as a smart vs dumb issue, completely ignoring the disparities in qualities of early education that led to these outcomes.

For the record, I think it's a terrible idea to do away with the honors program as a means of making a more equitable system and most people seem to agree, but that's where it ends. The only real concern shown here in this thread is for kids who are already on a trajectory towards success.

Now that we've agreed that removing these programs isn't a solution and some schools have even reversed their decisions on the matter, what can be done to ensure that more Black children are able to compete at a higher level?
 
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