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I went to brampton once. Ever house in the block had indians living there. Tried to go in a store for food and the Sikh was looking at me as of i fell off the face of the earth.

Brampton is little India. Don't like any areas that are dominated by any racial group....and if it aint white...it affects property values.
 

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In addition to Indian people there is a bit of crime and shady people in Brampton. More than what a middle class area should have.


shhhhhh. Don't say nothing.

They moved a bunch of people from Regent there.
 

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The Canadian housing market is getting more shytty by the day, get in while you can

It ain't going to be pretty in 10 years
 

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Y'all can clown me or say what you want...and it may be a little further. but Hamilton is on the Come Up.

one of the fastest growing real estate markets in Canada right now, they are completely changing the core. They got the GO Train and they are going to be putting in an LRT.
If you want to invest and live cheaper than in Toronto and still make and save Cash that place is gonna boom.
 

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Guelph is better


Y'all can clown me or say what you want...and it may be a little further. but Hamilton is on the Come Up.

one of the fastest growing real estate markets in Canada right now, they are completely changing the core. They got the GO Train and they are going to be putting in an LRT.
If you want to invest and live cheaper than in Toronto and still make and save Cash that place is gonna boom.
 

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Guelph is better
Guelph has nothing though.
At least Hamilton HAS stuff. and its proximity to Toronto/Niagara Falls/Buffalo make it a decent spot.
Not gonna lie I haven't been there in a few years but I still have friends there and I check in once in a while but from what I read and what they say now would be the time to jump in to come up

YOu can live in Guelph but if you want to livein a large Urban city and don't want to pay Toronto prices than this is what you got.
at least Hamilton has culture and history...what do these generic cultureless made up cities like Sauga have??
 
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Where I live, I'm surrounded by Indian people, they don' take care of their shyt. The places where that interracial couple used to live looks fukked up, I try to keep my property value up but I highly doubt anybody wants to live next to these sandcacs.

I have a problem with places with too many Indian people over any other race. I've lived in Brampton for a while but NOW it's getting to me. Especially when in Shoppers Drug Mart majority of people hired in places like that are Indian, malls, other drug stores. Banks. Basically places where everybody with minimal customer service exp wants to work.

Maybe because of this.

Shoppers Drug Mart ordered to pay $8,000 in racial profiling case
In a rare decision, Ontario’s Human Rights Tribunal found an employee racially profiled a black woman falsely accused of shoplifting.
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HUMAN RIGHTS LEGAL SUPPORT CENTRE

The Ontario Human Rights Tribunal has ruled that Mary McCarthy, 59, was racially profiled and discriminated against by an employee at a Toronto Shoppers Drug Mart, who accused her without evidence of shoplifting.

By: Alyshah Hasham Staff Reporter, Published on Wed Oct 07 2015
When Mary McCarthy was confronted by a Shoppers Drug Mart employee and her backpack searched on suspicion of shoplifting, she was certain she’d been targeted because she is black.

In a rare ruling four years later, the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario agreed, ordering the store to pay McCarthy $8,000 for the racial profiling and discrimination she experienced.

The employee was “being influenced, consciously or unconsciously, by the stereotype that black people are thieves,” the recent ruling states.

In May 2011, McCarthy popped into the Shoppers near Bloor St. and Spadina Ave. at around 10 p.m. on her way home from her office at a University of Toronto building, where she was working towards her PhD. (Her thesis was on subtle racism in Canada.)

According to the ruling, she opened her backpack to get out some packaging for a specific mouthwash she wanted to purchase. As she was zipping it back up, she was approached by a store employee who, in “an elevated tone,” asked her to open her backpack. McCarthy initially refused and then, telling the employee she had done nothing wrong, put the backpack on the floor. The employee unzipped it, looked inside, and walked away without apologizing.


In an interview from New Brunswick, where McCarthy works as an employment counsellor, she said she felt humiliated and angry to be spoken down to and thought to be a thief, particularly in front of other customers at the store.

“I don’t think an animal would have been treated as cruelly as I was,” McCarthy said.

The adjudicator of the tribunal, Ken Bhattacharjee, acknowledged in the ruling that the store is in a high-traffic area and does have a problem with shoplifting. So it was reasonable for the employee, Ujjaijjini Balachandra, to be suspicious of someone crouching on the floor and zipping up a bag.

However, Balachandra went beyond suspicion to a “strong belief” that McCarthy had put something in her bag — a belief she could not explain the basis for and which was “completely illogical,” given that she did not see McCarthy put anything in her bag, Bhattacharjee wrote.

Balachandra was also caught in a number of lies, according to the ruling. Bhattacharjee found she was rude to McCarthy, did not follow Shoppers Drug Mart protocol in dealing with suspected shoplifting, and tried to evade the allegation of racial profiling by saying she did not notice McCarthy is black.

She even claimed the incident happened after midnight, at closing — prime shoplifting time — rather than when McCarthy’s receipt showed it occurred: 10:29 p.m.

McCarthy said she had wanted to leave the store immediately after the encounter but reminded herself she had every right to be there. She ended up speaking to the pharmacist and buying hydrogen peroxide — the receipt for which ended up being crucial evidence in her case.

“I think (the ruling) is a wakeup call for many people, especially store owners and staff, to adhere to proper protocol when they suspect someone of shoplifting, not to go on the looks of someone,” McCarthy said. “But also, more importantly, if someone like myself feels they have been racially profiled, they should stand up for themselves.”

Only a handful of tribunal cases have resulted in a finding of racial profiling because it is so hard to prove, said Beth Walden, McCarthy’s lawyer from the Human Rights Legal Support Centre.

She says the centre sees many clients who believe they have experienced racial profiling but don’t have the evidence to prove it at the tribunal.



In an emailed statement, a Shoppers Drug Mart spokesperson said the company is “committed to being inclusive, diverse, equitable and accessible in our interactions with each other and with our customers. The actions of this employee described in this case do not reflect the core values of Shoppers Drug Mart.”

The employee, Balachandra, no longer works at the location, according to the statement. The Star could not reach her for comment. The store’s owner did not respond to a request for comment.

“This is a significant decision,” said lawyer Selywn Pieters, who frequently appears before the tribunal and was the applicant in a key racial profiling tribunal case upheld by the Court of Appeal and cited in this decision. “There are very few positive decisions when it comes to racial profiling cases, which has led to a pessimistic view among litigants and some lawyers.”

Still, the stereotypes black people face are insidious and pervasive, he says, and it will take much more than tribunal decisions to change that.

McCarthy agrees. This was far from the first time she has experienced racial profiling or discrimination in Toronto or her home province of New Brunswick, she said, and it was not the last.

“Toronto is wonderful, diverse city, but within it there is still a reliance on stereotypes and discrimination. People need to know those cannot come into the workplace,” she said. “You have to treat everyone equally. This person did not.”





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Where I live, I'm surrounded by Indian people, they don' take care of their shyt. The places where that interracial couple used to live looks fukked up, I try to keep my property value up but I highly doubt anybody wants to live next to these sandcacs.

I have a problem with places with too many Indian people over any other race. I've lived in Brampton for a while but NOW it's getting to me. Especially when in Shoppers Drug Mart majority of people hired in places like that are Indian, malls, other drug stores. Banks. Basically places where everybody with minimal customer service exp wants to work.

Maybe because of this.

Shoppers Drug Mart ordered to pay $8,000 in racial profiling case
In a rare decision, Ontario’s Human Rights Tribunal found an employee racially profiled a black woman falsely accused of shoplifting.
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HUMAN RIGHTS LEGAL SUPPORT CENTRE

The Ontario Human Rights Tribunal has ruled that Mary McCarthy, 59, was racially profiled and discriminated against by an employee at a Toronto Shoppers Drug Mart, who accused her without evidence of shoplifting.

By: Alyshah Hasham Staff Reporter, Published on Wed Oct 07 2015
When Mary McCarthy was confronted by a Shoppers Drug Mart employee and her backpack searched on suspicion of shoplifting, she was certain she’d been targeted because she is black.

In a rare ruling four years later, the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario agreed, ordering the store to pay McCarthy $8,000 for the racial profiling and discrimination she experienced.

The employee was “being influenced, consciously or unconsciously, by the stereotype that black people are thieves,” the recent ruling states.

In May 2011, McCarthy popped into the Shoppers near Bloor St. and Spadina Ave. at around 10 p.m. on her way home from her office at a University of Toronto building, where she was working towards her PhD. (Her thesis was on subtle racism in Canada.)

According to the ruling, she opened her backpack to get out some packaging for a specific mouthwash she wanted to purchase. As she was zipping it back up, she was approached by a store employee who, in “an elevated tone,” asked her to open her backpack. McCarthy initially refused and then, telling the employee she had done nothing wrong, put the backpack on the floor. The employee unzipped it, looked inside, and walked away without apologizing.


In an interview from New Brunswick, where McCarthy works as an employment counsellor, she said she felt humiliated and angry to be spoken down to and thought to be a thief, particularly in front of other customers at the store.

“I don’t think an animal would have been treated as cruelly as I was,” McCarthy said.

The adjudicator of the tribunal, Ken Bhattacharjee, acknowledged in the ruling that the store is in a high-traffic area and does have a problem with shoplifting. So it was reasonable for the employee, Ujjaijjini Balachandra, to be suspicious of someone crouching on the floor and zipping up a bag.

However, Balachandra went beyond suspicion to a “strong belief” that McCarthy had put something in her bag — a belief she could not explain the basis for and which was “completely illogical,” given that she did not see McCarthy put anything in her bag, Bhattacharjee wrote.

Balachandra was also caught in a number of lies, according to the ruling. Bhattacharjee found she was rude to McCarthy, did not follow Shoppers Drug Mart protocol in dealing with suspected shoplifting, and tried to evade the allegation of racial profiling by saying she did not notice McCarthy is black.

She even claimed the incident happened after midnight, at closing — prime shoplifting time — rather than when McCarthy’s receipt showed it occurred: 10:29 p.m.

McCarthy said she had wanted to leave the store immediately after the encounter but reminded herself she had every right to be there. She ended up speaking to the pharmacist and buying hydrogen peroxide — the receipt for which ended up being crucial evidence in her case.

“I think (the ruling) is a wakeup call for many people, especially store owners and staff, to adhere to proper protocol when they suspect someone of shoplifting, not to go on the looks of someone,” McCarthy said. “But also, more importantly, if someone like myself feels they have been racially profiled, they should stand up for themselves.”

Only a handful of tribunal cases have resulted in a finding of racial profiling because it is so hard to prove, said Beth Walden, McCarthy’s lawyer from the Human Rights Legal Support Centre.

She says the centre sees many clients who believe they have experienced racial profiling but don’t have the evidence to prove it at the tribunal.



In an emailed statement, a Shoppers Drug Mart spokesperson said the company is “committed to being inclusive, diverse, equitable and accessible in our interactions with each other and with our customers. The actions of this employee described in this case do not reflect the core values of Shoppers Drug Mart.”

The employee, Balachandra, no longer works at the location, according to the statement. The Star could not reach her for comment. The store’s owner did not respond to a request for comment.

“This is a significant decision,” said lawyer Selywn Pieters, who frequently appears before the tribunal and was the applicant in a key racial profiling tribunal case upheld by the Court of Appeal and cited in this decision. “There are very few positive decisions when it comes to racial profiling cases, which has led to a pessimistic view among litigants and some lawyers.”

Still, the stereotypes black people face are insidious and pervasive, he says, and it will take much more than tribunal decisions to change that.

McCarthy agrees. This was far from the first time she has experienced racial profiling or discrimination in Toronto or her home province of New Brunswick, she said, and it was not the last.

“Toronto is wonderful, diverse city, but within it there is still a reliance on stereotypes and discrimination. People need to know those cannot come into the workplace,” she said. “You have to treat everyone equally. This person did not.”





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This is why i laugh at minority solidarity. It doesn't exist.
 

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Honeslty I've seen more blacks and whites come together against these "new minorities" than anything else.
I agree and that's saying a lot. I have seen Richmond Hill change from a predominantly white community to heavily asian/Russian jew community and it doesnt feel like home like it used to. Other minorities climbing up economically is not going to do squat for blacks if anything they will try to flex on us. Thats why blacks as a collective have better get their ish together before it happens.
 

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Anyone on ripe freehold townhomes being built around the city.
 
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