Trump makes move to fast track Indian Immigration, H-1B and other Visas to displace American tech workers.

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Possibly one of the most well thought out, and written posts about the struggles we have with other black folks and the difficulty faced by black Americans to try and shore our numbers up, unify, and get to a point where we use collective bargaining to improve things.

Ironically if other black people got down with us, it would no doubt improve their situation as well, they just can't see it from the horseblinders they got on.
How would an African "get down with us"?

Why should they at this point any African coming over now is a highly vetted elite in his country.
 

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You should block this in the courts..or you'll end up like Canada in 5 years..Indians breed fast :ufdup:
 

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(I apologize in advance for this long post but i have thought about this topic deeply)



The issue for black people is an inability to align interests. The vast majority of indians in america are first gen or the 2nd gen children with strongly aligned values and beliefs with their home country. They are always bringing allies through immigration who "are on code" (and i hate using the phrase because tariq/jason black coined it) .


And don't get me wrong here, I am a strong proponent of Pan-Africanism. But there was a false assumption in the '90s and '80s by hoteps that just because somebody is black , they also share your values and beliefs. One thing the tariq contingent has correct is that this assumption is false.

For instance....
  • You might invite an Ethiopian only for them to become a proud Republican upon getting citizenship because democrats were part of the fckery during their civil war. And yes, i have met two Ethiopians like this in the real world. This is an obvious conflict of interest with American black people.
  • You may invite sudanese or somali muslims that put more value on their conservative, religious vales than their blackness and will vote accordingly with conservative candidates.

  • You might find a nigerian or rwandan that is used to strongman leaders and who support trump or Desantis purely from a personality lens.

  • You Also have many immigrants from both the Caribbean and Africa who see America as temporary location with their rural homes in jamaica or Kenya as their permanent homes despite American citizenship. Such a group has no incentive to vote in the long term interests of black people in America if this country is viewed as a pitstop.
  • [*]For example i have met naturalized Africans who see no reason to rock the boat on free speech issues because They don't see themselves as part of the American conversation wheras the conversations close to their heart are being held in accra or Limpopo.
    [*]Similarly i have encountered both high earning Caribbeans and high earning Africans who question the merits of their taxes rising to cover repperations that they will not be eligible for themselves

  • You may even import black people that don't identify with blackness at all like coloureds in south Africa or the many subracial groups of Latin America and the Caribbean.

  • And of course you have cooons. Look at foreign born black men voting for trump at 3 times the rate of their domestic counterparts (link)
Not like us? Exploring foreign-born Black men's distinct voting patterns in the 2020 election | Brookings


So because of these issues, immigration by black people is not a panacea to the problems of American descendants of chattel slavery (i really dont want to use the acronyms so pardon the akward wording). You'd have to have a very precise way of screening applicants.


For example, the indians use middle men companies that are extremely discriminatory when selling their people to American corporations. These companies ensure that its only their specific ethnic and caste group within India that get through the h1b lottery instead of any random gujarati or tamil that applies. Perhaps if a domestic black organisation like this prescreened the cultural values of incoming black residents, then they would be gaurunteed alies. After screening for aligned interess, then the h1b paperwork could be forwarded to corporations. .

Ideally , you want more Garveys and ilhan Omars and fewer Joseph Lapado(s) and grooving Gorilla(s).
This actually might be a good business. A black American, gets people from other black countries who align with the idea that black people can make money together and use them as envoys to get black people from their countries to be vetted.
 
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