Trump pulling the troops out and bringing them home

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Despite what you want to believe the US presence in Syria affects how other countries, including our allies, behave in the region.

Once we pull out there will be an obvious shift in dynamics.

It's for a multitude of reasons, but from an extremely simple approach people aren't going to attack places that have a high concentration of US soldiers. :gucci:
Bruh at this point, from my understanding Syria is lost. Assad has regained control of the country. ISIS and rebel groups have been beaten back for the most part. Continuing our presence in Syria isn't going to make the situation better

If I'm wrong I admit there are folks more educated on the matter than a lot of folks including me (@FAH1223 @thatrapsfan and some others) who can tell me I'm wrong. But from my superficial understanding, Assad is back on top.
 

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Haven't read the whole thread, but there's a tradition of honoring promises made by previous presidents. The Kurds and Syrian rebels were the ground forces we used to take on ISIL. The agreement was we'd protect them from Turkey and Assad. This endangers the chances of someone else sticking their necks out for the US.

2nd, we're ceding the region to the Russians and doing a lot(by doing nothing) to squash the notion of a Kurdistan nation forming. That would have been a moderate western ally we could have relied on in the future.

This is a very naive comment, to say the least.

So your idea was to balkanize Syria and to build a Kurd state in front of Turkey? :stopitslime:



The Kurds getting fukked was predictable. Do you forget that it's not the first time? Nobody cares about the Kurds in reality.

And no, the Kurds were not sticking their neck for the US, they were playing their own game, and leaving the Kurds does not change anything for the US. This is not something new. Great powers always acted like that: France did the same with Harkis in Algeria, the US did the same in Vietnam, even worse, and in Irak.

As long as Turkey is a major player in the region, Kurds won't have a state. Arabs and Turks don't want that. And the Kurds do not have something to give that is going to make someone go against Turkey for them.
 
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Bruh at this point, from my understanding Syria is lost. Assad has regained control of the country. ISIS and rebel groups have been beaten back for the most part. Continuing our presence in Syria isn't going to make the situation better

If I'm wrong I admit there are folks more educated on the matter than a lot of folks including me (@FAH1223 @thatrapsfan and some others) who can tell me I'm wrong. But from my superficial understanding, Assad is back on top.
From my understanding, it was never our goal to militarily overthrow Assad. That wasn't a part of the conversation until Trump Tillerson.
 

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So you're saying if the US leave other countries will rush in to fill that void? :jbhmm:

Yes. What void? The US is going to be replaced by another force. Is there a power vacuum when you change a president or when a military force is replaced by another? There won't be any power vacuum.
 

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Yes. What void? The US is going to be replaced by another force. Is there a power vacuum when you change a president or when a military force is replaced by another? There won't be any power vacuum.
There will be a power vacuum in Northern Syria when the US withdraws.

:mjlol:
 

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bruh....OF COURSE WE ARE. The only part of the Syria that US troops occupy is also the part with vast amounts of oil. This is a fight over natural resources, and nothing else.




:mjlol:

What the hell did the Taliban have to do with 9/11? That was clearly another play for natural resources...in Afghanistan's case, it was their vast poppy fields. The US literally uses the poppy to pay China, who are one of the biggest opiod using countries in the world.

Had nothing to do with some ragtag soldiers in the mountains.



We got tricked into war.



I don't give a rats ass about alliances with globalist NATO. NATO is like 85% funded by the US, with American troops as it's backbone. Why would you respect an "alliance" when the other countries put in drops in the bucket compared to the US?



No, I'm anti-interventionist. War should be an absolute last resort; not a power play on natural resources. I wouldn't have been involved in a needless war in the first place, so it can't ascribe that to my beliefs.
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Thread should of ended here, gave James that work:ehh:
 
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