Trump says Somalians unwelcome in USA after big fraud cases: “they come here to bytch, they contribute nothing, they are garbage”— Gov Walz under fire

[Pull Up the Roots]

This isn’t collective punishment. Walz is fighting his political life and you want him to endorse a program riddled with fraud and corruption. He would be savvy to institute pauses and signal that he’s willing to open the books.

Newsom beat back credible recall efforts and his polling has gone up as he has effectively pivoted to the center and pushed back on trump efficiently. This single remark on newsom shows how immature you are.

If I’m Walz, I suspend these programs by sending a bill to the state assembly calling for a temporary pause, audits, reforms and reviews... and send the signal that I’m taking this very seriously and willing to issue immediate political changes to these welfare programs. The Somali community needs to temporarily be told to hold themselves down if they’re really a real community while walz goes through his 2026 primary. Hes already in hot water over this and this community is a complete liability.

It’s time for this community, if it truly exists, to hold each other accountable and to take care of each other temporarily. A message needs to be sent that they’re on time-out but that walz hasn’t forgotten them though…Governing has to take place, not friendly activist hugs and affirmations. Its not like they can vote republican either since Trump put the word out.

Is it unfair? Yeah. So what? Thats what happens when you’re on welfare anyways, if you really deserve it. There would be temp pauses and hold ups for people legitimately on the program so it’s par for the course if theres restrictions on doling out aid etc.

Walz needs to drop the hammer on this completely and show he’s not some fukking push over. He will demonstrate to Trump that he can clean up Minnesota AND that he is worthy of a THIRD term as governor.

Walz can show he will protect the civil rights of all citizens targeted by Trump but that he is not going to be a golf tee for fraud and exploitation from an immigrant community.

Wrong.

Somalian communities dont have a choice. Walz has to make an example out of them, while generally protecting civil rights. he’s looking like food out there.

Plus, Newsom wouldn’t hesitate to do this same pivot either and thread this needle. This is what separates real political leaders from amateurs.

You're literally saying Walz should put an entire community on "time-out," suspend their programs, and make an "example" out of them because of the actions of a few -- that is the definition of collective punishment, you fukking muppet.

No serious person governs like the fantasy you're describing. Serious oversight starts with identifying, investigating, and punishing the individuals committing the fraud, not by collectively punishing an entire community of taxpayers. The best way to do this is by strengthening oversight and compliance requirements, implementing guardrails that prevent this from happening again, and conducting independent, program-wide audits on a scheduled basis. That's accountability. That's how you safeguard a program against fraud. Not this authoritarian fantasy bullshyt your regurgitating. You don't blow up your coalition by throwing an entire community under the bus. Your stupidity is infuriating.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

You think Waltz has nothing to worry about? He's got to look like he's doing something. This shyt happened under his nose for his entire tenure.

Isn't it doing something to actually hold the criminals accountable? Why are we engaging with this from the weaponized right-wing perspective?

I'm going to quote my post from another thread:

If you're actually talking about fraud and not Rufo's garbage terrorism spin, then the only "disaster" here is how easily people adopt GOP talking points. Fraud happens everywhere, in red and blue states alike, and Minnesota is prosecuting it, which is what good oversight looks like. Calling it a political catastrophe is just internalizing right-wing narratives about Democrats needing to be perfect while Republicans can openly fukk shyt up and then get pardoned.

Rick Scott oversaw the largest Medicare fraud in US history and doesn't catch any real flack for it..

Ken Paxton committed fraud and was shielded by Greg Abbot and Texas Republicans and they don't catch any flack for that.

Abbot and Paxton refused to investigate massive Republican-led PPP contract fraud. They did nothing about massive misuse of COVID funds, either.

Trump oversaw massive PPP fraud, and nothing happened to him - no narrative.

How come the argument is never "Republicans have to run a model government or they're giving Democrats ammo"?

It's happened all across red states with Republican mayors, governors, senators, and appointees, but there's never a call to impose these unrealistic standards on them.

Oversight is working here and these fraudsters are being prosecuted. Republicans don't even get pressed to do this, and face no narratives or consequences for it.

How does this make sense? Why shouldn't we push back against this king of weaponization? Explain it.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You're literally saying Walz should put an entire community on "time-out," suspend their programs, and make an "example" out of them because of the actions of a few -- that is the definition of collective punishment, you fukking muppet.

Walz needs to show he’s willing to sacrifice the short term political hit of distancing himself from this accelerating falll out in order to to win a governor’s election in less than 1 year.

Yes. This is precisely what I’m doing.

Walz hitching up to this community in the first place got him burned at the worse time and you want him to cling even more?

No serious person governs like the fantasy you're describing. Serious oversight starts with identifying, investigating, and punishing the individuals committing the fraud, not by collectively punishing an entire community of taxpayers. The best way to do this is by strengthening oversight and compliance requirements, implementing guardrails that prevent this from happening again, and conducting independent, program-wide audits on a scheduled basis. That's accountability. That's how you safeguard a program against fraud. Not this authoritarian fantasy bullshyt your regurgitating. You don't blow up your coalition by throwing an entire community under the bus. Your stupidity is infuriating.

Did you forget that you’re advocating what Walz already tried. That got him dozens of indictments, federal scrutiny, and a community under siege.

We did it your way already. ​

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Isn't it doing something to actually hold the criminals accountable? Why are we engaging with this from the weaponized right-wing perspective?

Serious question:

What do you think happens when you tell people about this “right wing perspective?”​

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Do you think something magical happens? Do they snap out of it? Do they drop to their knees and beg forgiveness? Do they convert to another religion? Do they enter a fugue state and something takes over in their psyche and they stop arguing the point they were making?​

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Why add this in? Do you think people are afraid of having right wing perspectives? Why not just call him an ignorant bigot? Or a fascist? Is he a Nazi? What about a murderer?​

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

No one is gonna call @Pull Up the Roots when Walz loses next November for welfare aid . But he’s gonna sleep tight knowing that “Walz stood with the besieged” and “didn’t abandon people in their time of need” and “stood up to bigotry”

Who they gonna vote for? They literally can’t vote republican this time. Might as well enter time-out and support the guy who brought them to this dance for the last EIGHT years

Punishment isn’t meant to be fun

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Homie... This is the type of shyt that makes people turn on progressive programs.


Oh, they did. CA will never vote for a Republican, so Newsom got nothing to worry about.

Waltz is far more vulnerable.

Mind you, Newsom had to come out against illegals getting more MEDI-CAL access etc. Newsom made these reforms ahead of time too.

Newsom had to fight the state to do this too. He realizes that this shyt is unpopular. He pushed for reform caps and ways to save money.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Isn't it doing something to actually hold the criminals accountable? Why are we engaging with this from the weaponized right-wing perspective?

I'm going to quote my post from another thread:

I don't care about what other people did. This should have been stopped years ago. They were strong armed by weaponized racism accusations and dragged their feet because they didn't want to seem anti Somali.

Mind you, Newsom had to come out against illegals getting more MEDI-CAL access etc. Newsom made these reforms ahead of time too.

Newsom had to fight the state to do this too. He realizes that this shyt is unpopular. He pushed for reform caps and ways to save money.

Newsom is moderating because he wants to run for President. He's gonna get annihilated.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Newsom is moderating because he wants to run for President. He's gonna get annihilated.

no argument from me there. I’m saying that Walz needs to show similar resolve

 

[Tair]

It’s worse than that. When the state government tried to intervene years ago the Somalis filed lawsuits accusing investigators of racism. Its crazy.

watch this full clip:



Walz is easily the nicest governor in the state. And this community completely embarrassed him.

Walz may be done in Minnesota.

Somalis definitely getting the from everyone too

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Walz needs to show he’s willing to sacrifice the short term political hit of distancing himself from this accelerating falll out in order to to win a governor’s election in less than 1 year.

Yes. This is precisely what I’m doing.


Did you forget that you’re advocating what Walz already tried. That got him dozens of indictments, federal scrutiny, and a community under siege.

We did it your way already.

No, we didn't "do it my way." What happened under Walz was the exact opposite of what I'm describing.

What happened was a massive fraud ring -- spearheaded by Aimee Bock* -- went undetected for too long, then blew up all at once.

Saying "we tried that already" is just rewriting history. If any of the things I explained were happening, this wouldn't have even reached the stage we're at.

Also, "sacrificing a community to look tough (collective punishment, which you claimed you weren't advocating)" is not political courage, it's plain bad policy on top of being political suicide. You don't collectively punish taxpayers to score optics points. You punish the criminals. You fix the oversight failures. You strengthen the system so it can't happen again. You have zero understanding of good governance. You only have empty fake tough guy narratives. You have a child's mentality.

* Aimee Bock told Faribault nonprofit to fudge numbers, owner says

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

No, we didn't "do it my way." What happened under Walz was the exact opposite of what I'm describing.

What happened was a massive fraud ring -- spearheaded by Aimee Bock* -- went undetected for too long, then blew up all at once.

Saying "we tried that already" is just rewriting history. If any of the things I explained were happening, this wouldn't have even reached the stage we're at.

Also, "sacrificing a community to look tough (collective punishment, which you claimed you weren't advocating)" is not political courage, it's plain bad policy on top of being political suicide. You don't collectively punish taxpayers to score optics points. You punish the criminals. You fix the oversight failures. You strengthen the system so it can't happen again. You have zero understanding of good governance. You only have empty fake tough guy narratives. You have a child's mentality.

* Aimee Bock told Faribault nonprofit to fudge numbers, owner says

Walz has been governor for 8 years. Who is he gonna blame?

You’re right, why change anything? This is what you want, right?

 

[jilla82]

Cali lost $25 billion to fraud. Fraudulent non-profits stole billions while "fighting homelessness".

a lot non profits are a big hustle.

I worked for a business that served them and some of the shyt is insane.
Its basically a way to funnel tax money to certain people.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Walz may be done in Minnesota.

Somalis definitely getting the from everyone too

He's done out here. He might win reelection for gov. Might. But nationally he's cooked

If I’m saying it, then what are independents and republicans saying?​

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Mind you, Walz is running for an unprecedented third term ( no term limits in MN)…all cause he wants to take another shot in 2028...​

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Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz will run for a third term in 2026​

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https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/16/tim-walz-reelection-minnesota-00565640

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The state legislature is already narrowly split​

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…now he’s got one of the largest frauds AND one of the most unpopular immigrant communities in the USA as an anchor on his neck.​

Its BAD. ​

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

I don't care about what other people did. This should have been stopped years ago. They were strong armed by weaponized racism accusations and dragged their feet because they didn't want to seem anti Somali.

Newsom is moderating because he wants to run for President. He's gonna get annihilated.

I agree that it should have been caught earlier. Nobody's arguing that. But claiming the entire state government was strong-armed by racism accusations? That's just a vibes-based narrative you tell yourself to avoid the more boring reality that bureaucratic oversight systems are slow and often under-resourced everywhere, in red and blue states alike.

I'm sorry, but I just can't buy the idea that this one case froze the whole state.

And even if we accept your premise for the sake of argument, Minnesota still did investigate, prosecute, indict, and shut the fraud down. Isn't that actual accountability?

You can criticize the time it took for this to happen, and I will agree with you, but turning it into a Fox News-style morality tale? That's just too much for me to accept. This framing implies that Democrats uniquely fail while Republicans are never held to any standard.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I agree that it should have been caught earlier. Nobody's arguing that. But claiming the entire state government was strong-armed by racism accusations? That's just a vibes-based narrative you tell yourself to avoid the more boring reality that bureaucratic oversight systems are slow and often under-resourced everywhere, in red and blue states alike.

Watch the last 2 minutes: