Trump says Somalians unwelcome in USA after big fraud cases: “they come here to bytch, they contribute nothing, they are garbage”— Gov Walz under fire

[Adeptus Astartes]

I agree that it should have been caught earlier. Nobody's arguing that. But claiming the entire state government was strong-armed by racism accusations? That's just a vibes-based narrative you tell yourself to avoid the more boring reality that bureaucratic oversight systems are slow and often under-resourced everywhere, in red and blue states alike.

The government admitted the accusations and lawsuits hampered the investigation. There are allegations that hundreds of state employees thought the Somalis were suspicious, but their concerns were downplayed due to concerns of offending the community.

And "vibes" and "narratives" decide elections. People don't give a fukk about minutia. They see an alien community stealing their money, they want that community held to account. It is what it is.

 

[Anhur]

Being Somali and reading through this thread is insane. It really just exposes how half of the coli are either idiots or cacs.


Trump literally called an entire community “garbage” and said they should get out of America. That’s blatantly racist language and shouldn’t be tolerated.

1. I’m also seeing a lot of people claiming Somalis “deserve this” for supposedly voting for Trump. Meanwhile, 77-80+% of Somalis voted for Kamala, and about 75–78% of Black American males did too. So does that mean if Trump says or does horrible things to Black Americans, they “deserve it” as well?

Don't mention the lower voter turnout because that happened among all Democratic constituents.
2. I saw people calling Somalis scammers, drug dealers, thieves, crashouts, etc. so we deserve this.
This is exactly what cacs say about Black Americans. If you can't see the irony, I can't help you.

Then again, some of you are probably cacs.

And if anyone is dumb enough to actually believe that dumbass orangutan actually cares about scammers, he just pardoned a bunch of them and started his presidency by scamming his own base through crypto.
He's also trying his best to get heat off the files and being outed as a homosexual.

Last thing, Nap is wrong 95% of the time. If that lndian is on your side, you should be embarrassed.

 

[jilla82]

Being Somali and reading through this thread is insane. It really just exposes how half of the coli are either idiots or cacs.


Trump literally called an entire community “garbage” and said they should get out of America. That’s blatantly racist language and shouldn’t be tolerated.

1. I’m also seeing a lot of people claiming Somalis “deserve this” for supposedly voting for Trump. Meanwhile, 77-80+% of Somalis voted for Kamala, and about 75–78% of Black American males did too. So does that mean if Trump says or does horrible things to Black Americans, they “deserve it” as well?

Don't mention the lower voter turnout because that happened among all Democratic constituents.
2. I saw people calling Somalis scammers, drug dealers, thieves, crashouts, etc. so we deserve this.
This is exactly what cacs say about Black Americans. If you can't see the irony, I can't help you.

Then again, some of you are probably cacs.

And if anyone is dumb enough to actually believe that dumbass orangutan actually cares about scammers, he just pardoned a bunch of them and started his presidency by scamming his own base through crypto.
He's also trying his best to get heat off the files and being outed as a homosexual.

Last thing, Nap is wrong 95% of the time. If that lndian is on your side, you should be embarrassed.

you did everything but address the scamming

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

2. I saw people calling Somalis scammers, drug dealers, thieves, crashouts, etc. so we deserve this.

All I’m saying is I want for people who are supposed to be allies to stop making the enemy's job’s easier.

Somalians put Governor Walz political future at risk and a republican governor won’t spare them.

Don’t make me defend the indefensible.

Trump did something extremely vile.

Somalian fraudsters are making his job easier.

And if anyone is dumb enough to actually believe that dumbass orangutan actually cares about scammers, he just pardoned a bunch of them and started his presidency by scamming his own base through crypto.

If you know the rules are different, then why act surprised? None of this should be unpredictable or shocking to you. You should have expected differential treatment.

Accordingly, you should have been prepared for this. Right?

Last thing, Nap is wrong 95% of the time. If that lndian is on your side, you should be embarrassed.

I’m black. And you’re not helping.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

I've interacted with Somalis a lot in Minnesota and Seattle over the hears. Other than being very bad drivers, they are very kind, respectful and humble people despite growing up in one of the poorest countries in the world.

They are very devout Muslims and I've never met a Christian Somali. Only the men work, the woman almost always stays home

Wait till you come across UK Somalis, a very different breed of ppl

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

you did everything but address the scamming

Right.

I didn’t even mention that their mayoral candidate clearly lost the election a month doing stuff like this:



Did they think importing tribal politics was gonna work politically?





These guys can not read the room

They got played and they still dont get it



@Anhur

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[BucciMane]

The government admitted the accusations and lawsuits hampered the investigation. There are allegations that hundreds of state employees thought the Somalis were suspicious, but their concerns were downplayed due to concerns of offending the community.

And "vibes" and "narratives" decide elections. People don't give a fukk about minutia. They see an alien community stealing their money, they want that community held to account. It is what it is.

@Pull Up the Roots is by every objective measure, a top five WOAT poster that just thinks emotionally, and is devoid of using facts or logic. He clearly supports this fraud, which will only further hurt the communities money/aid can be going too.

Defending Tim Walz and the failure he is, is nothing short of embarrassing.

 

[BucciMane]

You can think what Trump said is disgusting while also acknowledging the fraud and the absolute enabler/embarrassment Tim Walz is. They are not mutually exclusive.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You can think what Trump said is disgusting while also acknowledging the fraud and the absolute enabler/embarrassment Tim Walz is. They are not mutually exclusive.

I’m a partisan democrat. I want democrats to be examples of good governance and trusted leadership.

In the Trump era, you can’t afford these sorts of slip-ups and errors. This is a slow pitch over the plate for Trump and popular opinion is against fraud especially for welfare for an already unpopular demographic. It’s not fair, but it is what it is. Read the room and win the argument on solid ground.

Walz is in deep shyt and he knows it.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Being Somali and reading through this thread is insane. It really just exposes how half of the coli are either idiots or cacs.

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56th Defendant Pleads Guilty in Feeding Our Future Fraud Scheme

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[Fukwatutalkinwatisaylaw]

Take the men leave the women only if they fine...big forehead ugly ones can leave with the men. The day that ugly orange fukk dies though I'm getting a lawn chair and some champagne going to a busy intersection and popping bottles all day. If u turn up with me at the light you'll get a free shot. Parties in the street world wide

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

The government admitted the accusations and lawsuits hampered the investigation. There are allegations that hundreds of state employees thought the Somalis were suspicious, but their concerns were downplayed due to concerns of offending the community.

And "vibes" and "narratives" decide elections. People don't give a fukk about minutia. They see an alien community stealing their money, they want that community held to account. It is what it is.

Even if we take your point about "vibes deciding elections," that's exactly why it's important not to casually reinforce racialized narratives.

Fraud prosecutions are accountability. Broad-brush narratives about whole communities are scapegoating.

It's like y'all believe Democrats should govern around racist voter perceptions instead of challenging them. I don't agree with that at all. Minnesota Democrats don't agree with it either, seeing as how they are openly challenging them. I mean, if Walz prosecuted the fraudsters, fixed the oversight gaps, and strengthened monitoring going forward, then he actually did demonstrate executive capacity. And isn't that what we want leaders to do?

Further, if you're going to claim the investigation was hindered because people were too afraid of offending Somalis, you need to show real evidence, not just speculation. Minnesota's Somali community has been heavily surveilled for years, so the idea that officials were suddenly paralyzed by fear of being called racist requires more proof than anecdotal hearsay.

Fraud happened, and the fraud was prosecuted. It shouldn't have taken as long as it did, but I'd rather see it finally shut down than pretend the timing matters more than the fact that it was stopped.

Is that not enough accountability? Does an entire community need to be punished to make amends?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Even if we take your point about "vibes deciding elections," that's exactly why it's important not to casually reinforce racialized narratives.

Fraud prosecutions are accountability. Broad-brush narratives about whole communities are scapegoating.

It's like y'all believe Democrats should govern around racist voter perceptions instead of challenging them. I don't agree with that at all. Minnesota Democrats don't agree with it either, seeing as how they are openly challenging them. I mean, if Walz prosecuted the fraudsters, fixed the oversight gaps, and strengthened monitoring going forward, then he actually did demonstrate executive capacity. And isn't that what we want leaders to do?

Walz is not doing nearly enough publicly and forcefully to signal his distance from this scandal that is immutably linked to his entire tenure as governor.

Further, if you're going to claim the investigation was hindered because people were too afraid of offending Somalis, you need to show real evidence, not just speculation. Minnesota's Somali community has been heavily surveilled for years, so the idea that officials were suddenly paralyzed by fear of being called racist requires more proof than anecdotal hearsay.

Fraud happened, and the fraud was prosecuted. It shouldn't have taken as long as it did, but I'd rather see it finally shut down than pretend the timing matters more than the fact that it was stopped.

Is that not enough accountability? Does an entire community need to be punished to make amends?

There have been investigations done by local media into fraud that were stalled for at least a decade:

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Yall think shyt is sweet, right? @Pull Up the Roots

Hey, either you want Walz or you want sharks who see him as food taking him out. Good luck for “welfare” if a republican wins in Minnesota.

Again, I ask you: Is this what you want?