TRUMP TO END DACA VERY SOON; Wants Congress to replace the policy by March 2018

[DEAD7]

1. Fool's errand. Not sure if you remember but a Civil War was fought over the slavery question. There is no viable path to getting 80 percent (let's say you were able to get a few liberal whites to support reparations) of the country to be OK with paying reparations.

2. OK. But see #1

3. It's not about fighting each other's fights. If you have shared interests, you sometimes have to work with/fight alongside people you don't even necessarily like. It's not about having a commitment to them - you really shouldn't have such a simplified view of politics. Purity = zero results.

4. Seems like all you're offering are platitudes. "Put our efforts towards changing that...fighting this permanent underclass status!" It all sounds great but explain to me how this actually happens. Form a new party? Mass demonstrations? Civil War?

A lot depends on the form reparations would take, a cash transfer probably isnt gonna happen. But I dont think thats what we want anyway, I think we want an elevated status within society, which is the answer to #4
We need to demand redress.


The trap we always fall into(with Democrats), is extending our self to others(illegal immigrants in this case) without receiving anything meaningful in return. This needs to stop.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

"Libertarians" who want powerful states to put walls up to impede the free will of individuals?

"Libertarians" who want the government to interfere with the natural supply and demand of labor?

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

I'll sacrifice a few low wage low skill jobs to weaken the political power of white conservatives in this country.



I never want to go back to a time where whites are 90% of this country.

I've seen what that means.

You're coming around to my position on letting illegals vote.

 

[DEAD7]

"Libertarians" who want powerful states to put walls up to impede the free will of individuals?

"Libertarians" who want the government to interfere with the natural supply and demand of labor?

Im gonna assume you aren't trolling and respond... Libertarians are for open borders absent an aggressive nanny state and over regulated economy.
...and sadly there is little thats natural about the supply and demand of our economy.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Firstly my focus is African Americans in America...
...and on the issue of illegal immigration, yes, I'm Trumpset with a capital "T".
Secondly, this is specifically about illegal immigrants, dreamers to be even more specific, the overwhelming majority of which are Mexican.






All that aside, what are you trying to say exactly? That we should lend a hand in our own oppression?...

Immigration def needs reform and needs to change. I don't see why people that are in daca should be deported if they are thriving members of society and pay taxes they may be contributing to the American economy than some of these bum CaCs.

I'm not for oppressing anyone homie I want equality for blacks Hispanics etc whether it's in society or in the workplace. I don't want white people to be able to have a leg up over everyone that is an American citizen breh.

 

[DEAD7]

You're coming around to my position on letting illegals vote.

Can't really be shocked that Hogan a white bodybuilder from Florida wants to see blacks further marginalized.

 

[DEAD7]

Immigration def needs reform and needs to change. I don't see why people that are in daca should be deported if they are thriving members of society and pay taxes they may be contributing to the American economy than some of these bum CaCs.

I'm not for oppressing anyone homie I want equality for blacks Hispanics etc whether it's in society or in the workplace. I don't want white people to be able to have a leg up over everyone that is an American citizen breh.

Again, because they are hurting African American economic opportunities and depressing wages.
Just say f*ck nikkas, wave your Mexican flag and keep it moving.
You obviously are not prioritizing the plight of African Americans over these dreamers... we will just have to agree to disagree.

 

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

A lot depends on the form reparations would take, a cash transfer probably isnt gonna happen. But I dont think thats what we want anyway, I think we want an elevated status within society, which is the answer to #4
We need to demand redress.


The trap we always fall into(with Democrats), is extending our self to others(illegal immigrants in this case) without receiving anything meaningful in return. This needs to stop.

I actually partially agree with you on the last paragraph. We don't leverage our power effectively.

But it's not that black people and latinos should demand that each will be on the front lines of their respective struggles. Sometimes you create a coalition because you have mutual enemies.

 

[DEAD7]

I actually partially agree with you on the last paragraph. We don't leverage our power effectively.

But it's not that black people and latinos should demand that each will be on the front lines of their respective struggles. Sometimes you create a coalition because you have mutual enemies.

We are economically hurt by this coalition... not sure why blacks should be asked to pay more than we already have.

 

[Hrcules]

After all this time we still have people for illegal immigrants

Dont give that they are children bullshyt, them gonna grow up.

I got friends who cant cross the border and are working their asses to pay for their visas or their green cards, to go and work. Everyone who does it by the book without breaking the law HATE all those lazy criminals who just jump over.

 

[Robbie3000]

I actually partially agree with you on the last paragraph. We don't leverage our power effectively.

But it's not that black people and latinos should demand that each will be on the front lines of their respective struggles. Sometimes you create a coalition because you have mutual enemies.

Coalitions should be mutually beneficial. The black community should form a coalition with anyone shares our interests. As I have pointed out, white liberals and other minorities have common interests. I believe these interests to be in the best interest of the country.

The political opposition, at the detriment of the nation, has always been white conservatism.

They have always been the problem. Whether it was the struggle for civil rights, labor laws, social security, Medicare, war, women rights, etc.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Again, because they are hurting African American economic opportunities and depressing wages.
Just say f*ck nikkas, wave your Mexican flag and keep it moving.
You obviously are not prioritizing the plight of African Americans over these dreamers... we will just have to agree to disagree.

Na I ain't messican

African Americans opened up the door for every other minority to be successful in the US. Instead of directing your argument at legal immigrants you should be pissed off at CaCs making it difficult for everyone else that ain't them to get ahead.

 

[DEAD7]

I believe these interests to be in the best interest of the country.

...and those who disagree, consider you and those who agree with you to be the biggest problem and impediment to progress.
Welcome to American politics.

 

[DEAD7]

Na I ain't messican

African Americans opened up the door for every other minority to be successful in the US. Instead of directing your argument at legal immigrants you should be pissed off at CaCs making it difficult for everyone else that ain't them to get ahead.

I'm more pissed at them for being more accepting of Immigrants(legal and illegal) than they are of blacks.
We opened the door and have been trampled and left at the bottom.
Its time to focus solely on ourselves and our interest.
We've takin more than enough losses.

 

[LoStranger]

Na I ain't messican

African Americans opened up the door for every other minority to be successful in the US. Instead of directing your argument at legal immigrants you should be pissed off at CaCs making it difficult for everyone else that ain't them to get ahead.

You mean the same ones that call us mayates and akatas....please. I hope this thing gets passed so I can laugh at all the immigrant b*stards who bashed African Americans....

@Black Barbie Girl get in here and celebrate with me.....