Trump vs Biden: MAGA vs BUILD BACK BETTER: OFFICIAL FINAL DEBATE THREAD

CrimsonTider

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Okay. You’re playing stupid. Stop quoting me. If you genuinely don’t know, it’s been explained countless times. I recommend YouTube, various articles, and multiple threads here on TheColi. What you decide to use to inform yourself is up to you.
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I’m not wasting my time with you though. I don’t engage with morons. You’ve definitely earned that “WOAT” banner.
So you want politicians to give you something by not voting?

can you show me where something like this has ever worked?
 

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Okay. You’re playing stupid. Stop quoting me. If you genuinely don’t know, it’s been explained countless times. I recommend YouTube, various articles, and multiple threads here on TheColi. What you decide to use to inform yourself is up to you.
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I’m not wasting my time with you though. I don’t engage with morons. You’ve definitely earned that “WOAT” banner.
Show me the actual situations were this worked and not change done by actual organization activism mobilization and voting .
 

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I'm in NYC, out here, damn near every fast food chain I walk in is filled w/ Latins(I'm guessing Dominican) working there.

The only chain that seems to hire us here are Chick Fil A and Shake Shack

Props to Chick-fil-A for not allowing the practice of White-Hispanic manager that only hire White-Hispanic workers.

Which is labor discrimination. But they are allowed to get away with it.

Democrats has lost their way of being the Party of Labor.
 

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"unlimited"?

also I find it hard to wade through intellectual tripe..

why does?
  • Biden plans on exempting from any immigration cap recent graduates of PhD programs in STEM fields in the United States, and giving green cards to all foreign graduates of any U.S. doctoral program with their degrees, despite the fact that there is no proof of a shortage in STEM workers, and the fact that these proposals would put those new immigrants in direct competition with American graduates seeking increasingly limited job opportunities.
result in these specific points?
  • This proposal would most significantly disadvantage African Americans, Hispanics, and women, who are largely underrepresented in most STEM fields.
and I am asking a very specific question.
I'm guessing because of the extremely low representation of these groups in STEM fields already. These policies will ensure these minority groups representation stays in the single digits. Because of how the visa lottery system is rigged your guaranteed to get immigrants from two specific nationalities for the majority of these visas.
 

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You and @Captain_Crunch should go make a Trump Appreciation thread cause you got zero smoke for a candidate’ with no actual policies or plans

trump loves H2B
A Vox analysis of hiring records for seasonal workers at three Trump properties in New York and Florida revealed that only one out of 144 jobs went to a US worker from 2016 to the end of 2017. Foreign guest workers with H-2B visas got the rest.

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Javier Zarracina/Vox
The H-2B visa program allows seasonal, non-agricultural employers — like hotels and ski resorts — to hire foreign workers when they can’t find American ones. The Trump administration temporarily expanded this guest-worker program in 2017 while restricting other avenues of legal immigration, including the H-1B program for high-skilled workers.

The Trump Organization is exactly the kind of company that relies on the H-2B visa program for low-skilled workers.
I heard he might have limited the H2B visa program just like the rest during the pandemic. While Biden is talking about lifting the sanctions on all of them in the middle of a pandemic. What kind of sense does that make with so many people out of work.

Democrats just happen to be wrong on this issue because they only care about increasing a specific voting block. They used to be dead set against these programs when they backed workers and labor movements. But their usually right on healthcare and entitlements when they aren't pandering to Big Business.
 

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I heard he might have limited the H2B visa program just like the rest during the pandemic. While Biden is talking about lifting the sanctions on all of them in the middle of a pandemic. What kind of sense does that make with so many people out of work.

Democrats just happen to be wrong on this issue because they only care about increasing a specific voting block. They used to be dead set against these programs when they backed workers and labor movements. But their usually right on healthcare and entitlements when they aren't pandering to Big Business.
You heard ?:mjlol: And also Biden has a plan to make well paying jobs . Trump has shyt
 

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I'm in NYC, out here, damn near every fast food chain I walk in is filled w/ Latins(I'm guessing Dominican) working there.

The only chain that seems to hire us here are Chick Fil A and Shake Shack
Why as a black man in NYC at that would you even worry about working in a fast food place ?
 

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so bidens gone 2-0 in these debates
kamala went 1-0
and they were already up by like 21 before any of these
the next week you can be sure they're gonna be dragging out this hunter biden nonsense and making all kinds of wild accusations. thats gonna be their hail mary to change this race

Head of the FBI is more interested in dropping Iran/Russian bombshells about the tainted elections. That’s why Trump said he’s going to fire him lol
 

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You heard ?:mjlol: And also Biden has a plan to make well paying jobs . Trump has shyt
Why because he says so? What specific legislation has he successfully pushed to help the middle class in 47 years in Government. Surely there has to be some major accomplishment besides the 94 crime bill and causing the student debt crisis.

Go to sleep shill.
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Show me the actual situations were this worked and not change done by actual organization activism mobilization and voting .

I’m not against voting. I’m against loyally supporting entities for 5+ decades with nothing significant to show for it.

Whether it’s worked in the past or not is irrelevant. I’m sure that people once said “We’ll never have a Black President and those Black Folks will always be slaves”. Look at us now.

I guess we just keep on voting with nothing of significance in return, all while everyone else demands things for their support. How’s that working out for us? When do we sit back and realize that we’re being played every four years? Why are you opposed to trying a different strategy? Once they truly propose AND produce things of significance, then we support them wholeheartedly.

They’ve essentially already done this, but Democrats could literally say “fukk you negroes. We never did shyt for you, so don’t expect anything now. Shut the fukk up and vote for us like you always have!”

Then people like you will say...

“They don’t really mean it. We still gotta vote y’all! One day it’s gonna get better! At least they even acknowledged and mentioned us. That’s progress!”


This is the literal term of “insanity”.
 

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Exactly. These clowns worried about black male voters yet 80 percent who vote are gonna vote democratic.

They need to focus on these white men, asian men, latin men and white women voting for trump.
80% of black men sounds good.

But when there are 40% less black men voting, that’s an issue.

That’s what happened in 2016 and that’s why they’re trying to get us to vote.
 
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