Tupac would’ve fizzled out in 2003 if he didn’t get clapped

[kingofnyc]

You are absolutely right about 95. Surprising

yes , he’s right … his 1st plat plaque came in April 1995

 

[spliz]

Well, so was MOP. What that mean? What made Pac different is he WASNT just a thug or street ngga. With all due respect to DMX, they were NOT the same. DMX was not an intellectual. His ceiling was nowhere near Pac. Yet DMX went onto become a movie star in his sleep. That tells you al you need to know



Your bias and anti-Pac agenda is showing. Makaveli to this day doesn’t sound anything like normal rap. Beat wise and topic wise. You can’t compare white mans world to anything. The closest is Scarface. And now go look up an interview of Scarface talking about Pac. He was on his own tier

I say all that to say, Pac and Biggie (or DMX, or jay z) were shooting at different baskets. There is nothing they could have done to stop his shine bc they could not in a million years be him. Just like jay z becoming a star was on a completely parrallel track of Will smith becoming a star. Pac was that much different from them.

This nikka isn't bias he's just a professional contrarian. On some legit narcissistic shyt. shyt comes off as attention seeking at this point.

 

[spliz]

how exactly did X lapped Ma$e ?

Are u kidding? Lol

 

[Chip Skylark]

how exactly did X lapped Ma$e ?

More number 1 albums, more record sales, more hit records

 

[kingofnyc]

Are u kidding? Lol

More number 1 albums, more record sales, more hit records

in totality …. yes …. the only reason because mase left the industry

but if you compare apples to apples,

both of their debut albums dropped months apart in the same time , same era and mase was more successful.

It is what it is.

 

[NormanConnors]

how exactly did X lapped Ma$e ?

 

[kingofnyc]

i just explained it

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

jay z & dmx woulda made him irrelevant by 1998

X & Jay were older and started in the rap game before Tupac.Jay & X benefitted the most from Pac & Big being knocked off imo.They slid right into those slots.

 

[NormanConnors]

i just explained it

Hmm Mase has a sense of humor to do some stuff, but I don't think he has the charisma/or range that Pac or X had

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

In one of his last interviews, Pac spoke about only dropping an album once every 5 yrs.I think he would've focused more on social activism & acting.Rap wasn't his first calling.Maybe like 3rd on his list.When did Pac ever take rap serious? He basically just did a speed run through that shyt like it was too easy for him.There was never yrs of developing concepts and trying to find the right sound.He'd hash that shyt out in a month.Maybe a week.He was basically yawning() on his way to making arguably the most timeless rap music ever created.Some of y'all not gone like that one

 

[FTBS]

Expecting a rapper in that time to remain relevant for another 7 years is a pretty tall ask. At that point only LL had done it and he wasnt even rapping full time anymore. Beyond that a huge part of his appeal at the time was the crashout. That would only last so long. Of course Pac had the chops to pivot but would folks pivot with him. And the often overlooked issue was that he had an unresolved case. He may very well had been in prison in 03.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Tried to Ignore List OP, but the board said my list reached the forum limit

At that point you might as well leave

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[Westbama Heartthrob]

Nah, Pac wouldn’t have fizzled. Early 2000s was tailor-made for him: Post-9/11, Bush era politics, media corruption, police brutality, all that. Too much ammo to fade out. That was when rap got political again and production went soulful. Pac would’ve thrived in that environment.

This. If he gotta hold of Kanye or dilla, he'd have been on top of the game

I can only imagine

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

in totality …. yes …. the only reason because mase left the industry

but if you compare apples to apples,

both of their debut albums dropped months apart in the same time , same era and mase was more successful.

It is what it is.

How was mase more successful when x dropped two multi plat albums in one year

 

[NormanConnors]

Expecting a rapper in that time to remain relevant for another 7 years is a pretty tall ask. At that point only LL had done it and he wasnt even rapping full time anymore. Beyond that a huge part of his appeal at the time was the crashout. That would only last so long. Of course Pac had the chops to pivot but would folks pivot with him. And the often overlooked issue was that he had an unresolved case. He may very well had been in prison in 03.

As @Wacky D mentioned Pac was just really heating up, the entire climate of Rap would have been different had he lived.