Twitter argument : If a Husband and Wife both make 80k/year who pays the bills ?

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Most a woman can get is half not all. And that's if you don't have a prenup. With a prenup she only gets half of what you make during the marriage. So the longer the marriage, the more she gets.

People typically reveal themselves in time and I'm pretty good at reading people. Thus there's little chance I get fleeced. What I give a woman is what I wanted to give her. It ain't because I was played.

Spouses can get more than half. Alimony is pre-taxed in most states. The amount of alimony you pay, in most of those states, is based on your gross, not your net. As of the new tax law, alimony is no longer tax-deductible. If you're going to marry, marry someone with the same amount of income as you. Equal incomes = no alimony.

There are plenty of spousal support awards where the payee is left with anywhere from 40% to as low as 30% of their income per month.

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My cousin practices family law e.g. divorces. I just showed her your post. She literally laughed out loud. They're using social media posts in divorce cases nowadays to get bigger bags for their clients.
 
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That’s a $160k household. Pool the net amount, take out for individual spending and pay bills, save, invest or whatever with the rest.
How selfish does one have to be to live like an $80k household with their spouse, so they can stack their $80k income on the side to use how they see fit?
 

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Anyone can find any article on the net to validate their agenda though.

Anyways this whole thread makes me so happy to be single.

I've gotten to the stage where when I hear a woman talk about what a man should be doing I'm immediately irritated and turned off.
Anybody can spout nonsense without anything to back it up either. I have personal experiences with this shyt, advice from old ass chicks who been thru this shyt, and studies for years been validating what I’ve seen with my own eyes. Can’t nobody piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining on some shyt I’ve seen and experienced myself.

I don’t expect dudes to understand any of this but it doesn’t make it any less true.

I don’t live in filthy conditions and you go to my spot and it’s immaculate at any given time. That takes work and that’s just for me. Adding someone else who is unwilling to pull their weight around the house or feels entitled to a live-in maid when ur both working and contributing financially is a no-go for me. Then adding a kid on top of that...a lot of ya’ll got unrealistic expectations given the current social circumstances. Nothing personal.
 

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Anybody can spout nonsense without anything to back it up either. I have personal experiences with this shyt, advice from old ass chicks who been thru this shyt, and studies for years been validating what I’ve seen with my own eyes. Can’t nobody piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining on some shyt I’ve seen and experienced myself.

I don’t expect dudes to understand any of this but it doesn’t make it any less true.

I don’t live in filthy conditions and you go to my spot and it’s immaculate at any given time. That takes work and that’s just for me. Adding someone else who is unwilling to pull their weight around the house or feels entitled to a live-in maid when ur both working and contributing financially is a no-go for me. Then adding a kid on top of that...a lot of ya’ll got unrealistic expectations given the current social circumstances. Nothing personal.

So...how do you expect the bills to be split?
 

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So...how do you expect the bills to be split?
Depends. If we splitting household chores equally then we both pay bills. If I’m working and doing most of the household work, he pays most of the bills. If I’m a stay at home mom he pays the bills but I do everything else. And I’m not talking about being trifling like some of the hoes ya’ll be describing. I mean everything.

In my own parents dynamic I’ve seen all three scenarios play out. My father worked and my mom did everything at home until we were like 12. She preferred that.
But my dad got laid off and spent two years getting back on his feet. My mom went to work while he went to school and took care of us. But even so, he wasn’t lazy or trifling on some “dats women’s work type bullshyt”. He cooked and cleaned and made sure shyt worked at home when my mother worked.

To her credit she wasn’t a piece of shyt and didn’t try and shame him for losing his job in a racist ass economy. She just shrugged her shoulders and got tapped in.

By the time he got back on his feet and started his own construction company, we were teenagers and everybody worked in my family and everybody pitched in around the house. Yet another reason why I love my parents, b/c instead of some dumb ass “u submit” shyt, they were smart, loving and flexible enough to work with each other instead of playing psychological warfare to use one another like some of the shyt I hear on this site about relationships.

It’s hard to accept or respect a lot of the bullshyt I hear damaged, dysfunctional ass people try to pitch about marriage to me when my own parents been married 44+ years and nobody on my father or mother’s side have ever been divorced. All 44+ marriages. I honestly don’t even believe in divorce b/c two reasonable people who love each other can work it out.

But with these cats out to control and use people instead of building together I get why a lot of people pumping breaks on the institution.
 

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None of you are real men.

A real man takes pride in providing for his woman. I would feel emasculated as a man if my woman had to pay for anything.

My wife's only duty will be to maintain her looks, cook, clean, raise children, and cater to my every desire. My duty is to be the breadwinner and protector.

I believe in traditional gender roles.
It's 2020 not 1920 breh.

Woman are no longer held to be 2nd class citizens and can now make more than men.

What woman wants to stay home and wash yo drawls, when she can have what you strive to attain and more.

Not to mention what will she have to fall back on as a traditional wife if divorce comes into the picture¿
 

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Depends. If we splitting household chores equally then we both pay bills. If I’m working and doing most of the household work, he pays most of the bills. If I’m a stay at home mom he pays the bills but I do everything else. And I’m not talking about being trifling like some of the hoes ya’ll be describing. I mean everything.


But with these cats out to control and use people instead of building together I get why a lot of people pumping breaks on the institution.

I meant to specify how things should be split in the scenario of both partners making $80k.

Any woman with an $80k income prior to marriage should never entertain the idea of being a stay at home mom. In my case the moment a woman mentions wanting to be a stay at home mom she is automatically not wife material.

And housework and cooking should not really be a thing with grown-ass people...if you were cleaning and cooking for yourself before marriage while stop after getting married? Out of the last three women I dated seriously only one of them was a good cook, I did most of the meal prep, or we buy food when we are too busy. if you are with a mature person things like cleaning after yourself shouldn't be a burden.

How about this scenario? The man pays all the bills and everything is in his name. He buys the house, he buys the cars, no joint account, no joint credit cards, no joint taxes. Your money is your money, his money is his money...is this a better approach?
 

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I meant to specify how things should be split in the scenario of both partners making $80k.

Any woman with an $80k income prior to marriage should never entertain the idea of being a stay at home mom. In my case the moment a woman mentions wanting to be a stay at home mom she is automatically not wife material.

And housework and cooking should not really be a thing with grown-ass people...if you were cleaning and cooking for yourself before marriage while stop after getting married? Out of the last three women I dated seriously only one of them was a good cook, I did most of the meal prep, or we buy food when we are too busy. if you are with a mature person things like cleaning after yourself shouldn't be a burden.

How about this scenario? The man pays all the bills and everything is in his name. He buys the house, he buys the cars, no joint account, no joint credit cards, no joint taxes. Your money is your money, his money is his money...is this a better approach?
I think it depends on the type of marriage u want as a male or female and what u feel most comfy with. I could be a stay at home mom fully or work and contribute to the home financially and share the house stuff.

Personally, I bring in around 59k a year from my research, consulting and doctoral program. I’m on the second round of interviews for tenure track positions, three of which are at private colleges which would start off paying 70-90k. (Wish me luck!) I would have a 3/3 teaching load where I teach three undergrad classes per semester on Tuesdays and Thursdays from 9:15-2:00pm. I’m not at research 1institutions so tenure requirements are easy as hell. Basically publish two articles a year four of which I already have. So basically, if I get married, I will have a lot of time to devote to my own family while still contributing financially to my household. I expect to take his money and my money and pool our resources for ourselves and our children. But I expect both of us to help around the house b/c I feel that’s reasonable. I honestly don’t think it has to be a struggle or a burden for anybody if both parties are looking out for each other or trying to care for one another.

I just assume that if u with somebody this type of stuff doesn’t matter as much if ur both working towards a shared vision. But apparently I’m naive and everything is a psycho warfare and lemme shyt on you b4 u can shyt on me mentality these days.

To be honest it’s disheartening to even think about and goes against every instinct I personally have which says, I give everything, he gives everything, we as a unit win.
 
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