I AM WARHOL
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The video only referenced Vick once 
Twitter is upset Lamar is still being compared to Vick and think Vick's PR is better than the player was
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And let's not forget Roddy White struggled his first couple seasons....Roddy didn't break out until one Joey Harrington season and then Matt Ryan era.
The White pick didn’t always look as good as it does now, however. After totaling 952 combined receiving yards and three combined touchdowns in his first two seasons while struggling with drops, many were ready to vilify Roddy as a bust. There was even a report that during White’s rookie season, a Falcons’ assistant coach claimed that White wasn’t good enough to succeed in the NFL without any argument from other members of the coaching staff in response.
After those first two bad seasons, Roddy White’s career took off. He credits the arrival of longtime rival receiver Joe Horn as a catalyst for helping him turn his career around.
“Playing with Joe was the best thing to ever happen to me,’’ White said. “He was a guy who had been to Pro Bowls and he took me under his wing and really taught me what this league is all about. He’s the one who made me realize what’s expected of you if you’re going to be a good pro. He’s the one who taught me that you have to prepare mentally every day and you have to go out and practice hard every day. He’s the one who showed me that this game takes so much more effort than I was putting into it.’’
Throwback Thursday Series: Falcons draft Roddy White
A steal in the first round.
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VICK WOULD BE INSANE
IN THIS OFFENSE FRIENDLY ERA
THE SAME WAY A.I. WOULD
nikkaS WOULD HAVE HAD LAMAR
PLAYING WR IN THE 2000S.
VICK CRAWLED SO LAMAR COULD RUN
Clayton: Cracking down on corners
The NFL's decision to enforce illegal contact after five yards will have a huge impact on this season.
Illegal contact enforcement could have huge impact
Peyton Manning leaped to 49TD 10int that season.
Brady jumped into the 90s in passer rating and hit 4k passing yards for first time that season.
Lamar on the 2001-2006 falcons...not too sure how that goes. Lamar would be better off with the Ravens elite defense of the era and managing the game.
Vick was one of those phenoms, those lightning in a bottle talents that just took the league by storm. He’s the definition of “You just had to be there” to truly understand what Vick meant to people at that particular point in time. He’s the Allen Iverson of popular football.
Plus the dog-fighting scandal and how it highlighted racial differences in America, similar to the OJ Simpson case, just added to it.
With that said Lamar Jackson is better than Michael Vick. And really its not a debate.
Plus the dog-fighting scandal and how it highlighted racial differences in America, similar to the OJ Simpson case, just added to it.
With that said Lamar Jackson is better than Michael Vick. And really its not a debate.
Erratic415
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Vick was a trendsetter but I do find it funny how Vick stans act like he invented the concept of being a dual threat QB as if Randall and Steve Young didn't exist.
I hate how Cunningham has completely been erased from history as if he wasn't one of the trailblazers for black QBs and doesn't have an All-Pro 1st team and MVP on his resume unlike Vick.
Same shyt with McNabb who carried bums for most of his career but doesn't get a fraction of the love Mike does.
This happens a lot in sports, and other fields of entertainment for that matter.
People (often young) will think that something is new and unprecedented, when there are numerous examples of it happening before that. The NFL has been around for so long, what are the chances of someone in fairly recent years really being the first one to do something?
RBs who can run and catch is another example. I often hear people crediting certain RBs for bringing that into the game. It’s gotten more common in the last couple of decades, but it’s always been there. Marshall Faulk had 1,000/1,000 on GSOT, as did Roger Craig in 1985. Craig’s career also intersected with dual threats like Marcus Allen, Thurman Thomas, and Walter Payton. There was Joe Washington, Chuck Foreman, Lydell Mitchell, etc…back in the 70s. The 50s had Lenny Moore & Frank Gifford.
The claim with Vick is especially strange given the time frame (drafted in 01’). The NFL was already shifting in this direction in the previous few years, with a bunch of big names and early draft picks being dual threat QBs.
McNair was picked 3rd overall in the 95’ draft and led the 99’ Titans to a Super Bowl appearance. McNabb was the 2nd overall pick in 99’ and MVP runner up in 00’. Culpepper was picked in the first round in 99’ and had a Pro Bowl season in 00’. Young had already been arguably the best QB of the 90s.
There were other QBs like Slash and Mark Brunell… even Doug Flutie returning to the NFL after his CFL success. The 70s had Bobby Douglas, Fran Tarkenton, Steve Grogan, Greg Landry, etc…
What I do think was different about Vick was just how remarkably fast he was. He wasn’t just “fast for a QB”. He was fast for any position, which gave defensive coordinators something extra to think about.
I’m glad you mentioned Cunningham, as he was one of my favorite players at the time.
I think Cunningham and Vick had some career similarities, such as having their best passing seasons (1998, 2010) after they had been away from the sport. I think both of them admitted to not studying film earlier in their careers like they should have, and then doing it more later in their careers when they had their best passing seasons. It also obviously helped Randall that the Vikings had an amazing receiving corps.
But Cunningham still had some good passing seasons before that, particularly in 90’. He probably should have won MVP that year . While rushing for nearly 1,000 yards, he led the NFC in touchdown passes. Then the next year, he tore his ACL on a play similar to Tom Brady/Carson Palmer’s ACL injuries.
I wish he had a different HC than Buddy Ryan, who apparently told him “make 5 big plays and our defense will take care of the rest”. Buddy was a great DC but not much as a Head Coach.
The people complaining about Twitter probably just think about how Vick was on Madden, or just remember the highlight reels and not how much he struggled as a passer for most of his career.
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Rasille
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Vick was awesome but I see why people would feel a way about Lamar still being compared to Vick.
Vicks best year by far was the one in philly 2011 i think, outside of that he has become incredible overrated in nfl history . hes not even a top 5 black QB of all time
very cool player and great madden player though lol
very cool player and great madden player though lol
Lamar Jackson is what everyone expected Michael Vick to be.
Old heads are so funny with their everything is easier now bullshyt. Both passing yards and rushing yards are down now, least since 2003.
Take that bs back to the nba threads. These "I watch 3 games per year, conf finals and sb" cats always try to transfer their nba media style takes to football
Just cause you can’t deliberately try to injure people doesn’t mean that you can’t stop them.
Take that bs back to the nba threads. These "I watch 3 games per year, conf finals and sb" cats always try to transfer their nba media style takes to football
Just cause you can’t deliberately try to injure people doesn’t mean that you can’t stop them.
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