Tyga speaks on the Moors...and a cac does his cac thing..smh

[Mowgli]

Its a myth that Moors "cold Africans into oblivion". I have debunked that myth so many times on here.

Well point me in the right direction. What book do i need to read. Im not pigeonholing my world view into what i want it to be.


My current view is that the moors had a hand in slavery.

That said, not all moors had a hand in slavery because black arabs, berbers, and mulattoes were regarded as moors.

They also did alot of good in spreading civilization

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

Tyga? you mean the dude that knocked up/wifed a stripper? and now refers to his kids mother as a ho in social media?

 

[Malik]

The sad thing is 99% of whites don't know their own history but, try to tell you about yours. When you really learn your history, there's no way you can ever feel inferior to whites again. We taught them....TWICE. We came before them. We started civilization. We was popping that crystal when they all thought it was beer and shyt Then they conquered the world after we civilized them, and like the lame nerdy nikka who rises to power, he wants to kill anybody who remembers he used to be the lame nerdy nikka. ESPECIALLY the cool fly nikka (blacks) that was that nikka before him. That's whites. Take a look around though...the pendulum is swinging back the other way. Nobody stays in power forever. And whites made alot of enemies the last 600 years I hope I don't die early. I would love to see the world in 2060 or 2070

 

[Pdiddy]

Based on the comments, everyone on "the coli" is an expert on ancient civilizations

 

[Dr. Sebi Jr.]

Notice how the rules change when its Black theft at the hands of Whites...its noble, even celebrated.... When its the other way around they call us no good savage thugs.

Silence, AGENT. Whites are inferior to us and we can do whatever we want with them. They are mindless savages who never invented anything and we had to teach them how to not shyt on their dinner tables. They didn't even have tables. Tables were invented by the Moors, who were 100% BLACK.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Well point me in the right direction. What book do i need to read. Im not pigeonholing my world view into what i want it to be.

For one the Moors were not apart of the Arab slave trade which was limited to Southeast Africa/Zanj's of Eastern Africa.

The Moors on the other hand were apart of the Trans Sahara trade like I stated to @BlackFruitPunch. The Moors would have been limited to Northwest Africa. During the Moorish people they wouldn't be able to just steam roll right in and take slaves of their choosing. There was powerful Sahelian kingdoms/empires like Ghana and Mali acting as buffer zones against foreigners wanting to expand further south. The reason for this is they wanted the source of their gold to stay secret. Since Sahelian kingdoms/empires like Ghana and Mali controled 2/3's of the worlds gold at one point.

But more important in the TST it was slaves coming IN than the other way around. And when I mean slaves coming in, I mean European slaves. During the times of the Moors there has NEVER been any black slaves linked to the TST being exported out of Africa. We only start to see black slaves linked to TST AFTER the Moorish period and AFTER the fall of those powerful Sahelian empires:

"Except for the Zandj (black slaves) from lower Iraq, no large body of blacks historically linked to the trans-Saharan slave trade existed anywhere in the Arab world ... The high costs of slaves, because of the risks inherent in the desert crossing, which would have not permitted such a massive exodus ... In this connection, it is significant that in the Arabic iconography of the period, the slave merchant was often depicted as a man with a hole in his purse. Until the Crusades the Muslim world drew its slaves from two main sources: Eastern and Central Europe (Slavs) and Turkestan. The Sudan only came third. "

-Africa from the Seventh to Eleventh Century, UNESCO, 1988

It is a myth that wont go away that the Moors sold black slaves in large numbers. And also that large amounts of blacks were linked to the TST. If anything the Moors enslaved/imported large numbers of European female slaves which had an impacted on modern day Berbers(Moors) DNA; their Mtdna being a result of European slave woman and their Y-DNA being African E-M81(African slave master). Thats what most Northwest Africans in general are a result of in ancestry.

 

[Sad Bunny]

I doubt he even cracked a book. Probably watched hidden colors and was like



Ima rock these nikkas when i get on instagram. No big deal. We should know our history pre egyptian up until today. It changes your perspective on practically every aspect of life.

Is there a book you recommend so I can read about this breh?

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Anyways... I'm gonna get on topic. That cac has some nerve saying how his culture conquered African people. I bet that cac does not realize that his culture was influenced(through being conquered) by almost every single group. Yes that includes African. Heck even their precious Greece was influenced by West Asian! Which is why there is called a "Orientalizing period" of Greece! Greece the "foundation of Western civilization" was heavily influenced by their Asian neighbors.

Not going to get started on how European ship building during the "discovery of America" was heavily influenced by Muslims/Jews, how West Africans financed the Renaissance, how their OWN alphabet is of Middle Eastern and African origins(if we wanna go the language route)! Or how the Moors and other Muslims heavily influenced their architecture, bought them new technology, and even were the ones behind the guitar which they love so much. I can go on and on with this, but people get my point. That cac needs to understand that his people, the "European" people were never really innovators but took things from many cultures. It wasn't until the Industrial Revolution until we see Europeans as the dominate players of influencing different cultures. Before that one can hardly find native thing that Europeans weren't influenced by. Especially for European Mediterranean countries like Italy, Spain, Greece, etc.

And if that cac wants to talk about his people conquering other cultures, then he should mention how Europeans are the MOST conquered people on this Earth. Most people don't realize that the Europeans were conquered MORE than Africans. True story.

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

Please don't bring them Israelites in here.

YOU KNOW THEY OUTSIDE THE THREAD LIKE

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

YOU KNOW THEY OUTSIDE THE THREAD LIKE

A few of em on ignore so

 

[StickStickly]

I feel like someone who sells faded and make it nasty is not best fit to champion this discussion

Right. Isn't tyga sleeping with an underage white girl right now. This is not the man to challenge racist white dude on history. I mean damn tyga, that's not a picture of a moor that's a DRAWING

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Right. Isn't tyga sleeping with an underage white girl right now. This is not the man to challenge racist white dude on history. I mean damn tyga, that's not a picture of a moor that's a DRAWING

Isn't he fukking a young Kardashian?

 

[Mowgli]

For one the Moors were not apart of the Arab slave trade which was limited to Southeast Africa/Zanj's of Eastern Africa.

The Moors on the other hand were apart of the Trans Sahara trade like I stated to @BlackFruitPunch. The Moors would have been limited to Northwest Africa. During the Moorish people they wouldn't be able to just steam roll right in and take slaves of their choosing. There was powerful Sahelian kingdoms/empires like Ghana and Mali acting as buffer zones against foreigners wanting to expand further south. The reason for this is they wanted the source of their gold to stay secret. Since Sahelian kingdoms/empires like Ghana and Mali controled 2/3's of the worlds gold at one point.

But more important in the TST it was slaves coming IN than the other way around. And when I mean slaves coming in, I mean European slaves. During the times of the Moors there has NEVER been any black slaves linked to the TST being exported out of Africa. We only start to see black slaves linked to TST AFTER the Moorish period and AFTER the fall of those powerful Sahelian empires:
-Africa from the Seventh to Eleventh Century, UNESCO, 1988

It is a myth that wont go away that the Moors sold black slaves in large numbers. And also that large amounts of blacks were linked to the TST. If anything the Moors enslaved/imported large numbers of European female slaves which had an impacted on modern day Berbers(Moors) DNA; their Mtdna being a result of European slave woman and their Y-DNA being African E-M81(African slave master). Thats what most Northwest Africans in general are a result of in ancestry.

I see, so basically they're role, in enslaving black people to sell to arabs was small and they largely enslaved cacs. Still not good to get behind slave traders, but still i see your point. In my mind i up played it and it should be downplayed since Moor is a general term for black people that changed over time.


Im going to crack open this golden age of the moor by van sertima and get back to you.

 

[StickStickly]

Isn't he fukking a young Kardashian?

Yeah. Kylie. He left his wife and kid to fukk a 17 year old kardashian .

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I see, so basically they're role, in enslaving black people to sell to arabs was small and they largely enslaved cacs. Still not good to get behind slave traders, but still i see your point. In my mind i up played it and it should be downplayed.


Im going to crack open this golden age of the moor by van sertima and get back to you.

Like I said the Arab slave trade was mostly concentrated in East Africa. The Zanj from East Africa are assoicated with the Arab Slave trade not Africans from West Africa/Sahel. Any black slave that would have been part of the TST would be prisoners of wars taken by those Sahalian states and sold.