Tyler Perry Suggests that BW settle....does not go over well

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I had a long drawn out comment then realized what's the point it's not going to reach the people it needs to.

Women should have whatever standard they deem necessary for a mate wether that partner is male or female. And women standard should be high. As a father with daughters I don't expect them to bring bums to my house and I be happy about it.

That said women need not be delusional and be willing to accept the consequences of your standard be it good or bad and stop bytching that there are no good man or black man out there. You made your choices accept that in life there is no requirement that your standards are met.
 
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Its in showing us as weak, and powerless, and incapable of taking care of our women and children...a basic fukking tenet to manhood across every culture since the beginning of time. That's how they accomplish the narrative of emasculating us.

They really out here in our face telling us that Black men are inferior bc we lack the ability of being able to perform basic tenets of manhood and that BW are wrong for even having the expectations that we'd be able to....and you nikkas want to defend it.

This doesn’t even make sense. Black men out earn black women.

How can there be a complaint of black men not being able to provide and live up to the standards blavk women are living up to by themselves…. When black men actually have more resources to provide than the women who are complaining.

There is s disconnect from reality in this narrative.
 
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I had a long drawn out comment then realized what's the point it so g going to reach the people it needs to.

Women should have whatever standard they deem necessary for a mate wether that partner is male or female. And women standard should be high. As father of daughters I don't expect them to bring bums to my house and I be happy about it.

That said women need not be delusional and be willing to accept the consequences of your standard be it good or bad and stop bytching that there are no good man or black man out there. You made your choices accept that in life there is no requirement that your standards are met.
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I’m just now seeing this thread and yes Tyler is technically correct. But he’s missing one factor, and that is women’s nature. They want the man to have more than her and naturally the person that makes more money will have to carry a greater financial burden. After a while the woman will get tired of paying all the big bills. She’s going to resent him, there are anomalies and exceptions to the rule but this is true for the most part. She’ll begin to lose respect for him. I know somebody that’s going through this right now.
 

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You love the patriarchy? You love women having restricted rights and resources? You love living without bodily autonomy?

The only reason we even have the ability to read, write, have a bank account and speak our mines is because women have thankfully gone against the patriarchy. I am genuinely baffled how you could love a system that literally sees you as nothing but a resource baby making machine whose only purpose is to serve men.
Do you expect the man to lead and provide?
 

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The media loves to use equal level of education as a way to show that many black men aren't eligible in dating. (when education is low on the list of things men use to choose a woman) That also disqualifies blue collar workers and a some of those jobs pay good money too, or can be easy pathways to entrepreneurship

Throw in student loans and many degree holders are living paycheck to paycheck anyway.

Sistas need to understand that the majority of yall are going to have to work and be ok with that. (In 2023 most households need 2 incomes, and this gen of black men didn't create those circumstances) Find someone who you can build with and get out of the game.
 

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Women of other races do all that as well but why aren't they turning masculine??? 75% of married women HAVE to work. But somehow Black men are supposed to be the only men that have stay at home wives. :what:

looking at the statistics of our women who have kids...

72% of the mothers in our community do all those things by themselves already... with no additional help, income, or care from a man. And statistics show that a man in the house (regardless of income level) would lower the chance of that family living in poverty/financial distress along with increasing the chances of the success of their children? shyt, just marrying a man (regardless of income level) actually increases the life expectancy of women.

(all the above assertions are based on population statistics, outliers do exist but shouldnt be the focus as they are the exception not the rule)


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nikkas just make up stats I see :what:

And all this does is support the point as to why if they can do it by themselves as single mothers, why you nikkas got every excuse in the book why you can't do it as a man for your family. At what point do yall look at yourselves and what you can do as a man to improve your situation with women and stop looking at what women should do? I know most of you grew up without your fathers but my god. The shyt is insufferable. If you wanna be the man, you gotta do the shyt it requires.
 

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i don't understand the movement of acting like majority of black men are bums or broke. The economy of 2023 for men in general is not that of the 1950's where a man could raise a whole family in a nice house with no college degree on one income. Thats a diffrent era.....I can't blame black women for wanting a man who can do all of the things....but so do every other woman.....and what are these women doing to stand out?

Most of these broads are out here fat and unhealthy, can't cook for shyt and don't want to listen to their man......they want the dream man but ain't the dream woman. BW gotta decide if they want love + good relationship or if they want to impress random people on IG and their bitter friends.
They think they are always settling for us but think no one is ever settling for them. :yeshrug:

Media has gone to black women’s heads, like @feelosofer said earlier the issue is that black women’s perception of black men’s value is totally fukked up. It doesn’t matter if you show stats or receipts like many brothers in here have done that BM make more money, have less kids/debt, are middle class etc.

Black women will still ”FEEL” that they are doing better than us and are better than us due to what the media promotes despite what reality is, women are just naturally more susceptible to what media/culture influences
 

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This doesn’t even make sense. Black men out earn black women.

How can there be a complaint of black men not being able to provide and live up to the standards blavk women are living up to by themselves…. When black men actually have more resources to provide than the women who are complaining.

There is s disconnect from reality in this narrative.
My nikka what side of this debate are you even on :what:

I'm actually in agreement that black men have the ability to provide for our families. I'm rejecting these notions the media keep putting out, and some nikkas keep supporting, of us being incapable and our women needing to pick up all the slack. The shyt is not a good look and I'm tired of Black men being shown in that light.
 

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My nikka what side of this debate are you even on :what:

I'm actually in agreement that black men have the ability to provide for our families. I'm rejecting these notions the media keep putting out, and some nikkas keep supporting, of us being incapable and our women needing to pick up all the slack. The shyt is not a good look and I'm tired of Black men being shown in that light.
Ah. My bad. I’m going to take a break from posting. This makes two times where I misinterpreted what I read. Going to catch up on sleep. Long week.
 

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bw have horrible mentalities

“take me as i am, you better bend over backwards for me and my 2 kids by another father”

“im fat and covered in makeup but im a thick bad bytch” “i ain’t settling for no ashy lame nikka who ain’t on my level”

you’re right they’re above your level stop being so delusional…

it’s 1000s that look just like you but you’re tryna get chose by a mythical nikka when maybe you should finally humble yourself.

that nikka if he existed wouldn’t be worried about you anyway
And they’re also proven to be horrible at vetting men and get angry and place blame on everyone else for their terrible dating decisions
 

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Your post has nothing to do with mine. Sounds like some shyt you're going through personally that I can't relate to and don't give a fukk about.
It has everything to do with the thread topic and even touches on the obvious and constant failings of your post. No doubt due to some shyt you're going through personally that I can't relate to and don't give a fukk about. :manny:

I'm talking about this type of talk being insulting to Black men and THE most emasculating thing they do to us as far as image. Nothing worse than portraying a group of men as so pitiful that you don't even think he's capable of supporting his woman and his seeds.
And many in this thread have pushed back on that by actually putting up stats that showed where Tyler Perry was wrong, instead of talking out their ass like you did. Even more, pushback against those that talk out their ass and those that support such people is needed more than dancing to their tune.

You nikkas want to make it about everything else but that, but that's really what it boils down to.

And even if you don't have the foresight to understand the impact this has on the image of the black man, at least try having the foresight to understand the type of women and the type of environment this creates. If your woman has to slug it out everyday in the corporate world to get her half or more of the bills, come home and do the womanly shyt you want her to do as well like cooking and cleaning and child rearing, that will weigh on her.
You sound so hurt and do a terrible job of hiding it. Even more evidenced by the nitwits who dap your posts but misery loves company I guess.

And I understand the foresight that this kind of thing has on the image of black men which is why we're posting stats that go against this bullshyt. On top of that though, we're also honest enough to note how other communities operate and in other communities, there is little talk about settling because most other women either understand the concept and don't act like it is the end of the world. Also, many of those women understand what it means to get a man. A lot of black women can't even bring themselves to approach a man they want, something you don't see in other communities. shyt is wild.

The rest of the stuff you are whining about has no bearing on this topic. I assume that is more personal stuff from you.

Yall out here creating tired, angry, masculine women, and then wondering why they aren't cooperative and feminine and willing to get with your program as a man.

Black men need to be striving to be providers and leaders of our households, full stop. Not constantly trying to negotiate with Black women why we shouldn't have to do that shyt, but should be treated as if we do.

Black men should strive to be providers, but they should do it only for women worth their effort, not just any woman out there. What you call negotiation is merely advice. We could just tell these women to fukk off, and maybe we should, since there are plenty of black women not having these problems. Plenty of black women who understand how the game is played. We're at this point because we've been coddling black women and letting people like push lies and misinformation about the stats and so on. We've been lying to black women. In that we've done them a disservice instead of being like other races and being honest.

Also, here is the issue, and I'm going to be blunt and hurt some feelings but I don't care anymore: Even if all black men became top flight earners, they still would not want a lot of these women that have been left over. They would not want them because black top flight earners already exist and many of these women do shyt all to try and get those men. They won't even approach them. They are not going to suddenly change because there are a large number of successful black men. In fact, we know this with black women getting at black men for not wanting to date single mothers, overweight women, women with tattoos, women with high body counts, and so on. Men will say what they don't want and then they get attacked. So if these women aren't even willing to change now, what makes you think they will change later? Also, constantly broadcasting that you don't need a man, that you see rich men as bags and tricks, calling women that actually try or speak up for men as pick-mes, and (Matt is going to love this one I'm sure) glorifying all manner of things that indicate that your p*ssy is made for controlling and mesmerizing men for the purposes just mentioned while doing little to push-back against all of this (and even attacking people who speak against it) is going to sway heavily how these guys view these women. Why am I mentioning all this stuff? Because you were whining about the black man's image and I'd say you forgot to account for the black woman's image in all of this as well.

I didn't even touch on the anti-black male rhetoric that comes from many black women as well. That all plays a part as well. If I assume all things posted by other groups is what they truly think in their hearts, even for black men, should I suddenly ignore that just because a black woman says it? For all this talk of image, you neglect the role these women have played in shaping their own. I feel bad for the decent ones since I'd like to think they are a silent majority. Or not, who knows.

And even more, it is terrifying to think that a woman's feminity is conditional. That is an inherent trait. It's a fukking woman. How is something that is your main trait conditional? If it is something that you can or do put aside and only bring out for "the right man" then trust and believe that woman will be passed over for the woman who is always feminine or has it as a main trait. One canbe feminine and still strive and be successful. Those that don't understand this are the ones that lose out and the ones that many men avoid, unless they are bottom-feeders. The latter are whom woman have to pick from. Survival of the fittest, that's all it is.

Main point: It sucks that some women have to settle but then when you think about who is settling, then you realize that was always the outcome. Even if there were more top earning black men, the world is a big place and those black men would look elsewhere to find the very thing they are looking for since I doubt those settling women would step their game up to match those black men, as evidenced by all the dikk-policing and preference policing.

This post is long but I don't often comment on all the aspects of this kind of topic when it arises, so I figured I would today. It all ties to your post and to this topic, granted that you have the foresight to grasp it.

Everyone gets online and tells BW to date damn near homeless men. Just take any old bum off the street just to say you have a man but then when his worthless ass uses you, it's your fault because you should have known better. I am so glad BW are waking up to this nonsense. The "Fund a Bum Foundation" is working over time to get BW back in the box. Luckily BW are beginning to see the light.

No, only the shytty ones. There is a reason why black men get pissy when a perceived "good one" dates down, the very thing that even black women pitch a fit about when it occurs (Monica and her love for prison thugs comes to mind).

In the end, this reeks of entitlement, bottom tier black women thinking they deserve what top tier black women have and can get. Sometimes I wonder if the shyt bottom-tier black women spew is just a means to sabotage the chances of top tier black women. They've shown a hatred for pick-mes so who knows.
 
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nikkas just make up stats I see :what:

And all this does is support the point as to why if they can do it by themselves as single mothers, why you nikkas got every excuse in the book why you can't do it as a man for your family. At what point do yall look at yourselves and what you can do as a man to improve your situation with women and stop looking at what women should do? I know most of you grew up without your fathers but my god. The shyt is insufferable. If you wanna be the man, you gotta do the shyt it requires.
1. Which stat do you think I was making up? I’ll post a link to the study.

2. What metric are black men lacking in?
 

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nikkas just make up stats I see :what:

And all this does is support the point as to why if they can do it by themselves as single mothers, why you nikkas got every excuse in the book why you can't do it as a man for your family. At what point do yall look at yourselves and what you can do as a man to improve your situation with women and stop looking at what women should do? I know most of you grew up without your fathers but my god. The shyt is insufferable. If you wanna be the man, you gotta do the shyt it requires.

If every black man with no child made 100k

But they stated that they don't want to take care of women who has kids or a child from another man

How many women do you think would be single % wise?

I'm starting off with kids, I haven't even gotten down to attitudes, but let's start off with women with kids or a kid by another man.

If the men with no kids all make 100k - 200k but refuse to be a step dad because that's their choice and they have that right, how many women will not have a husband? % wise
 
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