Tyler Perry Suggests that BW settle....does not go over well

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They think they are always settling for us but think no one is ever settling for them. :yeshrug:

Media has gone to black women’s heads, like @feelosofer said earlier the issue is that black women’s perception of black men’s value is totally fukked up. It doesn’t matter if you show stats or receipts like many brothers in here have done that BM make more money, have less kids/debt, are middle class etc.

Black women will still ”FEEL” that they are doing better than us and are better than us due to what the media promotes despite what reality is, women are just naturally more susceptible to what media/culture influences
You saying something when you talk about the media playing a huge part, but there's a lot of delusion to go around.

Its a lot of broads fat, ugly, uncooperative, and a single mother that think they deserve a Black male CEO. They need to be left where they stand to die alone. But its also nikkas that want to be the head of the household and seen as the man, but have nervous breakdowns at the thought of being financially responsible for a family and spending money on the woman they choose.

Its a recent situation I seen just like this. I know a dude: divorced, no kids, just turned 50, who manage to pull a younger broad (in her 30s). Broad is chocolate and fine af with a fat ass. He been talking about this chick for months to our friend group, saying shes traditional and willing to submit and the p*ssy fire. Basically everything perfect. Son ruined the relationship because he refused to spend any money taking her out after the first few dates, and wanted to see her spend some money on him. She did little shyt, but dude kept upping the ante till she left him. Me and my nikkas were floored lol. Shorty just wanted to be treated like a woman but nikka was too focused on making she he wasn't "being taken advantage of" and missed out on the chick of his dreams. And this nikka is a VP at a bank, so he had the dough.

Point is, we gotta get on the same page as a race about getting our family dynamics in order, and stop listening to these talking heads who amplify ppl's worst fears in relationships to get views. And I don't think that's some shyt we can just put on the women.
 

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It has everything to do with the thread topic and even touches on the obvious and constant failings of your post. No doubt due to some shyt you're going through personally that I can't relate to and don't give a fukk about. :manny:


And many in this thread have pushed back on that by actually putting up stats that showed where Tyler Perry was wrong, instead of talking out their ass like you did. Even more, pushback against those that talk out their ass and those that support such people is needed more than dancing to their tune.


You sound so hurt and do a terrible job of hiding it. Even more evidenced by the nitwits who dap your posts but misery loves company I guess.

And I understand the foresight that this kind of thing has on the image of black men which is why we're posting stats that go against this bullshyt. On top of that though, we're also honest enough to note how other communities operate and in other communities, there is little talk about settling because most other women either understand the concept and don't act like it is the end of the world. Also, many of those women understand what it means to get a man. A lot of black women can't even bring themselves to approach a man they want, something you don't see in other communities. shyt is wild.

The rest of the stuff you are whining about has no bearing on this topic. I assume that is more personal stuff from you.



Black men should strive to be providers, but they should do it only for women worth their effort, not just any woman out there. What you call negotiation is merely advice. We could just tell these women to fukk off, and maybe we should, since there are plenty of black women not having these problems. Plenty of black women who understand how the game is played. We're at this point because we've been coddling black women and letting people like push lies and misinformation about the stats and so on. We've been lying to black women. In that we've done them a disservice instead of being like other races and being honest.

Also, here is the issue, and I'm going to be blunt and hurt some feelings but I don't care anymore: Even if all black men became top flight earners, they still would not want a lot of these women that have been left over. They would not want them because black top flight earners already exist and many of these women do shyt all to try and get those men. They won't even approach them. They are not going to suddenly change because there are a large number of successful black men. In fact, we know this with black women getting at black men for not wanting to date single mothers, overweight women, women with tattoos, women with high body counts, and so on. Men will say what they don't want and then they get attacked. So if these women aren't even willing to change now, what makes you think they will change later? Also, constantly broadcasting that you don't need a man, that you see rich men as bags and tricks, calling women that actually try or speak up for men as pick-mes, and (Matt is going to love this one I'm sure) glorifying all manner of things that indicate that your p*ssy is made for controlling and mesmerizing men for the purposes just mentioned while doing little to push-back against all of this (and even attacking people who speak against it) is going to sway heavily how these guys view these women. Why am I mentioning all this stuff? Because you were whining about the black man's image and I'd say you forgot to account for the black woman's image in all of this as well.

I didn't even touch on the anti-black male rhetoric that comes from many black women as well. That all plays a part as well. If I assume all things posted by other groups is what they truly think in their hearts, even for black men, should I suddenly ignore that just because a black woman says it? For all this talk of image, you neglect the role these women have played in shaping their own. I feel bad for the decent ones since I'd like to think they are a silent majority. Or not, who knows.

And even more, it is terrifying to think that a woman's feminity is conditional. That is an inherent trait. It's a fukking woman. How is something that is your main trait conditional? If it is something that you can or do put aside and only bring out for "the right man" then trust and believe that woman will be passed over for the woman who is always feminine or has it as a main trait. One canbe feminine and still strive and be successful. Those that don't understand this are the ones that lose out and the ones that many men avoid, unless they are bottom-feeders. The latter are whom woman have to pick from. Survival of the fittest, that's all it is.

Main point: It sucks that some women have to settle but then when you think about who is settling, then you realize that was always the outcome. Even if there were more top earning black men, the world is a big place and those black men would look elsewhere to find the very thing they are looking for since I doubt those settling women would step their game up to match those black men, as evidenced by all the dikk-policing and preference policing.

This post is long but I don't often comment on all the aspects of this kind of topic when it arises, so I figured I would today. It all ties to your post and to this topic, granted that you have the foresight to grasp it.



No, only the shytty ones. There is a reason why black men get pissy when a perceived "good one" dates down, the very thing that even black women pitch a fit about when it occurs (Monica and her love for prison thugs comes to mind).

In the end, this reeks of entitlement, bottom tier black women thinking they deserve what top tier black women have and can get. Sometimes I wonder if the shyt bottom-tier black women spew is just a means to sabotage the chances of top tier black women. They've shown a hatred for pick-mes so who knows.
There is no way I'm reading all that shyt.
But sorry for your loss, or whatever tf you were talking about in this book you wrote breh.
 

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You saying something when you talk about the media playing a huge part, but there's a lot of delusion to go around.

Its a lot of broads fat, ugly, uncooperative, and a single mother that think they deserve a Black male CEO. They need to be left where they stand to die alone. But its also nikkas that want to be the head of the household and seen as the man, but have nervous breakdowns at the thought of being financially responsible for a family and spending money on the woman they choose.

Its a recent situation I seen just like this. I know a dude: divorced, no kids, just turned 50, who manage to pull a younger broad (in her 30s). Broad is chocolate and fine af with a fat ass. He been talking about this chick for months to our friend group, saying shes traditional and willing to submit and the p*ssy fire. Basically everything perfect. Son ruined the relationship because he refused to spend any money taking her out after the first few dates, and wanted to see her spend some money on him. She did little shyt, but dude kept upping the ante till she left him. Me and my nikkas were floored lol. Shorty just wanted to be treated like a woman but nikka was too focused on making she he wasn't "being taken advantage of" and missed out on the chick of his dreams. And this nikka is a VP at a bank, so he had the dough.

Point is, we gotta get on the same page as a race about getting our family dynamics in order, and stop listening to these talking heads who amplify ppl's worst fears in relationships to get views. And I don't think that's some shyt we can just put on the women.
I can agree with this
 

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You saying something when you talk about the media playing a huge part, but there's a lot of delusion to go around.

Its a lot of broads fat, ugly, uncooperative, and a single mother that think they deserve a Black male CEO. They need to be left where they stand to die alone. But its also nikkas that want to be the head of the household and seen as the man, but have nervous breakdowns at the thought of being financially responsible for a family and spending money on the woman they choose.

Its a recent situation I seen just like this. I know a dude: divorced, no kids, just turned 50, who manage to pull a younger broad (in her 30s). Broad is chocolate and fine af with a fat ass. He been talking about this chick for months to our friend group, saying shes traditional and willing to submit and the p*ssy fire. Basically everything perfect. Son ruined the relationship because he refused to spend any money taking her out after the first few dates, and wanted to see her spend some money on him. She did little shyt, but dude kept upping the ante till she left him. Me and my nikkas were floored lol. Shorty just wanted to be treated like a woman but nikka was too focused on making she he wasn't "being taken advantage of" and missed out on the chick of his dreams. And this nikka is a VP at a bank, so he had the dough.

Point is, we gotta get on the same page as a race about getting our family dynamics in order, and stop listening to these talking heads who amplify ppl's worst fears in relationships to get views. And I don't think that's some shyt we can just put on the women.
Did he really miss out if she wouldn’t pay for things?
 

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After listening to the actual video, I realize you nikkas just don’t listen correctly and will argue for 20 pages over misunderstandings and misinterpretations

:francis:

It’s sad considering we all should be reading with understanding since that’s all you can do in this space.
 

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1. Which stat do you think I was making up? I’ll post a link to the study.

2. What metric are black men lacking in?
Post whatever you got.
And breh why is it hard to understand that I'm talking about being against the narrative that Black men are lacking and incapable? I done said that in so many posts.

Problem is, cats want to talk out of both sides of their mouths. Don't want to be framed as lacking and incapable, esp compared to our women bc we know deep down its a bad look, but also don't want to have the responsibility and be held to the standard of living up to our role as men as providers.
 

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Did he really miss out if she wouldn’t pay for things?
I would say so, but it depends on what a man wants for his relationship. I personally don't measure women by what they bring in financially. My wife earns good money but we'd be straight if she decided to quit and focus on the kids/other ventures. That's always been the goal for me.

I'm pretty sure breh agrees he missed out too tho. He out here on apps, lowing his age, trying to catch another broad like that. Unlikely, especially with the chemistry he said they had, but every man gotta make his own way :yeshrug:
 

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I would say so, but it depends on what a man wants for his relationship. I personally don't measure women by what they bring in financially. My wife earns good money but we'd be straight if she decided to quit and focus on the kids/other ventures. That's always been the goal for me.

I'm pretty sure breh agrees he missed out too tho. He out here on apps, lowing his age, trying to catch another broad like that. Unlikely, especially with the chemistry he said they had, but every man gotta make his own way :yeshrug:
True

Sounds like it was her lack of effort as opposed to the dollar amount. Of course he’s going to be looking for new chicks so sleep with.
 

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Dating based on income level feels so superficial to me idk.
As long as a person has goals, working hard to achieve those goals, and you see success along the way that should be enough. A person character is way more important than any money.

What happens if breh gets laid off one day and it takes him a while to find another job? You going to leave him cause the money not coming in anymore?

What is with all this traditional shyt too about women and men playing their roles in marriage too? Do some people really talk about this in relationships? Most healthy relationships I seen are people treating them like a partnership.

"I pay the bills around here, so I better have a home cook meal and clean house when I get home" is weird af to me.
 

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Dating based on income level feels so superficial to me idk.
As long as a person has goals, working hard to achieve those goals, and you see success along the way that should be enough. A person character is way more important than any mon
ey.

What happens if breh gets laid off one day and it takes him a while to find another job? You going to leave him cause the money not coming in anymore?

What is with all this traditional shyt too about women and men playing their roles in marriage too? Do some people really talk about this in relationships? Most healthy relationships I seen are people treating them like a partnership.

"I pay the bills around here, so I better have a home cook meal and clean house when I get home" is weird af to me.
I mean there are limits. If one person makes 50K and the other makes 150K there is lot of differences that are tough to overcome building the relationship.
 

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Sounds like it was her lack of effort as opposed to the dollar amount. Of course he’s going to be looking for new chicks so sleep with.
Nah, from everything he told us, she made effort. I just think the difference is that masculine effort is not going to look like feminine effort. A woman might not put up big dollars but if she's constantly checking on you, wanting to see you and be up under you, planning shyt for yall to do together, buying gifts and little shyt she know you like, cooking for you, cleaning your spot...these are green flags. Gotta be cognizant of that and not think that just because your woman isn't doing the exact same shyt you're doing to show effort, that she's not showing effort.
 

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Nah, from everything he told us, she made effort. I just think the difference is that masculine effort is not going to look like feminine effort. A woman might not put up big dollars but if she's constantly checking on you, wanting to see you and be up under you, planning shyt for yall to do together, buying gifts and little shyt she know you like, cooking for you, cleaning your spot...these are green flags. Gotta be cognizant of that and not think that just because your woman isn't doing the exact same shyt you're doing to show effort, that she's not showing effort.
Very fair
 

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Everyone gets online and tells BW to date damn near homeless men. Just take any old bum off the street just to say you have a man but then when his worthless ass uses you, it's your fault because you should have known better. I am so glad BW are waking up to this nonsense. The "Fund a Bum Foundation" is working over time to get BW back in the box. Luckily BW are beginning to see the light.
bm make more than bw. are black women bums?

its wild that sex workers even have the gall to open there fukking mouth about relationships :pachaha:
 

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I mean there are limits. If one person makes 50K and the other makes 150K there is lot of differences that are tough to overcome building the relationship.
What are the differences?

If I made 150k I would date a Mcdonalds worker as long as she has a good soul and higher goals. Shyt even if she just loved working at Mcdonalds for some reason for the rest of her life I would still date her if I really liked her.

I think it's more proper to date someone who fits your lifestyle, not income.
 

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Nah, from everything he told us, she made effort. I just think the difference is that masculine effort is not going to look like feminine effort. A woman might not put up big dollars but if she's constantly checking on you, wanting to see you and be up under you, planning shyt for yall to do together, buying gifts and little shyt she know you like, cooking for you, cleaning your spot...these are green flags. Gotta be cognizant of that and not think that just because your woman isn't doing the exact same shyt you're doing to show effort, that she's not showing effort.
This ish is lowkey patronizing though.

She's not spending money like that and apparently he's not either so she bounced, and yet he flubbed it?

Nah, sounds more like he sniffed her out and she dashed on him.

He's a VP who's single so he probably has a weekly let in service in terms of clean-up(my cousins uncle by marriage was a VP for a local Fleet bank back in the day so I know this stuff).
Did she have a decent job herself or was he dating well below his social status?

I knew who was really riding for me just off the strength of how little I had to do to impress them.

When you get a dog/cat, you're hurrying home just to see them because just being with them is all you need.
You don't need to do doggy photoshoots or white parties, just having their head on your lap is enough.

Basically what did she spend her money on?

Because that's what she treasures.
 
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