Tyrese Protesting In Front Of A White Radio Station For Not Playing Black Artist Music

[Maximus Rex]

Tyrese need to go pop or

That Shame record sound like something my 60 year old Aunt would listen to

 

[RatherUnique]

Stop lumping Sam Smith with Timberlake Timberlake was in Nsync when he was Sam Smith age

 

[KOohbt]

You mean black people?

 

[KOohbt]

You mean black people?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Now you are just arguing for the sake of arguing lol, now it's D'angelo one of the most complex stars out that's the benchmark.

D"angelo is pure Soul

We are talking about radio here, he does not make music for radio and he's not tripping about it either.

If a white person made the same songs, they would play on white radio. The song below, which is very soulful, would not play on white radio if a black person did it

If this is just "a little more soul" than Rihanna



Then I don't know what to say, she is singing from her heart. That's why these scorned women die for her.

I agree but then again, I've never heard that song on the radio. One thing I forgot to mention is Radio Formta style.

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[IllmaticDelta]

This is what it comes down to for me. We can't keep begging white people for acceptance on their platforms. It's like coming into someone else's house and asking to move the furniture around.

The thing is, white consumers actually is where you get the big sells at, not blacks and latinos. "Crossing Over" means, reaching white people and you can't do that as much while being played on "black" radio.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

This is not about race, it's about what's hot and what isn't. R&B is dead outside of a handful of artists...and the only reason those artists are big today is because they've mixed it with pop and EDM. There's a reason Beyonce isn't doing stuff like Me Myself & I anymore.

Contemporary R&B (80s to present) has always had many substyles that had HipHop, Disco-dance-synthy (EDM) to deep Soul influenced sounds.














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"Treasure" by Bruno Mars was an 80's throwback




....if a "black" artist made this same song it would have never got played

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The double standard is that a "black" artist can't blow by taking it retro/to its roots




but a "white" person easily can




retro w/ somehiphop




early 60's r&Bish

Urban radio isn't really playing Tyrese either. Or Jill Scott, or Alicia Keys, etc etc etc.

107.5 WBLS - Your #1 Source for R&B

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[Harry B]

D"angelo is pure Soul




If a white person made the same songs, they would play on white radio. The song below, which is very soulful, would not play on white radio if a black person did it







I agree but then again, I've never heard that song on the radio. One thing I forgot to mention is Radio Formta style.

Adult contemporary music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rhythmic contemporary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wow you just compared Hozier to D'angelo. Hozier is like pop, blues and indie rock, and show me a major label black dude who does that type of shyt. Also note that both him and Sam Smith are from the UK and blew up in several places around the world before they got picked up in the states. Same goes for Adele and Ed Sheeran. Perhaps the UK just happens to be good at dropping songs that fit in pop radio.


And D'angelo is not pure soul, he's neo soul first and foremost. Followed by soul and R&B, then some funk and psychedelic-funk/rock. In any event it's PPP radio, it's about finding very simple tunes that as many people as possible can enjoy. Tyrese doesn't have the joints that a whole family sings along to on a road trip.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Wow you just compared Hozier to D'angelo. Hozier is like pop, blues and indie rock, and show me a major label black dude who does that type of shyt.

Also note that both him and Sam Smith are from the UK and blew up in several places around the world before they got picked up in the states. Same goes for Adele and Ed Sheeran. Perhaps the UK just happens to be good at dropping songs that fit in pop radio.

Estelle attacks 'blindness to black talent'

She is at number one in the singles charts and will shortly release what has been described as a must-have album, but the singer Estelle has hit out what she sees as blindness in the British media and music industry to black talent. In today's Film and Music, the 28-year-old, originally from west London, questions the promotion of an overwhelmingly white generation of young British singers, even those performing "black" soul music.

Singling out Adele and Duffy, who she knocked off the number one spot at the weekend, she says: "I'm not mad at them, but I'm wondering - how the hell is there not a single black person in the press singing soul? Adele ain't soul. She sounds like she heard some Aretha records once, and she's got a deeper voice - that don't mean she's soul. That don't mean nothing to me in the grand scheme of my life as a black person. As a songwriter, I get what they do. As a black person, I'm like: you're telling me this is my music? fukk that!"

Estelle had a breakthrough hit in 2004 with 1980, a gritty, inventive and acclaimed account of her upbringing. "There is a fashion for YWFs - young white females," said Paul McKenzie, editor of the urban music magazine Touch. "They are the ones who are given the money and the time, and most importantly, people are patient with them. Duffy, if she hadn't had this hit, would have been given a second chance, and a third. Estelle wasn't. The people who hold the purse strings are looking at trends rather than talent. If you're not a young white female - in other words if you're black - I can imagine that is incredibly depressing."

Estelle attacks 'blindness to black talent'

Estelle Lets It Rip On Adele and Duffy: “Is There Not a Single Black Person Singing Soul?”

Estelle may have the No. 1 song in the UK right now, but she still has some issues with the British music industry. The London-born, New York-based singer-songwriter recently did an interview with The Guardian, and she gets heated about white-girl “soul” divas Adele and Duffy:

“It’s hilarious,” she says, speaking at the height of Duffy/Adele media mania a few weeks back. “I’m not mad at ’em – but I’m just wondering, how the hell is there not a single black person in the press singing soul? Adele ain’t soul. She sounds like she heard some Aretha records once and she’s got a deeper voice – that don’t mean she’s soul. That don’t mean nothing to me in the grand scheme of my life as a black person. As a songwriter, I get what they do. As a black person, I’m like: you’re telling ME this is MY music? F*** that! They keep trying to tell me in the media what soul music is and I’m like, we KNOW what soul music is, stop f***ing around with us! You’re taking the piss out of every black person in the country! And then they say, ‘Oh, don’t bring race into it.’ We’re not stupid, stop it.” Having begun sarcastically and dismissively, Estelle’s eyes are now blazing, and she smacks her fist into her palm to emphasise her point. “We. Ain’t. Blind.”

Estelle has an intimate understanding of the ups-and-downs of the UK music scene: her first album came out in 2004, and while her work was acclaimed, she quickly faded off the airwaves. It was only after she moved to the U.S. – when she hooked up with the likes of Kanye West and John Legend – that she’s had any success in her home country. It had to have been difficult to watch lesser singers like Adele, Duffy, and Gabriella Cilmi blow up before they even had records out. And she’s right: Adele ain’t soul. Duffy is about as soulful as Miley Cyrus.

Black artists in Britain have it tough. Britain’s soul heritage is largely blue-eyed. White Brits like Mick Jagger, Paul Weller, and Rod Stewart absorbed the blues, Motown, and Philly soul and made them their own, applying the forms to their own experiences. Coming from the creative fountain of African-American culture, black music in the States is viewed as hipper and more authentic. And the biggest African-American artists – the Beyoncés, the Kanyes, the Ushers, the Mary J. Bliges – are backed by the massive U.S. record company machines. They bring their buzz and pop-culture cachet with them when they come to the British shores. Black Brits can’t compete. It’s sad and ironic, but black British artists may have to leap the pond like Estelle did if they want to be stars in their native country. Kind of goes in the face of the idea that Brits are more tolerant, doesn’t it?

Estelle Lets It Rip On Adele and Duffy: “Is There Not a Single Black Person Singing Soul?”

 

[Harry B]

Estelle attacks 'blindness to black talent'



Estelle attacks 'blindness to black talent'

Estelle Lets It Rip On Adele and Duffy: “Is There Not a Single Black Person Singing Soul?”



Estelle Lets It Rip On Adele and Duffy: “Is There Not a Single Black Person Singing Soul?”

I don't know about Estelle's experience or career. The only song I fukked with from her was American Boy. I don't know what the fukk that has to do with anything.
Also black people in the UK are as far removed from soul as white people. They are not from the U.S.. So statistically speaking 3% of their singers should be black, im prepared to say that they are overrepresented.

My point was that there's more cac Brits than cac Americans in the RnB/soul pop scene.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I don't know about Estelle's experience or career. The only song I fukked with from her was American Boy. I don't know what the fukk that has to do with anything.

Estelle was talking about the machine that keeps promoting them blue eyed soul acts...the same machine that has ever white person doing "black" music allover the charts

Also black people in the UK are as far removed from soul as white people. They are not from the U.S..

The modern "black" people from the UK have been up on "black american" music since the 70's for sure.

So statistically speaking 3% of their singers should be black, im prepared to say that they are overrepresented.

Good point

My point was that there's more cac Brits than cac Americans in the RnB/soul pop scene.

British whites are better at it than white americans but you'll will come across more white american ones if you listen/check for Indie music.

 

[Edub]

My ninja

 

[yardman]

maybe nikkas will start their own radio stations now

this

 

[flo]

Tyrese drew a crowd outside iHeartRadio, part of his protest that black R&B soul artists are not played on white radio, and it got the attention of cops.
Tyrese has been on a campaign in the last few weeks, complaining that white radio will not play his song "Shame," despite the fact it hit #1 on the charts. He believes if Sam Smith, Justin Timberlake or Robin Thicke sang the same song, it would get tons of play.

Tyrese -- Protests at iHeartRadio ... Cited By Cops (VIDEO)

Welcome to 2013 Tyrese lol.

 

[PhonZhi]

Its the SOUND they chase...cause Jason Derulo and Flo-Rida have no problem getting on those stations.

Yep, Shame is a legit "black" sounding song. I cant explain it with words, you just have to know what im talking bout. It has "soul". Something white people overall lack. They wont relate to the "feel" of Shame. Singers like Tyrese, Raheem DeVaughn, Fantasia and Jennifer Hudson are legit soul singers. White people dont connect with soul music like that