Uber users in Atlanta are canceling rides with human drivers until they match with one of Waymo's self-driving cars

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Uber users in Atlanta are canceling rides with human drivers until they match with one of Waymo's self-driving cars​


By Alex Bitter

A Waymo robotaxi in Austin, TX.


Waymo began operating its robotaxi on the Uber app in Austin in March. Yomiuri Shimbun/ Reuters

  • Uber started offering rides in Waymo's self-driving cars to users in Atlanta in June.
  • Some autonomous vehicle enthusiasts say hailing a ride in one of them requires dedication.
  • Riders said they have repeatedly canceled rides with human drivers to get matched with a robotaxi.

When Atlanta resident Nate Galesic wanted to ride in one of Waymo's self-driving cars earlier this summer, it took him an hour of declining rides to get one.

The Uber app kept pairing him with human drivers, he said, even though he selected the option to indicate he preferred one of the self-driving vehicles. Eventually, Uber matched him with a Waymo, Galesic said.

In June, the ride-hailing service started offering the option to ride in autonomous vehicles in Atlanta through Uber's partnership with Waymo. It's the latest city where the company is experimenting with robotaxis as it looks to keep up with competing offerings from rivals like Tesla and Lyft.

These driverless vehicles seem to be amassing a contingent of enthusiasts who prefer them over human drivers. While Uber users cannot guarantee that they'll get a ride in a Waymo in Atlanta, some are working the system to get paired with one.

To find a Waymo, Galesic said, he has turned down about 20 human Uber drivers on average. "The fact that it's so challenging to get has turned it into a game," he said.



How one Uber rider says he's gotten 35 Waymo rides in Atlanta so far​


Since Uber started offering rides in Waymo vehicles in late June, Galesic said he's taken about 35 rides in the driverless cars. Each time, he's followed a similar process of dropping rides with human Uber drivers until the app matches him with a Waymo car.

The process is more involved than getting a self-driving car through the Waymo One app, which Galesic said he's used on trips in Phoenix and San Francisco. Waymo doesn't operate its own app in Atlanta.

Galesic told Business Insider that he's enthusiastic about the technology behind self-driving cars. He pointed to data from companies including Waymo, which makes programs that power autonomous vehicles, suggesting that self-driving cars are involved in fewer injury-causing accidents than those with a person behind the wheel.

As an assistant director for TV and film products, Galesic said he usually drives himself home after a long day on set. Not having to drive — or face judgment from a ride-hailing driver if he nods off along the way — is another benefit of autonomous vehicles, he said.

"I've always dreamt about the day when I could just pass out on the way to and from work," he said.

Uber is growing its robotaxi fleet​


Andrew Nerney, another Atlanta resident, said he has taken five trips in the self-driving cars since they became available through Uber. He said that his house is two blocks outside Uber's service area for Waymo rides, meaning that he has to take a short walk to his pickup point for the chance to catch one of the self-driving cars.

Like Galesic, Nerney said that he had to cancel multiple rides with human drivers before getting paired with a Waymo vehicle.

The five rides that Nerney did take in Waymo vehicles had a few things in common, he told Business Insider: They all traveled four miles or less, cost no more than $12, and stuck to city streets instead of going on freeways.

While the number of Waymo vehicles serving the city is likely small, Nerney said, it seems to him that they're gaining popularity with Atlantans. "Each day, I see Waymos with passengers more frequently," he said.

An Uber spokesperson said that the company has dozens of vehicles operating in Atlanta and about 100 in Austin, where it launched the partnership in March. Atlanta will have a fleet of self-driving cars that will grow to "hundreds over the next few years," the spokesperson said.

Riders can maximize their chances of being paired with a Waymo car by avoiding trips that involve freeway driving, riding outside high-demand times like nights and weekends, and making sure that their pick-up and drop-off points are within the current 65-square-mile Atlanta service area, the spokesperson said. An option in Uber's settings menu allows users to indicate that they prefer rides in a Waymo.

A Waymo spokesperson said that the company is partnering with Uber in Atlanta instead of offering rides using its own app to reach more people more quickly.



Some riders still have reservations about riding in autonomous vehicles​


Not everyone is as enthusiastic to get into a self-driving car as Galesic and Nerney are.

In the US, many riders still have reservations about the safety of self-driving cars, said Frank McCleary, a partner at consulting firm Arthur D. Little's automotive and manufacturing practice. Deadly accidents involving self-driving vehicles are one reason that potential riders might be wary, McCleary said.

"That negative news cycle has sort of pushed some folks away from it," he told Business Insider.

In one survey conducted by Arthur D. Little last year, US respondents said by a 17-percentage point margin that they did not — and would not — use a fully or semi-autonomous car.

However, most of the survey's respondents who reside in cities with at least 1 million people — the kind of dense, urban environments that ride-hailing services and autonomous-car-makers have focused on so far — said that they had or would take a ride in a self-driving car.

Galesic thinks more people will become comfortable riding in self-driving cars over time, much like it took years for smartphones to become ubiquitous after the introduction of the iPhone in 2007, he said.

"New tech doesn't become massively adopted overnight," he said. "It takes a long time."
 

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Commented on Sun Aug 17 16:23:47 2025 UTC

Uber will come out with a guarantee of getting a robo taxi for an extra fee in 3, 2, 1...


│ Commented on Sun Aug 17 16:59:23 2025 UTC

│ It's funny because getting rid of the driver is supposed to be cheaper.

│ Instead riders will pay more and companies make more profit.

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│ │ Commented on Sun Aug 17 18:44:05 2025 UTC
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│ │ Right now driverless taxis are super new. Cost of development is a massive factor.
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│ │ Fast forward ten or twenty years when the technology is matured, the development costs have been recouped, and there’s a dozen companies offering driverless taxis. That’s a very different business model.
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Commented on Sun Aug 17 17:03:33 2025 UTC

Waymo is priced better currently. When I was in SF it was consistently $10-20 cheaper per ride to take the Waymo, and you don't have to tip.


│ Commented on Sun Aug 17 18:20:48 2025 UTC

│ I’ve seen the light. It is going to be the tipping culture that will make people accept ai and clankers as drivers, servers etc.
 

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This is a great option for women who don’t wanna have to deal with creepy uber drivers.

It’s unfortunate that it’s necessary as it takes away the human experience, but it’s very understandable.

And it definitely doesn’t mean the attempts to replace the human element in general within itself ain’t problematic, because it is.
 

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I did Uber as a 22 year old in Los Angeles and this was back in the suit and tie days, people would actually give you bad ratings for not talking to them during the drive - that was legitimate feedback received

People are buying a service from a service operator that is doing the service of picking someone up and bringing then A to B - and people still have the audacity to be like “but he didn’t talk to me, he’s obligated to talk to me” so I need to talk to you but a female driver can hit the sexual harassment button if they touch her … as if my sense of sound is worth less than another’s sense of touch
 

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Important option to have.

The attacks on the jobs of humans in general is problematic
The eradication of human value in the workplace is inevitable

The currently discussed solutions range from population control to universal basic income with subversive population control (examples include poisoning population to advance infertility rates to world wide pandemic proportions)
 
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From a security standpoint, it's low-key horrifying. And I'm not talking about randomly crashing either.


Imagine an adversary like Russia or China hacking their system and holding hundreds of thousands of passengers hostage. Those hilostile govts and their flunkies like the Lazarus group and fancy bear routinely hack into the super secure federal govt and DOD servers, so the servers of a silly driving app will be childsplay. So imagine their leverage once Uber or Waymo are hacked externally or compromised from inside.


And these tech companies operate under a "move fast and break things" motto so I'm sure there are all sorts of security vulnerabilities.
 

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Just tells me they ain't got nowhere to be........if that becomes prevalent it wont be worth the gas and they will pull them aas the few cars they have trying to travel extreme to extreme wont be profitable for they greedy asses.......or they will just place a further premium on them
 

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A self drive car isn’t going to 1 star you because you didn’t tip well or didn’t say good morning or accidentally slammed the door - bottom line ..
 

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that part
Even funnier now how the tipping thing is so far outta pocket, but then I talk to some workers and places and they straight up tell me don't tip because they don't get the tips........

So corporate goes habitual line stepper with tip options, the workers get the blame and nobody complains when the robots come in........how they gonna explain still having the tip option then because they ain't never going back on that
 

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Even funnier now how the tipping thing is so far outta pocket, but then I talk to some workers and places and they straight up tell me don't tip because they don't get the tips........

So corporate goes habitual line stepper with tip options, the workers get the blame and nobody complains when the robots come in........how they gonna explain still having the tip option then because they ain't never going back on that
I wouldn't be surprised if these corporations shamelessly add tipping back to the AI menu once it's all automated . :russ:




You just know they're counting on some fool out here to be tipping Jarvis for good AI conversation during the drive. :mjlol:
 
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