Unpopular Opinion: I Agree With Dana White On Soccer(least talented sport)

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After a while basketball weeds you out because of physical traits. Soccer does the same to a degree (speed and physical robustness is importnant)
OP is wrong, soccer requires insane skill and talent, but let's not bring physical traits into this :mjlol:

Compared to athletes in the NBA, NFL, T&F, etc. they are dogshyt physically :mjlol:
 

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That's because scoring off a "bounce" off a player as you call it is skillful. Anyone who's played soccer knows that because the field is larger than most of the other sports we're discussing, it's easier to miss because of a keeper, and also because you have significantly less control over your feet/legs than your hand.

Can't do 70-yard touch because that's offside, bicycle kick is skillful but a different set of skills. It's very situational.
I want to reiterate I never said soccer wasn’t a skill sport or it takes no skill. I just place more value in ambipedal-ness (controlling the ball with either foot with equal skill) than dumping the ball in the box and hoping for a ricochet—which I see how a lot of these goals are being scored

and let’s be honest a lot of these crosses be shit or the receiver of the cross can’t handle it.
 

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bytch I am an amateur competitor 5-1 I ain’t worried about some flabby nerd who hits the pads every once n awhile n don’t spar atleast 3 to 5 days a week :russ:. I don’t even box n can tell ur boxing knowledge null just from that normie ass post.

What kind of Rick James crackhead ass posting is this? Brehs can't even keep up with their lies from sentence to sentence. :mjlol:
 

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Guarantee you won't post yourself sparring or a link to your amateur record.

Because both don't exist.

My fighter profile


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They don’t count my disqualification win, which is fair

“I box” lmfaoo yeah okay bucko every nikka on earth hits a bag every once in awhile maybe hits the gym for a class or a sparring session every now and then don’t make you a boxer.
 

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I want to reiterate I never said soccer wasn’t a skill sport or it takes no skill. I just place more value in ambipedal-ness (controlling the ball with either foot with equal skill) than dumping the ball in the box and hoping for a ricochet—which I see how a lot of these goals are being scored

and let’s be honest a lot of these crosses be shit or the receiver of the cross can’t handle it.

You're absolutely correct.

The average soccer players foot skill is complete garbage.

Soccer has a 5v5 variation/cousin sport like basketball which is even played on an NBA sized court.

The average soccer player cannot even play this variation because they are played in smaller sized courts with the games being faster than the ones played on the fields, this means if you cannot immediately and properly control the ball at high speed in tight spaces, immediately decision make (high in game iq), precisely pass and you cannot play.

This is actual skill and talent.

That's why I laugh when you have poster in this thread say "soccer players need to be elite" if they were and this was true then EVERY soccer player would have perfect control and manipulation of the ball like in the variation I mentioned. Instead outside of 5% of players in soccer where they play on a field you do not see that.

So if the average player cannot perfectly control the ball, cannot perfectly dribble, cannot pass outside of basic passes which are done at a slower speed but can still play how they hell do you need be "skilled" or "talented"? how is this "elite" :unimpressed:
 

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Soccer is a great sport and I think a foundational sport where you can leap into other sports because the footwork and conditioning developed are top notch. But there are definitely positions on the field where you can be hidden if you aren’t skilled. Mainly striker, goal keeper and dbacks.

That's changing. Centerbacks that can't pass or dribble are being phased out or exposed. Nearly every keeper needs to know how to play out from the back (which is why Joe Hart couldn't find a job in England after City).

While true #9s are coming back into fashion, they still need to know how to strike with both feet, and play one touch football. There's a reason why Oliver Giroud went from obscure Premier League super-sub, to World Cup winning Center Forward and top scorer for France. He's also got one of the nicest first touches in World Football.
Look at the difference between him and Lukaku and tell me that touch/skill play no factor in that.


If there's ONE position that requires more athleticism than skill, it's wingback/fullback. And even then you have to know how to put in a cross.
 

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I want to reiterate I never said soccer wasn’t a skill sport or it takes no skill. I just place more value in ambipedal-ness (controlling the ball with either foot with equal skill) than dumping the ball in the box and hoping for a ricochet—which I see how a lot of these goals are being scored

and let’s be honest a lot of these crosses be shit or the receiver of the cross can’t handle it.
Well, that's a world cup thing. When teams only have 7 games max to determine who wins the tournament, they're going to make risky shots, one-touch passes, etc. You can't rely on control all the time in this type of tournament because a tie can get you disqualified after two games. Plus, I believe too much time spent dribbling is something that's become frowned upon in soccer nowadays, it's a team sport for a reason and lots of dribbling opens you up to losing the ball.

Keep in mind, that taking good shots is a skill that has to be learned. You can see this with how badly some teams did in penalties where people who aren't great strikers are made to shoot. It's like how Steff curry making threes is a skill he cultivated but every NBA player can't easily do it.

You're absolutely correct.

The average soccer players foot skill is complete garbage.

Soccer has a 5v5 variation/cousin sport like basketball which is even played on an NBA sized court.

The average soccer player cannot even play this variation because they are played in smaller sized courts with the games being faster than the ones played on the fields, this means if you cannot immediately and properly control the ball at high speed in tight spaces, immediately decision make (high in game iq), precisely pass and you cannot play.

This is actual skill and talent.

That's why I laugh when you have poster in this thread say "soccer players need to be elite" if they were and this was true then EVERY soccer player would have perfect control and manipulation of the ball like in the variation I mentioned. Instead outside of 5% of players in soccer where they play on a field you do not see that.

So if the average player cannot perfectly control the ball, cannot perfectly dribble, cannot pass outside of basic passes which are done at a slower speed but can still play how they hell do you need be "skilled" or "talented"? how is this "elite" :unimpressed:
This is a dumb point. Indoor soccer is not the same as Outdoor soccer. The former is more chaotic because of tight spaces. You are bytching that the necessary experience in one variation of a sport isn't shown in the primary way it is played. That's why the indoor guys aren't as good when they play in the field.
 

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This is a dumb point. Indoor soccer is not the same as Outdoor soccer. The former is more chaotic because of tight spaces. You are bytching that the necessary experience in one variation of a sport isn't shown in the primary way it is played. That's why the indoor guys aren't as good when they play in the field.

It's not a dumb point, Indoor 5v5 soccer is harder and requires actual skill and actual in game IQ.

You cannot play unless you have elite control and manipulation of the ball.

5% of soccer players who play in the field can play indoors because they actually have elite foot control, can actually play in tight spaces comfortably, can actually dribble and have high in game IQ and the ability to think ahead and make fast decisions. The average field soccer player cannot do that. If they could they would all have elite control of the ball in tight spaces on the actual field. Instead when on the field they need to hit the ball into a space and then use their speed and athleticism to catch up to the ball. Meanwhile the actual players who can dribble will just weave directly through players.

No the indoor players lack the conditioning and athleticism to play on the field. Talent and skill wise they are superior to 95% of the field players. That's why the soccer players who are able to combine the two are undisputedly the best in the sport and dominate their peers.
 

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1. This gets brought up every 4 years
2. Even if you don't like the sport, stop getting on your soapboxes sounding like Jim Rome in the 90's
3. Thought more physical, Hockey is essentially the same as Soccer in terms of scoring, ties/draws and the points system
4. Like another poster said, every sport has their own uniqueness about them
5. If some of y'all feel that way, try telling those folks yourself when they come over for Copa America 2024 and World Cup 2026, y'all n-gga's gonna end up looking like a Columbian hit job during the Pablo Escobar years
 

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OP is wrong, soccer requires insane skill and talent, but let's not bring physical traits into this :mjlol:

Compared to athletes in the NBA, NFL, T&F, etc. they are dogshyt physically :mjlol:

No real skill is required to play American sports with the exception of basketball..they identify guys simply by their physical appearance even before touching a ball :mjlol:

In soccer its 100% about skill, not how tall or huge you are. That's what makes it great and the whole world can play, not just dudes who are 7 foot tall or weight 500 pounds.
Saying NFL requires skill on the level of soccer is like saying Sumo wrestling isnt just 2 fat guys bumping and grinding :dame:

Why you think no one beyond America watches the NFL..
 
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