Unpopular Opinion: Kendrick Lamar’s discography has already surpassed Jay Z, Nas and Kanye.

[Budda]

In j

if you think those albums are better than DAMN then to each his own.

GKMC or TPAB would probably clear any nas album. i don't want to disrespect illmatic because of its impact but i think most hip-hop heads would understand if you say GKMC/TPAB > illmatic.

The only people who would take TPAB over Illmatic are vegan animal kissing cacs, if you think King Kunta or Alright is better than Memory Lane then I don’t want to hear your opinion on things relating to Hip Hop.

The same people who would put TPAB over Illmatic are the same people who have look down on Hip Hop as an art form for over 30 years. Hip Hop has nothing to prove to these types, what Kendrick done on certain albums is not new and has been done before by the likes of Mos Def, Outkast, Tribe, De La Soul and others without the constant dikk sucking.

 

[spliz]

In j


The only people who would take TPAB over Illmatic are vegan animal kissing cacs, if you think King Kunta or Alright is better than Memory Lane then I don’t want to hear your opinion on things relating to Hip Hop.

The same people who would put TPAB over Illnayic are the same people who have look down on Hip Hop as an art form for over 30 years. Hip Hop has nothing to prove to these types, what Kendrick done on certain albums is not new and has been done before by the likes of Mos Def, Outkast, Tribe, De La Soul and others without the constant dikk sucking.

This nikka inherited the pretentious crowd and I been tryna warn nikkas for years where it was gonna lead. Problem is these nikkas treating Kendrick like he IS hip hop rather than being a part of it.

 

[Budda]

This nikka inherited the pretentious crowd and I been tryna warn nikkas for years where it was gonna lead. Problem is these nikkas treating Kendrick like he IS hip hop rather than being a part of it.

By far the worst crowd in rap, alongside Rock loving Eminem fans who only listen to rap when Em drops and will still have opinion as him being the GOAT.

That pretentious weirdo hipster cac crowd that has followed OutKast Kanye and now Kendrick, looking down on anything to do with what Hip Hop really stands for are the worst, they’ll prop up rap artists who try to think they’re above rap and delve into other genres, like rap is not a child of these same genres naturally. It’s pretentious bullshyt that comes from a place of not respecting rap as an art form.

Memory Lane is better than every song on any of Kendrick’s last 4 albums.

 

[Midwest]

Kendrick is a severly overrated hip hop artist because this generation loves to gas up any above average shyt. Be it music, sports, art, culture etc.

Case in point, Kendrick was ill when he came out with Overly Dedicated, Section 80, Good kid Maad city and to a lesser extent, To pimp a butterfly.

He has been on a precipitous decline since then, while mainstream media shines his knob over mediocre projects and idiots believe the hype.


Kendrick's discograhy surpassed Nas? Loony toons

“Severely overrated” “precipitous decline”
Look at this hater shyt!!!!!! nikka said he has been in a decline when the complete opposite has happen to him over the past year! Got the nerve to say loony toons……..”hype” you are fukking dumbass man

 

[Piff Perkins]

His discography is hard to top at this point and he clearly remains relevant, which means his albums are still putting points on the board (and taking points off the board). I'm not going to make any definitive statements until it's clear he's stalled or finished when it comes to relevant/forward pushing albums.

That being said...the man has three classics and won a major rap battle. That alone is gonna put him in GOAT conversations. Not saying he's the GOAT. His grade isn't complete yet.

 

[Izanami]

he has a more consistent discography but the highs just arent at the level of a nas or ye

He’s rewarded for coming up in a weaker era.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

In j


The only people who would take TPAB over Illmatic are vegan animal kissing cacs, if you think King Kunta or Alright is better than Memory Lane then I don’t want to hear your opinion on things relating to Hip Hop.

The same people who would put TPAB over Illmatic are the same people who have look down on Hip Hop as an art form for over 30 years. Hip Hop has nothing to prove to these types, what Kendrick done on certain albums is not new and has been done before by the likes of Mos Def, Outkast, Tribe, De La Soul and others without the constant dikk sucking.

I agree. As soon as someone says Kendrick has anything better than Illmatic or RD, I promise to never trust their opinion on anything music related again for the rest of my life.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

He’s rewarded for coming up in a weaker era.

Exactly. When Illmatic dropped in 94, it is seen as one of the top 5 years in all of hip hop history. When RD dropped, it was ignored and overshadowed that summer by Nas and Outkast 2nd releases. Back then, you had 2 or 3 classics dropping the same day. Now labels strategically plan to release their albums on dates with little to no competition. Jay and Nas came up in the SAME EXACT ERA with Pac, Biggie, Wutang, Dre, Snoop, Geto Boys, etc. Kendrick's competition is singing ass Drake, confused J Cole (who doesn't know if he wants to do hip hop, trap, or sing), the Migos, Future, and a bunch of artists that come and go after 1 or 2 albums. These eras are not alike.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Kendrick doesn’t have STREET classics.

You shyt in the streets

 

[DaHNIC82]

Fukk no and I fux with Kendrick

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

His discography is hard to top at this point and he clearly remains relevant, which means his albums are still putting points on the board (and taking points off the board). I'm not going to make any definitive statements until it's clear he's stalled or finished when it comes to relevant/forward pushing albums.

That being said...the man has three classics and won a major rap battle. That alone is gonna put him in GOAT conversations. Not saying he's the GOAT. His grade isn't complete yet.

Don't do that

Breh could have a hundred classics, win a hundred major battles, create the new black national anthem, negotiate a deal for reparations, and handwrite the sequel to the Bible in the blood of Jesus

And it still wouldn't be enough to let these nikkas tell it

"But, but, but I'm a business maaaan "

 

[FlyGuy]

Yes and No. Kendrick is making a different type of album, he’s a different type of artist. He raps but he has the benefit of coming up in an era where it’s not just straight spitting.

 

[Iverson_64]

Kendrick doesn’t have STREET classics.

Not true.

GKMC and GNX have that type of appeal.

But it's still hard to compare because Kendrick's approach is different than Jay's and Nas's and it's more similar to Outkast or prime Kanye when it comes to blending avant garde musical and conceptual elements with hip hop.

Jay and Nas did experiment with their music but they did so in a very traditional hip hop manner. As such, it's tough to compare their catalogs by the same metrics.

Let's compare Stillmatic with DAMN for example.

Not only are their vibes very different but Stillmatic was a creative exercise of lyrical songwriting that cemented Nas as a top tier lyricist while DAMN was super conceptually themed and pushed more musical boundaries.

However, Stillmatic got panned by Cacs and non-rap critics who basically penalized it for not being Illmatic 2.0 or some of the beat selection. Does that make Stillmatic a "worse" album than DAMN though?

On paper, yes because Cacs, critics, and fans of more experimental and musical rap favor DAMN far more. However, Stillmatic is still one of the most impactful rap albums of the 2000's, giving us "Ether", having classic rap songs like Rewind, 2nd Childhood, and One Mic, and showcasing some of Nas's best spitting and songwriting.

Also, I would argue that Humble is just as bad as Braveheart Party in terms of quality even though the former was clowned for years while Humble still remains a commercial hit that's Kendrick's biggest. Hence, more people dikkride Humble due to the numbers.

By no means am I saying one album is better than the other but I'm offering a POV for why people will still hold Nas's catalog higher. It's not always about the critics, the mainstream appeal, and the Grammy's.

Overall, if we're strictly going off of acclaim and consistency based on those metrics, then Kendrick objectively has the best catalog in the history of the whole genre and there's no point in arguing in favor of a rapper who reached high highs but dropped a dud at one point. That obviously makes the discussion boring to have though. It reminds me of the bandwagon Steph fans in 2015 who were calling him the GOAT solely off of his shooting percentages and nothing else.

 

[ISO]

Not true.

GKMC and GNX have that type of appeal.

But it's still hard to compare because Kendrick's approach is different than Jay's and Nas's and it's more similar to Outkast or prime Kanye when it comes to blending avant garde musical and conceptual elements with hip hop.

Jay and Nas did experiment with their music but they did so in a very traditional hip hop manner. As such, it's tough to compare their catalogs by the same metrics.

Let's compare Stillmatic with DAMN for example.

Not only are their vibes very different but Stillmatic was a creative exercise of lyrical songwriting that cemented Nas as a top tier lyricist while DAMN was super conceptually themed and pushed more musical boundaries.

However, Stillmatic got panned by Cacs and non-rap critics who basically penalized it for not being Illmatic 2.0 or some of the beat selection. Does that make Stillmatic a "worse" album than DAMN though?

On paper, yes because Cacs, critics, and fans of more experimental and musical rap favor DAMN far more. However, Stillmatic is still one of the most impactful rap albums of the 2000's, giving us "Ether", having classic rap songs like Rewind, 2nd Childhood, and One Mic, and showcasing some of Nas's best spitting and songwriting.

Also, I would argue that Humble is just as bad as Braveheart Party in terms of quality even though the former was clowned for years while Humble still remains a commercial hit that's Kendrick's biggest. Hence, more people dikkride Humble due to the numbers.

By no means am I saying one album is better than the other but I'm offering a POV for why people will still hold Nas's catalog higher. It's not always about the critics, the mainstream appeal, and the Grammy's.

Overall, if we're strictly going off of acclaim and consistency based on those metrics, then Kendrick objectively has the best catalog in the history of the whole genre and there's no point in arguing in favor of a rapper who reached high highs but dropped a dud at one point. That obviously makes the discussion boring to have though. It reminds me of the bandwagon Steph fans in 2015 who were calling him the GOAT solely off of his shooting percentages and nothing else.

Kendrick gets away with murder.

There’s nothing he can drop that won’t be critically acclaimed. It doesn’t matter if he sings poorly, it doesn’t matter if his messaging is hypocritical or contradictory, it doesn’t matter if he has Mexicans saying the n-word, it doesn’t matter if he mails it in lyrically.

Meanwhile, dudes like Hov lost points on Reasonable Doubt by critics due to shyt like misogyny and originality.

Nas got killed for “Who Killed It” but it’s cool for Kendrick to make a “This dikk ain’t Free”. Humble was terrible and one of the most botted songs I’ve seen when it dropped.

This post is on point as well as the one who called his shyt “pop art”.

 

[SunZoo]

Not true.

GKMC and GNX have that type of appeal.

But it's still hard to compare because Kendrick's approach is different than Jay's and Nas's and it's more similar to Outkast or prime Kanye when it comes to blending avant garde musical and conceptual elements with hip hop.

Jay and Nas did experiment with their music but they did so in a very traditional hip hop manner. As such, it's tough to compare their catalogs by the same metrics.

Let's compare Stillmatic with DAMN for example.

Not only are their vibes very different but Stillmatic was a creative exercise of lyrical songwriting that cemented Nas as a top tier lyricist while DAMN was super conceptually themed and pushed more musical boundaries.

However, Stillmatic got panned by Cacs and non-rap critics who basically penalized it for not being Illmatic 2.0 or some of the beat selection. Does that make Stillmatic a "worse" album than DAMN though?

On paper, yes because Cacs, critics, and fans of more experimental and musical rap favor DAMN far more. However, Stillmatic is still one of the most impactful rap albums of the 2000's, giving us "Ether", having classic rap songs like Rewind, 2nd Childhood, and One Mic, and showcasing some of Nas's best spitting and songwriting.

Also, I would argue that Humble is just as bad as Braveheart Party in terms of quality even though the former was clowned for years while Humble still remains a commercial hit that's Kendrick's biggest. Hence, more people dikkride Humble due to the numbers.

By no means am I saying one album is better than the other but I'm offering a POV for why people will still hold Nas's catalog higher. It's not always about the critics, the mainstream appeal, and the Grammy's.

Overall, if we're strictly going off of acclaim and consistency based on those metrics, then Kendrick objectively has the best catalog in the history of the whole genre and there's no point in arguing in favor of a rapper who reached high highs but dropped a dud at one point. That obviously makes the discussion boring to have though. It reminds me of the bandwagon Steph fans in 2015 who were calling him the GOAT solely off of his shooting percentages and nothing else.

I was right with you til you said Humble was as bad as Braveheart party