UPDATE: Chinese protesting for Peter Liangl CHINESE PROTESTER INTERVIEW IN OP

[Cave Savage]

The "model minority" concept arose in the 1960s during the height of Civil Rights/Black Power. Time, or some other magazine, did a report on Japanese Americans, who had higher incomes and education levels than Blacks at the time, and said they had achieved the American dream by being docile and not rocking the boat, including not backlashing on the illegal and racist internment, and supposedly "proved" that the Blacks were just bad to protest for their rights. Granted, they indirectly benefited by the fight for civil rights and that they didn't have to be on the bottom because we already were. Same story in many countries in the "New World". The model minority concept has always existed not to complement Asians but to kick us in the teeth.

Granted, there are many Asians, especially in academic circles, who refuse to abide by the BS this girl talks about. ModelMinority.com writes a lot about this and there are some interesting articles too like here:
False Friends in the Affirmative Action Debate

A lot of people forget the President of the University of California Berkeley who fought Ward Connerly when he was destroying California affirmative action in the 1990s was Asian--Chang-Lin Tien.

But back to the topic, a lot of people unfortunately eat this BS. Can't say if they are the majority but enough want approval to kick us to the curb--just like previous waves of immigrants.

Sad thing is, if we are ever gone, a lot of mofos (esp. Asians and Hispanics) would get a huge wake up call. Lots of groups succeed in the US because 1) they don't have to be at the bottom like their home country, 2) we spend money on them when many Whites won't. They can be savers, we can be spenders, and the wealth transfers


"In race talk the move into mainstream America always means buying into the notion of American blacks as the real aliens. Whatever the ethnicity or nationality of the immigrant, his nemesis is understood to be African Americans.
-Toni Morrison, "On the Backs of Blacks"

No I'm aware that about the bs concerning the "model minority" label. I've always thought of it as more of a knock to black people ("they can do it so why can't you?) rather than genuine respect for Asians. But the reality is, while Asians have certainly went through their own hardships in the US, the situation with black people (chattel slavery and Jim Crow) is unique.

And that's a good point, a lot of these Asian, Latino, Arab, etc. immigrants who open corner stores wouldn't make nearly as much money without black people to sell to.

 

[duckbutta]

People saying this was an accident must not know what really happened

I would call a cop who goes into a building after his supervisor tells him not to...then shoots his weapon toward the first black man he sees (the ricochet shyt is only because his aim was that fukking bad) and then after he shoots the guy calls the nypd UNION REP before he calls 911...murder.

I'm disgusted he only getting 5 - 15...should be getting 25 to life

 

[Supa]

They got a point to a degree. All these white cops getting away with murder yet this dude gets manslaughter for a bullet bouncing off a wall in a dark alley and killing someone. Not saying he shouldn't be punished but if he was white he wouldn't have been convicted of anything. Real talk.

Where was the Asian community when white cops were killing us and getting away with it? Did they cry foul and stand for justice.

They were silent because it wasn't their problem. Now that one of their own takes an L they're 10,000 deep protesting. They're mad that they can't get away with us too. There's no other way to spin this. There's no way this looks good. Liang was guilty as sin. They thought they were the white man's favorite so he'd extend his gratitude by letting Liang slide.

Defend the guilty, offend the innocent

 

[LV Koopa]

I'm Chinese American and I Think This Weekend's Peter Liang Protests Were a Problem, and an Opportunity

 

[YeLovesBoston]

Wow. fukkin wow.

 

[Dzali OG]

Yeah the cop was wrong and should do prison time. But of course his community should protest for him. That's called having your people's back. Something blacks can emulate.

They're protesting how white cops can have "accidents" or fear for their lives, and avoid prosecution. This is an example of white privilege and they're calling it out, as they should. Though it doesn't mean shyt to us. They should have their guys back.

 

[YeLovesBoston]

Ok well not not as quiet as church mice. Doesn't look like anywhere near 10,000 people and them protesting the conviction of a cop who wrongly killed a black person(whether by mistake or not) basically shows us that their stand against police brutality was only symbolic. Black lives obviously don't matter as much as Asian lives do to them either.

There's like 3 of them in that photo.

 

[Calmye]

nikka they kidd go to. College for. Free on you player.

I read that like a hood Yoda

 

[Doobie Doo]

 

[pon]

Chinese want in on white supremacy, protesting to have the same priveledge as white people

 

[Mac Brown]

All i have to say is welcome to our reality..

 

[Doobie Doo]

I'm Chinese American and I Think This Weekend's Peter Liang Protests Were a Problem, and an Opportunity

Ya gotta copy and paste breh

I'm Chinese American and I Think This Weekend's Peter Liang Protests Were a Problem, and an Opportunity
02/22/2016 10:46 am ET | Updated 1 day ago
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  Steph YinJournalist and educator

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I'm a proud Chinese American, but today I am disappointed by those in my community who rallied this weekend in support of Peter Liang, the NYPD officer who killed Akai Gurley and was recently convicted of second-degree manslaughter. My parents and many of their friends attended these rallies or have spoken up in support of Liang. They have stayed silent and very far away from any Black Lives Matter protests, but they find the time to pay attention and show up when it is a member of their community.

Chinese Americans are arguing that it is unjust that Liang got convicted while the many white cops who have killed unarmed Black people before him walked free. White cops such as Daniel Pantaleo, who killed Eric Garner with a chokehold, andDarren Wilson, who shot Michael Brown, are regularly acquitted of these killings. In the case of Peter Liang, there are more ambiguities. At least as the official account goes, he did not see Akai Gurley before his gun accidentally discharged and his bullet ricocheted off a wall and fatally struck Gurley. I share my parents' outrage that white cops who much more clearly targeted unarmed Black folks have somehow gotten non-indictments. I think there are clear disparities between the way Liang was treated versus the way Pantaleo was treated, particularly as Pantaleo was a veteran cop who should have known better.

But that doesn't change the fact that Akai Gurley died needlessly because of a rotten system that Liang was part of. This is a system in which police routinely conduct unwarranted public housing patrols just to look for suspicious activity, which is what Liang was doing when he shot Gurley. The facts are that Liang had his gun on the trigger when there was no imminent threat -- he was there proactively, not in response to an event -- and when he did find out that Gurley was shot, he did not immediately provide medical care. I hope that Liang's conviction is a precedent, and that we will continue to convict, instead of letting cops who kill off the hook. This is not the first time that a cop has killed a Black person during a public housing patrol and it will likely not be the last time, if we maintain the status quo. The status quo is that an unarmed Black person is killed by cops and George Zimmerman types every 28 hours in this country. Peter Liang killed someone -- a father, son a brother -- and he should be held accountable.

I asked my dad to imagine that Akai Gurley were his son, killed for nothing more than trying to enter an apartment. He immediately responded, without stopping to actually consider my question, "but imagine if Peter Liang were your son." That he was willing to consider Liang but not Gurley as his son is indicative of a broader trend I see among many (East) Asian Americans. They are angry when they see injustice against people who look like them, but not when they see injustice against Black, Latinx, and Muslim/ South Asian communities. Other people of color are dehumanized to them. Even when the injustice is stacked a human life versus a possible 15 years in prison.

I think many Asian Americans are focusing on Peter Liang as an individual instead of as part of a system that's broken. The system is made of people like Liang who, accidentally or not, feel the need to have their guns out in the absence of provocation. It's also a system in which Black folks can face life sentences for nonviolent drug crimes, while cops walk free (or serve much shorter sentences) for taking innocent lives. Where is the outrage over that discrepancy?

Many Asian Americans fail to see this systematic violence as related to them, when in fact history has taught us that white supremacy is a revolving door that deems different groups of marginalized folks as "unsafe" based on what benefits white people at the time. White people will always find new reasons to profile people of color as criminals, spies, terrorists, and so forth, and Asian Americans are not immune. When the tide of favorability turns against us, I would hope that other people of color would stand in solidarity -- just as Asian American folks need to stand in solidarity now. The flawed logic of protesting one type of racism while implicitly condoning another, far more violent type of racism is bewildering to me. I saw people in the Liang rallies this weekend holding signs that quoted Martin Luther King Jr. and bore sentences like "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." That they failed to see the irony in this escapes me.

My parents see Peter Liang as a victim of the mounting pressures of Black Lives Matter. They are calling him a "scapegoat," particularly as Akai Gurley's death happened just four months after Eric Garner's death. When I look at this situation, I see a potential for change -- change that happens case by case through activists fighting for change, through the criminal justice system, and through precedents. Liang's conviction is a step towards justice.

In the midst of tragedy, one small thing I am glad about is that this has opened up a dialogue between my parents and me -- a dialogue they are usually immediately resistant towards having. I hope that my Chinese American friends will also use this opportunity as a way to start conversations with family members. I'm a proud Chinese American, and I think it's our responsibility to challenge our silence and call attention to our role in this fight.

Follow Steph Yin on Twitter: www.twitter.com/steph_yin

 

[loyola llothta]

So much c00ning in the comment section my god

 

[H.I.M.]

Her argument doesn't make a lick of sense

Acknowledges the system as "racist & unjust" but is rallying in support of a man that partook in said system and negligently took a man's life in the process.

Claims they don't want to be included in and be beneficiaries of "white privilege"...but that's exactly why they're out there...because a chank wasn't granted "white privilege" and has to pay for his crime.
If he had got off scot free, i'm sure this lady and the 10's of thousands in her community would still be out there rallying against this "racist & unjust" system, right?

Structual & systemic racism just suddenly out of the blue pops up on the Chinese-American agenda after one of their own has to pay for a crime...and wasn't granted a "white privilege" pass.

But i do for them riding with their own right or wrong as long as no harm is being done to their community....nikkas need to ketchup.

 

[The D-List Vet]

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