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Updates to Xbox Game Pass: Introducing Essential, Premium, and Ultimate Plans (Ultimate $29.99/mo)
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In all honesty they should just quit trying to save face and simply end day one games on Game Pass that aren't smaller to medium sized titles and indie games. Rip the bandaid off now instead of dragging this out and building up al this ill will with constant price hikes. Admit Sony was right and fully copy them. They're mostly just doing a half assed job of that now with Essentials / Premium.
Now that they're arguably the biggest 3rd party publisher out there high profile day one games on Game Pass are nonsensical. At best it should be the final resting place for dead games like PlayStation Plus is.
Instead there's all this anger directed at the company because they conditioned people to a business model that failed. People weren't mad at Movie Pass when it failed they knew it was too good to be true and lived it up while they could. Instead Microsoft executives constantly lie about Game Pass and how successful it is and speak in vague unverifiable terms that don't line up with the actions the company takes.
If this is a successful profitable service you don't need to go up 50% in price and almost double the price in 2 years because you know that will negatively impact subs and the service as a whole.
Now that they're arguably the biggest 3rd party publisher out there high profile day one games on Game Pass are nonsensical. At best it should be the final resting place for dead games like PlayStation Plus is.
Instead there's all this anger directed at the company because they conditioned people to a business model that failed. People weren't mad at Movie Pass when it failed they knew it was too good to be true and lived it up while they could. Instead Microsoft executives constantly lie about Game Pass and how successful it is and speak in vague unverifiable terms that don't line up with the actions the company takes.
If this is a successful profitable service you don't need to go up 50% in price and almost double the price in 2 years because you know that will negatively impact subs and the service as a whole.
I agree with everything except that last part. (I’m not saying your wrong either) A price increase can make sense if clients exceed the server resources. Discounts can be seen as a service that’s struggling or a way to incentivize new customers. I just don’t know that a price increase is due to them dying. I believe it can lead to them dying though.
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There's nothing else they can do.
Like, do you guys think let's say they made actually made one more traditional Xbox priced at say $500~600 but then made an ACTUAL EXCLUSIVE EXCLUSIVE like the next Elder's Scroll and COD ONLY for that console without even a PC version, you think that would get some people to jump back in? Like, a hail mary type of situation. Next Halo, ONLY FOR Xbox, not even PC. Gamepass price back to $20/month but day 1 games removed.
Like, do you guys think let's say they made actually made one more traditional Xbox priced at say $500~600 but then made an ACTUAL EXCLUSIVE EXCLUSIVE like the next Elder's Scroll and COD ONLY for that console without even a PC version, you think that would get some people to jump back in? Like, a hail mary type of situation. Next Halo, ONLY FOR Xbox, not even PC. Gamepass price back to $20/month but day 1 games removed.
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
Naw one thing Phil Spencer was right about is that Xbox lost
They already tried that with starfield. Locking big games to dying hardware just hurts their bottom line and the reputation of those franchise.
All those multi platform franchises they bought are worth what they are because they’re multi platform
Imagine trying to take Minecraft off Nintendo for example. It’s prob the same as trying to take cod off playstation
All of this reminds me of the fact that Microsoft's strength has always been software and Sony has been primarily successful in the hardware space.
I'm talking about if you look at the companies at a high level across their history and all of their products.
The funny thing is how xbots have been scrambling to cope and pretend that the conversation was always "GamePass is better than Playstation 5" when we remember them yelling "XBOX Series X is better than PS5".
More to your point, Microsoft royally dropped the ball by not capitalizing on their flagship IP, most importantly of them being Halo and Gears of War.
Gears 5 and Halo Infinite were absolute duds, especially compared to their predecessors. (Ask the real fans of those games outside of the xbot defense brigade in here). I don't think anyone would really care about a new Halo or Gears at this point. COD is bleeding (which is what I told Sony stans and Xbots and neither side seemed to really believe me when they had their activision blizzard pissing match.) I guess Elder Scrolls would be a look, but is that alone a console mover?
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
I don’t know how anyone looks across the Bethesda release cadence since fallout 4 and feels hopeful that elder scrolls 6 is gonna be a landmark game.
You’d be better off putting your hopes and dreams in Larian and CDPR for large scope rpgs
Bethesda like BioWare is over
You’d be better off putting your hopes and dreams in Larian and CDPR for large scope rpgs
Bethesda like BioWare is over
Especially after Starfield. I'm not get my hoped up when ES6 drop.
I think the gamble with Starfield would've worked if the game was just better. Sony's strategy of extremely limited access to their games is risky, but it works because they happen to be fortunate to be in an extended period of quality releases hitting the market no worse than once or twice a year. I'm old enough to remember the early days of the PS3 when that wasn't the case.
Starfield wasn't the problem, halo infinite not having content at launch basically damaged the brand. You can argue making those types of games are expensive which makes sense but gamers expect fortnite level content
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Nope, I think Street Fighter V did. Not having a huge game like that on your console was the ultimate dealbreaker. I knew friends who play nothing but fight games bought a Playstation just for that one game. Plus when Final Round was out here in Atlanta, which was the first fight gaming tournament of the year before it shut down, all the casuals was playing on the 360. That was a coup de grace to the ultimate max. Final Round was on the level of Evo, Combobreaker, Nor and South Cal regiionals as if you won the tournament, got a straight bid to Capcom Cup. Not having that game on Xbox did them in completely