US arrests Maduro in his own country! Indicted in New York City court!! What the hell is going on!?

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There was a celebration in my city, they are extremely happy, people thinking they would be upsept or something clearly were not up to date with what has been happening to that country for more than a decade.

So basically people are speaking about a country they never visted nor lived in?
 

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There was a celebration in my city, they are extremely happy, people thinking they would be upsept or something clearly were not up to date with what has been happening to that country for more than a decade.
Yeah and Iraq exiles were happy when Saddam was ousted. That wasn’t the end of the story.
 

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There was a celebration in my city, they are extremely happy, people thinking they would be upsept or something clearly were not up to date with what has been happening to that country for more than a decade.
Very interesting. It would seem Trump did a good thing with this. But we know he's not doing anything for the "good"
 

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That would qualify as treason which is a death sentence. Yall n166as be too hype off this internet like its a game. Sure lets expose live u.s. military operation and go home. :dahell:
That's not how treason works. Publishing truthful information is not treason, and it is not punishable by death. That is how authoritarian systems operate. The Constitution is very clear about what treason is, and this isn't it. The role of a free press is oversight, not operational security. You're arguing for authoritarian control over information. :scusthov:
 

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There was a celebration in my city, they are extremely happy, people thinking they would be upsept or something clearly were not up to date with what has been happening to that country for more than a decade.
It's easy to see why some people might celebrate after suffering so long under a repressive government. But we can't ignore the fact that this unilateral attack on a sovereign nation was illegal and reckless. We had no right to do this.
 

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That's not how treason works. Publishing truthful information is not treason, and it is not punishable by death. That is how authoritarian systems operate. The Constitution is very clear about what treason is, and this isn't it. The role of a free press is oversight, not operational security. You're arguing for authoritarian control over information. :scusthov:
On technicality it is not treason but it is treason and whoever disclosed that to the press will get dealt with via random death.


While disclosing classified military information can lead to severe prosecution under laws like the
Espionage Act, it's rarely charged as treason (which requires aiding an enemy), and prosecuting journalists for publishing such leaks faces significant First Amendment challenges, though the government often investigates potential crimes by leakers and sometimes restricts press access to information. Journalists themselves haven't been successfully prosecuted for publishing, but those who leak information face serious charges.
Key Laws & Concepts
  • Espionage Act (18 U.S.C. § 793, 798): Most prosecutions for unauthorized disclosure of national defense information use this act, targeting those with access who share secrets with intent to harm the U.S. or benefit a foreign nation, not typically the press.
  • Treason (18 U.S.C. § 2381): A very high bar, defined as "levying war against the United States, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort". Leaking information is rarely considered treason unless directly aiding an enemy in wartime.
  • First Amendment: Protects freedom of the press, creating a legal barrier to prosecuting journalists for publishing classified information, though this is a complex legal area.
Prosecution of Leakers vs. Publishers
  • Leakers (Insiders): Government employees with access are frequently charged under the Espionage Act for leaking information.
  • Publishers (Press): While the Espionage Act doesn't exempt the press, prosecuting journalists for publishing is legally contentious and has historically been avoided, with no known successful prosecutions of publishers for printing classified info from leakers.
Government Response
  • The government uses laws like the Espionage Act to pursue leakers.
  • There have been increased efforts to restrict press access and require pre-publication approval for certain information, even unclassified, to prevent leaks.
In essence, while leaking is a serious crime, prosecuting the press for publishing it is legally difficult, but the government actively prosecutes insiders who leak, and tries to control information flow.
 

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On technicality it is not treason
You just admitted that publishing this isn't treason, isn't punishable by death, and is largely protected by the First Amendment, and then tried to argue that the press should still self-censor because the state might retaliate anyway. That's authoritarian logic.
 

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That's not how treason works. Publishing truthful information is not treason, and it is not punishable by death. That is how authoritarian systems operate. The Constitution is very clear about what treason is, and this isn't it. The role of a free press is oversight, not operational security. You're arguing for authoritarian control over information. :scusthov:

That dude you quoted is one of the dumbest posters this board. He has no fukking idea what he’s talking about. :mjlol:.
 

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You just admitted that publishing this isn't treason, isn't punishable by death, and is largely protected by the First Amendment, and then tried to argue that the press should still self-censor because the state might retaliate anyway. That's authoritarian logic.
Yes. What’s funny is you make the decision sound easy because it is not your life and livelihood on the line?

Sell out your armed forces and source (because the source will be found out) for a newspaper article? What you’re advocating for is a luxury that the man they captured doesn’t afford to his then-country.

Not even China playing those games and that’s yall new zaddy.
 

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Venezuelans are happy about it. Remember Venezuelans were apart of big part of the Latino surge in Trump support. Still doesn’t make it any less illegal and a dangerous precedent

They celebrating but they not seeing the dead bodies that the U.S. soldiers killed in this operation...:francis: innocent people... so the media not telling the full story. being obtuse as usual... When the american soldiers and corporations start killing more folks the celebrations will stop... mark my words...
 

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They celebrating but they not seeing the dead bodies that the U.S. soldiers killed in this operation...:francis: innocent people... so the media not telling the full story. being obtuse as usual... When the american soldiers and corporations start killing more folks the celebrations will stop... mark my words...
No casualties have been reported. CNN would love to report that if it was the case.
 
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