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don't shyt on my employer, breh
Tell your employer to stop shytting in the water, breh.
US Drinking Water Widely Contaminated With 'Forever Chemicals'
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Tell your employer to stop shytting in the water, breh.
Yapdatfool
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...the people
You don't think companies like Boeing are paying damages for their evil fukkery?
There's always going to be bad actors who break laws chief... my position is there should be a regulatory body that can be held accountable in some way, otherwise this will continue to be the norm.
regulatory body
private sector actorsYou the TBZ bro but your post game is like past his prime T-Rex
DuPont knew it was poisoning people for 50-60 years. The government most likely only knew for the last 10-15.Either way there will be corruption... the human condition is what it is.
My stance is, if people are going to be poisoned, i'd prefer it be by the private sector where actors who can be held accountable...
We'll see how much is paid in damages and how many govt. officials go to jail...
No one from DuPont went to jail. No one paid any personal money. I don't think they even lost their job. The stockholders paid a large fine that still did not total even a single year of Dupont's profits off Teflon alone. More is happening in the civil courts but none of it will affect the company leaders who originally made all the evil decisions. We need FAR more regulation, not less.
Watch yourself brother, they had employees whose kids were being born with their faces fukked up and shyt and they just covered it up.don't shyt on my employer, breh
DuPont and the Chemistry of Deception
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Drink water, brehs
And who's in the white house now?In 2018 a draft report from an office of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the risk level for exposure to the chemicals should be up to 10 times lower than the 70 PPT threshold the EPA recommends. The White House and the EPA had tried to stop the report from being published.
I'll never understand the trust and love of government some nikkas have.
Dude just confuses the fux out of meAnd who's in the white house now?
...and they should both be held liable.
Gov regulators are bought and paid for by private industry and any regulation will likely be penned by the entities being regulated or ignored as was the case with Boeing.
I don't believe throwing more tax payer money at it is the solution.
I believe private regulators overseen by government judiciary would be more effective.
Bad actors and incompetent/complicit regulators need to be jailed, fined, and/or sentenced to death.
And who's in the white house now?
Is the idea here that im blaming one side of the isle? The actors are irrelevant, its the systemic processes that are broken.
Ya'll really see shyt like this, say "fukking Trump" and keep it moving?
Stuff like this have been happening forever because government sets rules then the guys who put those rules in place go & work for the companies then tell them how to get around the rules
The actors are irrelevant, its the systemic processes that are broken.
Ya'll really see shyt like this, say "fukking Trump" and keep it moving?
Which is why we need the government doling out punishments only.
Asking it to regulate then punish itself when things go wrong isnt working/occuring.
What happens now is the state throws its hands up and says, "we were paid/influenced", or "we let them self regulate", and everyone turns their attention to the private sector
What are we even paying these regulators for...
...and they should both be held liable.
Gov regulators are bought and paid for by private industry and any regulation will likely be penned by the entities being regulated or ignored as was the case with Boeing.
I don't believe throwing more tax payer money at it is the solution.
I believe private regulators overseen by government judiciary would be more effective.
Bad actors and incompetent/complicit regulators need to be jailed, fined, and/or sentenced to death.
Did you read the article or not?
Dupont got away for it for 50+ years because the government didn't even know the chemical was dangerous. For a chemical that causes long-term harmful effects and not just short-term toxicity, it takes long, exhaustive, expensive studies in order to determine how harmful it is. The EPA as it is currently run can't do studies like that for thousands of chemicals. They have to rely on the chemical manufacturers to tell them when there's trouble.
Duport knew internally that there were serious negative health effects caused by PFOA. And they hid them for decades. By the time it was revealed all the people involved in the original hiding were long gone, so it was IMPOSSIBLE to punish them by the current standards. They got rich and got away with it. What the fukk do you want government to do about that?
There's only two ways around there that I see.
#1. Switch the approval of chemical use from a "safe until proven otherwise" model to a "dangerous until proven otherwise" model. EVERY chemical must be tested for both short-term and long-term effects before it is allowed on the market, similar to how pharmaceuticals are treated. This will force a lot of shyt off the market for a while, but tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands (globally, even millions) of lives will be saved.
#2. Make the penalties so severe for people who hide this shyt that they won't do so even when it is theoretically possible. Forget fukking fines paid by the taxpayers, lets talk real criminal penalties with teeth and full bans on working in the industry again for anyone who knows and doesn't report. A full-on death penalty to the corporation itself. Make it so hiding this shyt becomes too risky an option.
And no matter what you choose, the revolving door between government and industry needs to be cut out completely. People in management roles in regulated industries cannot take on decision-making capacity in regulation bodies, and vice-versa.
Those are the only possibilities I see. Either a far more rigorous regulation process or far more severe penalties. How else would you prevent a repeat of the situation where Dupont concealed knowledge of PFOA's toxicity from the government all the way from the 1960s until the 2000s?
