I said both should be held accountable.
If a private regulator had withheld this information for 15yrs we'd want the book thrown at them. I feel we should keep the same energy for govt
Not sure why that angers lefties so much...
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If a private regulator had withheld this information for 15yrs we'd want the book thrown at them. I feel we should keep the same energy for govt
Not sure why that angers lefties so much...
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How would that be any different than the government regulators now (ex: Boeing)? If they can pay off regulators, then they can pay off "gov't judiciary" whatever that is. Look at the EPA, FCC, DOJ, and Senate jurors right now.
I believe govt. would deliver harsher sentencing on private actors than it does on itself, and when damages are awarded, those damages wont come out of tax payer pockets as it does with govt. regulators.
I also believe an environment where the public was going hard at both private actors and regulators would yield better results than what we have now, where inept/unprincipled regulators are given a pass/slap on the wrist.
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I doubt it. Plenty of private actors are fined but not harshly fined. Rarely anyone goes to jail, much less gets convicted. The Great Recession has some examples. The only people who saw any jail time was the Enron guys. Only because it was public and wildly egregious even for Wall Street.
In fact, who in Boeing will get indicted or go to jail because of all those deaths? Or will they just pay a fine and promise not to be as greedy not next time?
Govt. is the only one enforcing the laws under both scenarios... I dont think i understand the question.How does this apply only to government, and not to private business?
I'm not sure what you're referring to when you say "withheld this information for 15 years".I said both should be held accountable.
If a private regulator had withheld this information for 15yrs we'd want the book thrown at them. I feel we should keep the same energy for govt
Not sure why that angers lefties so much...
How PFOA should be regulated has been a back-and-forth issue at the government level since its toxicity was first exposed. Dupont is the one who completely hid its toxicity for 40 years. Once that cat was out of the bag there was nothing the government could do to hide that. The question has been what levels are to be considered too dangerous and how the government will regulate those things. I wasn't aware of facts pertaining to that role that have been hidden for that entire time period, although some reports were slow-paced and the Trump Administration apparently very recently tried to keep some new findings from going public.
You seem to be equating Dupont's sins and the EPA's sins in this regard. There's no comparison. Dupont is the murderer, the EPA is the shytty-ass DA who hasn't been prosecuting appropriately. One deserves the electric chair and the other deserves to lose their job, but don't try to equate those two things.
They are punished more often than govt. actors complicit in the fukkery...
and separating them would increase this i believe.Boeing has paid hundred of millions... i think billion at this point in damages... the FAA managers who let them self regulate have paid $0.
There's literally zero incentive for regulators to choose to serve the people over private sector checks.
System is a joke.
The heads of Boeing and the FAA should all be in prison.
All the arguments against private sector regulators are exactly what we have happening under tax payer funded state regulators 
Ya'll just hate tax payers and want them to foot the bill for everything whether it works or not...
... either that or you fear the private sector so much you refuse to acknowledge the governments inability.
Ya'll just hate tax payers and want them to foot the bill for everything whether it works or not...
... either that or you fear the private sector so much you refuse to acknowledge the governments inability.
Both should be punished, the extent to which is subject to the facts of the case.
I'm not sure, but it sounds like your whole point is what dupont did was worse... if so, i agree.
Neither should be let off the hook tho.
Both should be punished, the extent to which is subject to the facts of the case.
I'm not sure, but it sounds like your whole point is what dupont did was worse... if so, i agree.
Neither should be let off the hook tho.
My points are:
A. What Dupont did was far worse.
B. What Dupont did can only be combated with stronger regulation, not weaker
C. What the government did can only be combated by cutting industry out of the regulation circles
Last i remember is american business who are caught doing stuff , pay a fine & kick the bucket down the road . All the major banks gave the doj couple billions for ripping off minority consumers . The wells fargo was caught making up accounts to collect fees that the customers knew nothing about . You got dupont & duke energy polluting streams & turning frogs & fish into monsters with 6 legs
I don't believe this is possible... and i dont believe private regulators held accountable by the state is weaker.
Again, no one from the FAA is paying damages, despite being tasked by, and paid by the people to keep Boeing honest.
Systems broken.
I dont believe private regulators would look away if they had to pay/do the time for being negligent.
Government regulators have no real incentive to be effective... at least not one that outweighs private checks.
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