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Vince Carter summing up the whole 82 game “problem”
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tremonthustler1
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It's also a tolerance aspect from the fans.A lot of stuff that worked in 1946 doesn't work now. Orgs are all about their bottom line. Having guys play 82 or even close is obviously not making enough of a difference. Players played back in the day because there was no alternative. Owners, coaches, and fans have provided that alternative. Owners all about their money. Coaches all about having their best guys when it counts. Players getting paid either way and stand to make more the longer they can stick around. Not to mention their bodies being run into the ground for free before they stepped into the league. And since you do have superior skillsets and athletes out there doing more the game is more taxing as well.
Kerr is a Pop guy. Pop started this shyt and people stay overlooking that. Kawhi took it to its zenith or nadir depending on your perspective and people crowned him. Once a nikka load managed to a chip, it was a wrap.
Aint nothing changing unless fans demand it. That includes actually appreciating the regular season as its own entity, not one big prologue to the playoffs. Fans buying into rings culture and nothing else matters but winning in June (along with way too many teams getting in) is responsible for teams being
We can tolerate a catcher in baseball needing to sit a day game after a night game.
We can accept a goalie in soccer needing a breather.
We can accept even baseball players being load managed to some degree (i.e. some managers will straight up bench the star just so the bench player can eat). We're not happy about it, but we've even come to accept innings limits from pitchers.
We can accept soccer players not being available, whether it's for rest or playing for country.
We can accept football players needing steroids and painkillers to make it through 17 games.
For whatever reason we're slowly coming to the conclusion that NBA players can't get through 82 games, yet our solution isn't to accept that, but rather shorten the season.
Basketball fans might be the most selfish fans in sports. They don't have time for every game anymore, but don't wanna miss games either and don't wanna accept missing a game that someone else might watch so they don't wanna play catch up.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
the reason why the faith in buying tickets is compromised is because they're ridiculously expensive, in some cities, even when you suck. The solution isn't to cut the inventory so that even if you did have money to take your wife and kids to a game, you gotta pay even more because there's less games to choose from.
We've reached a point where you got accounts online that will flex on how expensive any event is and then compare it to an event where the commute is probably more expensive than the ticket itself. I'm old enough to remember when teams would give tickets out when teams were bad because they know that's a way to attract new fans and have em grow with you.
Like the brehs have said. Increasing roster sizes and start the season earlier might work, just because of the loss of revenue cutting RS games would cause
I do think the current season is too hard on the players bodies(intensity of the modern game) so something needs to change
I do think the current season is too hard on the players bodies(intensity of the modern game) so something needs to change
I have literally said this for years and I have been called everything except a child of God
THIS. These dudes don't understand how much even one game generates for teams, arena staff, players, coaches etc. There's a reason the league has been ADDING games cuz they make so much fukking money. They added the in-season tournament game, they added the play-in games, they changed the first round from best of 5 to best of 7. These are ALL monetary decisions.
Then the record books get fukked up because 82 games is no longer the standard.
I don't see any future with less games.
Diondon
Thanks to the lawyers uh, I marbled the foyer
Couldn’t have said it better.
These athletes today supposedly “superior” but need more rest and less games ?Something ain’t adding up.
Because they run so many miles, breh
and having to guard the three, put so much stop & start pressure on the joints
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tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
because you can't admit that you don't wanna leave your house.
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NBA players are not giving up their summer
That was one year though. One year during a pandemic and a period of rightful unrest due to the murder of black folk by police AND after a 4 month break in a bubble. So I wouldn't exactly say that proved anything. Like you said people are used to the season as it is...because its been that way for 80 years. I think fans would adjust if you stuck with it. They could own the dead periods (right after SB, which they kinda already do thanks to trades and ASG and mid to late summer). Admittedly this is more about my personal preference.
I hear you child of God.
Isn't shortening the season an indicator of acceptance that they cant get through 82 though? The problem is owners and to a lesser degree players not accepting less gate money. It shouldnt change much with the TV packages if you spread the games out over the same timeframe.
Fans in general are selfish and shortsighted. They are also more willing to accept stuff that has been around or that is more obviously connected with or beneficial to owners and coaches.
duckbutta
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It's not about how many games you play it's about how much you run, jump, cut,, give contact, receive contact, etc.
If you take how many times a player did all that on a per game basis and said "doing this this number of times equals one game" and then compared it to how often players do it today, the players today are actually playing way more than 82 games.
I'm watching Moussa on Saturday basically have to guard Wemby from one step past half court. He has to go through screens, he has to switch, he has to play drop coverage but he might also have to step up and show or he might have to hedge or he might have to ice and he was having to do all this stuff multiple times in one possession, where as someone like Alonzo Mourning and Shaq played drop coverage and drop coverage only for an exceptional high amount of their career defensive possessions.
Measuring basketball games in number of games played is the most inefficient way to measure basketball.
If you take how many times a player did all that on a per game basis and said "doing this this number of times equals one game" and then compared it to how often players do it today, the players today are actually playing way more than 82 games.
I'm watching Moussa on Saturday basically have to guard Wemby from one step past half court. He has to go through screens, he has to switch, he has to play drop coverage but he might also have to step up and show or he might have to hedge or he might have to ice and he was having to do all this stuff multiple times in one possession, where as someone like Alonzo Mourning and Shaq played drop coverage and drop coverage only for an exceptional high amount of their career defensive possessions.
Measuring basketball games in number of games played is the most inefficient way to measure basketball.
