Wade: Bron catching Jordan is a pipes dream

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

People were talking about the Warriors comeback against the Thunder.
Its just you get overshadowed when you then let someone perform the same thing against you in the finals.

Like I said before it makes no sense to critique a team for getting to the finals and losing, and claiming that is a worse feat than losing in the earlier playoff rounds and never even getting to that level.
So what that it took him 10 years before winning, he got there and he has won, while some got there and never won or some never even got there to even have a shot.
Jordan won 6 finals he attended, great, nice stat, doesn't matter compared to Bill Russell who won 11 chips, 8 straight, you think if Jordan knew he had to lose two finals appearances but he would get 2 more rings he wouldn't take it? Damn right he would add two more titles to his resume if he could, but yall are so bias in looking for anything anything that could use to put LeBron down, that youcome off as foolish.

Now you folks trying to talk about hypothetical to try to bolster your argument because you know for a fact Jordan can't say he went through any other prime ATG teams during the Bull's run.

No Jordan isn't the greatest, the greatest NBA marketing job maybe, but Bird, Magic, Kareem, Wilt and LBJ have a shot at greatness which isn't a joke ni the slightest, and Wilt IMHO is the clear greatest based by work on teh court.

Jordan also lost to the pistons, also didn't do shyt with the Wizards except destroy a organization right?.

Bron lost to the Big 3 Celtics, Dwights Magic which he played out of his mind and the team wasn't good enough, and a dynasty Spurs.
Jordan beat a shot Lakers and a bunch of ok teams, retired when the Rockets were coming on, and returned after their run was over.

But does that series against the thunder matter though? If you asked steph that today he'd say no cause they lost the finals. You nikkas grasping for straws. Jordan was 6 of 6 when it mattered most. Every team that loses in the finals won 3 playoff series to get there and all of them has/will get critiqued. Football baseball soccer hell hockey everybody loses and walks the hall of shame. It's fukking sports. Nike didn't win Jordan 6 finals and 2 3 peats or 10 scoring titles. FOH bron is not Jordan. Jordan won one more fmvp than bill Russell and Kobe won 5 averaging 25+ for 4 out of 5 finals he won. Tim Duncan got more rings than bron and 3 fmvps. Those 80s Detroit pistons would of beaten the shyt out of lebron and the cavs FOH. Jordan is the GOAT and he would of won atleast 7 and 6 finals mvps if he didn't retire. MJ in Washington was 40 years old and still scoring over 20 too so FOH like lebron bull dozing, no great technical footwork having ass would do the same when he 40. Lebron didn't achieve what Jordan as yet and for fukkery sakes let's say Wilt is the Goat. Bron can't be only 2nd under Wilt when he hasn't surpassed Jordan or Tim Duncan. I'm the minds of millions he still hasn't surpassed even Kobe. Don't forget Magic or Bird. He has no finals wins like Jordan, not more scoring titles or other accolades that compares to Jordan. No 3 peats like Jordan. He doesn't have more iconic finals moments like Jordan so FOH for the last time. Jordan beat prime Stockton, Malone, Charles, Barkley, Clyde who was only 30 in 1992 and Gary Payton. All HOF

 

[David_TheMan]

But does that series against the thunder matter though? If you asked steph that today he'd say no cause they lost the finals. You nikkas grasping for straws. Jordan was 6 of 6 when it mattered most. Every team that loses in the finals won 3 playoff series to get there. Everybody that loses in sports will get critiqued. Football baseball soccer hockey everybody loses and walks the hall of shame. It's fukking sports. Nike didn't win Jordan 6 finals and 2 3 peats or 10 scoring titles. FOH bron is not Jordan. Jordan won one more fmvp than bill Russell and Kobe won 5 averaging 25+ for 4 out of 5 finals he won. Tim Duncan got more rings than bron and 3 fmvps. Those 80s Detroit pistons would of beaten the shyt out of lebron and the cavs FOH. Jordan is the GOAT and he would of won atleast 7 and 6 finals mvps if he didn't retire. MJ in Washington was 40 years old and still scoring 20+ too so FOH like lebron bull dozing, no great technical footwork having ass would do the same when he 40. Lebron is not accomplished like Jordan or as legendary as him so for fukkery sakes let's say Wilt is the Goat. Bron can't be only 2nd under Wilt when he hasn't surpassed Jordan or Tim Duncan. I'm the minds of millions he still hasn't surpassed even Kobe. FOH no finals win like Jordan, no scoring titles or other accomplished that compare to Jordan. No 3 peas like Jordan. He doesn't have more iconic finals moments like Jordan so FOH for the last time.

Yeah it matters, I literally said it did.
Mattered a great deal for OKC because it broke up their team.
Yeah they lost the finals, so of course it means less to them, the question isn't if losing the finals doesn't mean anything to the loser, the question is if the losers of whatever round are not equally losers. They are. Doesn't matter to the Rockets that they lost 1st round or 2nd, they lost. Doesn't matter to the Warriors if they lost 1st round or finals, they lost. Period. Thats the joke of it. You want to only talk about finals, yet you ignore the multiple playoff losses of Jordan to fit your narrative. You ignore that LeBron took the Cavs to the finals against all odds and that the team had no business being there, you hold that against him as if its something to be ashamed of rather than a sign of how great a player is that the actually got them to the finals period.

Nike marketing made Jordan famous to generation of kids, to the point you all talk about Jordan winning 6 like it is the be all end all, and ignore Russell winning 11. You talk about individual dominance you ignore Magic, Bird, West, Baylor, Big O, Moses, J, Russell, Mikan, and Wilt. You have been brainwashed.

Bron isn't Jordan, he is better.

You talk about Jordan winning finals MVP, you are too simple and ignorant of the game to not even understand finals mvp didn't exist until the last year of Bill Russell's career and they gave it that year to West the first year even though the Lakers lost. This is what i'm talking about, here for everyone to see how little you jordan and kobe stans actually know about the game.

Tim Duncan's career is over LeBron still is playing so what does Tim having more rings than LeBron have to do with anything, especially since rings/championships are a team achievement, not an individual achievement?

Those 80s Pistons did beat the shyt out of Jordan and it wasn't until they were shot and the NBA changed the rules so Jordan could beat them that Jordan passed them by. Tell me, how are you the greatest of all time when they change the rules to help you, whereas for Wilt they cahnged the rules to hurt him and stop him from beingso effective?

I told you why LeBron is 2nd only to Wilt for me, he is the most dominant all around player since wilt, he has shown the ability to lift teams that have no business being elite to elite levels, repeatedly, he accomplished the stat twice of leading two teams in statistical categories in 2016 and 2015 finals. He led a team in the finals to the championship from a 3-1 defecit, something never done before. This is the making of a Player I feel is superior than Jordan.

as for Kobe, a knock off Jordan, who didnt have his drive to put the team first , who was a terrible teammate and team killer, and showed he could never make his teammates better will never be in consideration for the GOAT to me. Like I said in another thread, Wade is the number 2 SG to me after Jordan.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

Yeah it matters, I literally said it did.
Mattered a great deal for OKC because it broke up their team.
Yeah they lost the finals, so of course it means less to them, the question isn't if losing the finals doesn't mean anything to the loser, the question is if the losers of whatever round are not equally losers. They are. Doesn't matter to the Rockets that they lost 1st round or 2nd, they lost. Doesn't matter to the Warriors if they lost 1st round or finals, they lost. Period. Thats the joke of it. You want to only talk about finals, yet you ignore the multiple playoff losses of Jordan to fit your narrative. You ignore that LeBron took the Cavs to the finals against all odds and that the team had no business being there, you hold that against him as if its something to be ashamed of rather than a sign of how great a player is that the actually got them to the finals period.

Nike marketing made Jordan famous to generation of kids, to the point you all talk about Jordan winning 6 like it is the be all end all, and ignore Russell winning 11. You talk about individual dominance you ignore Magic, Bird, West, Baylor, Big O, Moses, J, Russell, Mikan, and Wilt. You have been brainwashed.

Bron isn't Jordan, he is better.

You talk about Jordan winning finals MVP, you are too simple and ignorant of the game to not even understand finals mvp didn't exist until the last year of Bill Russell's career and they gave it that year to West the first year even though the Lakers lost. This is what i'm talking about, here for everyone to see how little you jordan and kobe stans actually know about the game.

Tim Duncan's career is over LeBron still is playing so what does Tim having more rings than LeBron have to do with anything, especially since rings/championships are a team achievement, not an individual achievement?

Those 80s Pistons did beat the shyt out of Jordan and it wasn't until they were shot and the NBA changed the rules so Jordan could beat them that Jordan passed them by. Tell me, how are you the greatest of all time when they change the rules to help you, whereas for Wilt they cahnged the rules to hurt him and stop him from beingso effective?

I told you why LeBron is 2nd only to Wilt for me, he is the most dominant all around player since wilt, he has shown the ability to lift teams that have no business being elite to elite levels, repeatedly, he accomplished the stat twice of leading two teams in statistical categories in 2016 and 2015 finals. He led a team in the finals to the championship from a 3-1 defecit, something never done before. This is the making of a Player I feel is superior than Jordan.

as for Kobe, a knock off Jordan, who didnt have his drive to put the team first , who was a terrible teammate and team killer, and showed he could never make his teammates better will never be in consideration for the GOAT to me. Like I said in another thread, Wade is the number 2 SG to me after Jordan.

Wilt has 11, lebron has 3. How the fukk can lebron chase him when he still hasn't surpassed magic bird Kobe or Timmy? He just tied Wade. If rings is all it takes then tell ya boy Lebron to catch Kobe #5 before he talks Jordan or Wilt. Jordan won 6 and has the most final mvps. Tell me 5 Iconic bill Russell finals moments? FOH Jordan is the goat. He won at an all time level and achieved 10x more than lebron will ever. Wilt won 11 and lebron didnt surpass Kobe OrTim Duncan's 5, which is one less than half of wilts finals. Stop putting bron and wilt in the same sentence. Jordan never lost a finals and has the most fmvps. That's he problem with you young ass nikkas. He ain't even surpass 5 how he Jordan or wilt? He could magically beat the steph and Kd this year too he still not Jordan and he won't beat the Warriors this year so FOH. Idc what he did to steph curry because who record was the Warriors chasing last season? THE BULLS. Jordan is and always will be the standard. Lebron is not and was one of the most hated athletes just a few years ago because of his bytch ass actions.

 

[David_TheMan]

Wilt has 11, lebron has 3. How the fukk can lebron chase him when he still hasn't surpassed magic bird Kobe or Timmy? He just tied Wade. If rings is all it takes then tell ya boy Lebron to catch Kobe #5 before he talks Jordan or Wilt. Jordan won 6 and has the most final mvps. Tell me 5 Iconic bill Russell finals moments? FOH Jordan is the goat. He won at an all time level and achieved 10x more than lebron will ever. Wilt won 11 and lebron at even surpass Kobe Tim Duncan's 5 so stop putting bron and wilt in the same sentence. Jordan never lost a finals and has the most fmvps. The teams he beat had 1 player in the HOF. That's he problem with you young ass nikkas. He ain't even surpass 5 how he Jordan or wilt? He could magically beat the Warriors this year too he still not Jordan and he won't beat the Warriors who will close his window of opportunity so FOH. Idc what he did to steph curry because who record was the Warriors chasing last season. THE BULLS.

Wilt has 2 titles
Bill has 11 titles

Come on man, how do you expect anyone to take you serious when its clear you don't know the game and the history of the game?
I just told you why I rate Lebron as 2 only to Wilt.
Wade is a great player #2 SG in the history of the game to me, he isn't on GOAT level.

I never said anything about Rings making the player. I literally said rings are a team accomplishment, not a individual one.

A man leads a team to 11 championships 8 straigt, last two as a player coach and you say what is his iconic moments. SMH

Is this who the Kobe and Jordan camp want representing them?

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

Wilt has 2 titles
Bill has 11 titles

Come on man, how do you expect anyone to take you serious when its clear you don't know the game and the history of the game?
I just told you why I rate Lebron as 2 only to Wilt.
Wade is a great player #2 SG in the history of the game to me, he isn't on GOAT level.

I never said anything about Rings making the player. I literally said rings are a team accomplishment, not a individual one.

A man leads a team to 11 championships 8 straigt, last two as a player coach and you say what is his iconic moments. SMH

Is this who the Kobe and Jordan camp want representing them?

Got the names twisted. How you expect me to take you seriously when you trying to tell me lebron is only second to wilt? He hasn't dominated the game like Jordan. A man dominates a decade and influences the Kobe and lebron a of the world and a man who has lost more than he won is surpassed him and is now on the level of a man who dropped 100 and a man won 8. FOH talking about Jordan lost in the playoffs.

 

[David_TheMan]

Got the names twisted. How you expect me to take you seriously when you trying to tell me lebron is only second to wilt? He hasn't dominated the game like Jordan. A man dominates a decade and influences the Kobe and lebron a of the world and a man who has lost more than he won is surpassed him and is now on the level of a man who dropped 100 and a man won 8. FOH talking about Jordan lost in the playoffs.

You got the names twisted, sure.
Yes I've told you repeatedly to me LBJ is second only to Wilt.
I'd say LBJ has dominated just like Jordan, he has dominated the league clearly since 2005. 11 years of dominance.
MJ influencing Kobe means nothing to me.
LBJ has a career winnning record, to say he has lost more than he won is false on its face and not a statement connected to reality.
I didn't say LBJ was on the level as Wilt.
Yes Jordan lost in the playoffs in the early rounds or are you going to say those early playoff exits or conference exits weren't really loses.
You post a video that shows at the age of 31, LBJ is outpacing Jordan and really should have an extra NBA MVP to his name already.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

You got the names twisted, sure.
Yes I've told you repeatedly to me LBJ is second only to Wilt.
I'd say LBJ has dominated just like Jordan, he has dominated the league clearly since 2005. 11 years of dominance.
MJ influencing Kobe means nothing to me.
LBJ has a career winnning record, to say he has lost more than he won is false on its face and not a statement connected to reality.
I didn't say LBJ was on the level as Wilt.
Yes Jordan lost in the playoffs in the early rounds or are you going to say those early playoff exits or conference exits weren't really loses.
You post a video that shows at the age of 31, LBJ is outpacing Jordan and really should have an extra NBA MVP to his name already.

You didn't watch the video which is set at a certain time stamp
Jordan went to two conference finals in the 80s
Jordan was called the goat by bird in the 80s after scoring 63 his second year
Lebron lost 4 times in the finals
Jordan lost 0
You don't care about Kobe well idgaf about wilt or bill either
Jordan had 0 finals losses
Jordan never went game 7 in the finals
Jordan swept prime Shaq and penny
Bron probably couldn't beat Shaq and Kobe in 2004 when they played terrible against the pistons
Jordan is 0 in finals losses
Jordan is 0 in finals losses
I repeat Jordan had 0 finals losses
I don't care if Jordan got swept in the playoffs for 10 years before winning one
Jordan has 0 losses lebron has 4
Jordan had 1 all star lebron had 2 HOF and still went 2-2 with them in Miami in his prime.
Teams created Jordan rules
Jordan could have went to, and won 8 finals if he didn't retire
He only got beat in the playoffs once in the 90s and that's returning to the NBA for only 17 games. He 3 peated after

 

[David_TheMan]

You didn't watch the video which is set at a certain time stamp
Jordan went to two conference finals in the 80s
Jordan was called the goat by bird in the 80s after scoring 63 his second year
Lebron lost 4 times in the finals
Jordan lost 0
You don't care about Kobe well idgaf about wilt or bill either
Jordan had 0 finals losses
Jordan never went game 7 in the finals
Jordan swept prime Shaq and penny
Bron probably couldn't beat prime Shaq and Kobe
Jordan is 0 in finals losses
Jordan is 0 in finals losses
I don't care if Jordan got swept in the playoffs for 10 years before winning one
Jordan has 0 losses lebron has 4
Jordan had 1 all star lebron had 2 HOF and still went 2-2 in Miami in his prime.
Teams created Jordan rules
Jordan could have went to, and won 8 finals if he didn't retire
He only got beat on the playoffs once in the 90s and that's returning to the NBA for only 17 games. He 3 prayed after

What the fukk does going to two conference finals in the 80s mean when LeBron when LeBron took the Cavs through Detroit and to the Finals before he even hit his prime?
Who cares what Bird called Jordan.
So what that LeBron lost in the finals, he been in the playoffs more years of his career than Jordan did.

Fine with me.
Jordan never went to game 7 in the finals, who cares.
The Bulls swept pre-prime Shaq and Penny, after the previous year being swept by Shaq and Penny
You don't care that Jordan lost in the playoffs, that much is already understood.

Jordan had HOF Pippen and HOF Rodman, and HOF coach in Phil Jackson, had Parish as well,, and all star in Grant.
LBJ has never had a HOF coach, Had HOF Wade who physically broke down after LBJ got there and a all-star in Bosh.

The Pistons created the Jordan rules, the NBA banned the strategy because they wanted stars like JOrdan to flourish. That isnt a sign of greatness.
Jordan didn't go to 8 finals, talking about what he could have and should have done is a joke.
Doesn't matter if he got beat in teh playoffs in the 90s once or he didn't play at all because he was retired. He lost in the playoffs, period.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Jordan doesn't pass as good as LBJ hence way Jordan has less assists. To claim he is a better passer when statistics and those of us who saw both play know Jordan wasn't capable of making those down court, cross court passes that LeBron is able to whip is ridiculous. You and I both know it . Its why Jordan isn't even in the top 25 in league history in assists, while LeBron is ranked 18th of all time as a fukking small forward.

How Jordan is a better defender when he had to be protected by Scottie? LeBron is a better version of Scottie Pippen defensively (Scottie said the same himself) so you trying to tell me MJ is a better defender than the man who is a better version of the man tasked to pick up the slack that Jordan couldn't handle? Nah kid.

IQ is a wash with me, both have tremendous BB IQ, but I'll say this, LBJ makes his teammates better with his IQ, Jordan didn't do that in the 80s.
Skill player LeBron has more skills that he excels at than Jordan, no way that is arguable. LeBron actually runs his offense, it isn't something liek the triangle that runs itself and doesn't needs a true PG, so on execution I'll say the advantage goes to LeBron because he actually runs the offense and calls the plays. Under pressure stats show LeBron has better stats under pressure in close out games than MJ.

Yes we can go facts and we can go eye balls, its whatever you want with me.

You already lost , you pulling out links about MJ could have been, I don't give a fukk what anyone thinks MJ could have been, we know what HE WAS. There is no more could have been for MJ, his career is finished, he wasn't a PG and never will be considered a great PG ever. End of discussion.

You can post whatever you want, I'm waiting and I'm ready and willing to go right back at you with facts.

MJ was a great defender first 4 years, after 92 - 93 there was a real drop off and Pippen was the one they used to guard 1 - 4 to take them out of their offensive rhythm, not Jordan. This is a fact. Phil and Pippen know this, it was the gameplan.

Now I see you want to make excuse for Jordan need Pipper to protect him, but you denigrate LBJ for needing any help, that MJ dikkriding knows nothing about logical consistency.

I saw MJ on national tv, NBC every week, and I respect his game but I'll never fall for the hype of him. I saw that man punch Reggie Miller and Reggie get ejected. I saw the man palm the ball and carry and never be called, I saw him get assists when he didn't need them and even teh announcers joke about it. I saw it in his prime as a kid. So don't try to talk about the MJ stories like I didn't see that shyt with my own eyes.

Now bring out your big guns kid, lets go.

You think Bron is better defensively than Jordan

Lebron averages more assists because he has the ball more.

In terms of stats Lebron actually makes his teammates worse. Again just purely points, assists etc

Jordan actually makes his teammates numbers go up mostly.

I have a link I'll try to find

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

You didn't watch the video which is set at a certain time stamp
Jordan went to two conference finals in the 80s
Jordan was called the goat by bird in the 80s after scoring 63 his second year
Lebron lost 4 times in the finals
Jordan lost 0
You don't care about Kobe well idgaf about wilt or bill either
Jordan had 0 finals losses
Jordan never went game 7 in the finals
Jordan swept prime Shaq and penny
Bron probably couldn't beat Shaq and Kobe in 2004 when they played terrible against the pistons
Jordan is 0 in finals losses
Jordan is 0 in finals losses
I repeat Jordan had 0 finals losses
I don't care if Jordan got swept in the playoffs for 10 years before winning one
Jordan has 0 losses lebron has 4
Jordan had 1 all star lebron had 2 HOF and still went 2-2 with them in Miami in his prime.
Teams created Jordan rules
Jordan could have went to, and won 8 finals if he didn't retire
He only got beat in the playoffs once in the 90s and that's returning to the NBA for only 17 games. He 3 peated after

Don't let these fakkits keep pushing LBJ is better than Kobe, because he isn't.

The only thing that hurts Kobe is his shot selection.

He had the toughest road to the finals than any other player.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

What the fukk does going to two conference finals in the 80s mean when LeBron when LeBron took the Cavs through Detroit and to the Finals before he even hit his prime?
Who cares what Bird called Jordan.
So what that LeBron lost in the finals, he been in the playoffs more years of his career than Jordan did.

Fine with me.
Jordan never went to game 7 in the finals, who cares.
The Bulls swept pre-prime Shaq and Penny, after the previous year being swept by Shaq and Penny
You don't care that Jordan lost in the playoffs, that much is already understood.

Jordan had HOF Pippen and HOF Rodman, and HOF coach in Phil Jackson, had Parish as well,, and all star in Grant.
LBJ has never had a HOF coach, Had HOF Wade who physically broke down after LBJ got there and a all-star in Bosh.

The Pistons created the Jordan rules, the NBA banned the strategy because they wanted stars like JOrdan to flourish. That isnt a sign of greatness.
Jordan didn't go to 8 finals, talking about what he could have and should have done is a joke.
Doesn't matter if he got beat in teh playoffs in the 90s once or he didn't play at all because he was retired. He lost in the playoffs, period.

And he lost more than Jordan in the finals. Jordan lost 0 times in the finals and beat teams that would of ran a train on the cavs and the heat.
Rodman didn't come to the second 3 peat and bosh will make It to the HOF. Phil ain't doing shyt with the Knicks? Lebron has 4 final losses. If Jordan could dominate a whole decade of basketball. Retired come back and 3 peat and the only lost was when he only played 17 games, how bron bron the most dominate since Wilt? You forget Shaq was the most dominated big man since Wilt and both are big men. Lebron is Magic. 6'8 or 6'9 who can play 1-5. Jordan could have won 8 finals, but if that doesn't matter to you than what does is he lost 0 times in the finals and lebron lost 4. Ngaf about tom Brady playoffs losses, Derek Jeter losses, Kobe playoff losses. We only care about the final 7 game series. Only fakkit bron stans make the playoffs a big deal cause they got nothing else.

 

[Art Barr]

What the fukk does going to two conference finals in the 80s mean when LeBron when LeBron took the Cavs through Detroit and to the Finals before he even hit his prime?
Who cares what Bird called Jordan.
So what that LeBron lost in the finals, he been in the playoffs more years of his career than Jordan did.

Fine with me.
Jordan never went to game 7 in the finals, who cares.
The Bulls swept pre-prime Shaq and Penny, after the previous year being swept by Shaq and Penny
You don't care that Jordan lost in the playoffs, that much is already understood.

Jordan had HOF Pippen and HOF Rodman, and HOF coach in Phil Jackson, had Parish as well,, and all star in Grant.
LBJ has never had a HOF coach, Had HOF Wade who physically broke down after LBJ got there and a all-star in Bosh.

The Pistons created the Jordan rules, the NBA banned the strategy because they wanted stars like JOrdan to flourish. That isnt a sign of greatness.
Jordan didn't go to 8 finals, talking about what he could have and should have done is a joke.
Doesn't matter if he got beat in teh playoffs in the 90s once or he didn't play at all because he was retired. He lost in the playoffs, period.

Yeah you are inept and I notice you skimmed over the post about Jordan's play @ pg.
by another poster cosigning the facts I posted on Jordan also ramping pip whom never surpassed Jordan on any level.

Like I said you never saw this shyt at all.
If you did what galaxy on your satellite did you watch this shyt on.
What channel outlet was the games on, and what provider supplied the telecast in that region.
You won't answer this because you don't fukk'n know and talking complete bullshyt unsupported by facts.
Let alone an eye test,...

You lauced't sir,...
All I have to do is quote the poster about and put an ampersand to your username to call you out.

So take your L,...


Art Barr

 

[David_TheMan]

You think Bron is better defensively than Jordan

Lebron averages more assists because he has the ball more.

In terms of stats Lebron actually makes his teammates worse. Again just purely points, assists etc

Jordan actually makes his teammates numbers go up mostly.

I have a link I'll try to find

I know Bron is better defensively than Jordan. I saw how the Bulls placed Pippen to the best offensive player to protect Jordan from foul trouble, I see how LBJ in year 13 still takes the best offensive player 1 -4 to guard when the pressure is on.

LeBron averages more assists because he is a point forward and he runs the offense, which is also why he has the ball more.

I can show you in terms of stats and results, that Jordan is only worth a two games to the Bulls over Pete fukking Myers.

 

[Art Barr]

This post is incorrect, Jordan actually played Point Guard for the majority of the 1988 NBA season and averaged 32 ppg, 8 assists and 8 rebounds per game, 3 steals per game, 53% fg, 85% ft, (That season alone, is arguably better than any season LeBron has ever had).

Wasn't even his natural position. Reason he discontinued playing PG was because running an offense, leading the league in scoring, and being the best defensive guard was just too taxing.

Also, Pippen was being molded by fire, via Jordan, during practice, resulting in his eventual ascension as the Bulls playmaker.


EDIT: oh and Chicago won 50 games that year with Jordan doing everything and a green Pippen/Horace Grant.

@David_TheMan

You are done,....

Take ya L,....


Art Barr

 

[David_TheMan]

And he lost more than Jordan in the finals. Jordan lost 0 times in the finals and beat teams that would of ran a train on the cavs and the heat.
Rodman didn't come to the second 3 peat and bosh will make It to the HOF. Tell me what is Phil doing what the Knicks now? Lebron has 4 final losses. If Jordan could dominate a whole decade of basketball. Retired come back and 3 peat and the only lost was when he only played 17 games, the how bron bron the most dominate since Wilt? You forget Shaq was the most dominated big man since Wilt and both are big men. Lebron is Magic. 6'8 or 6'9 who can play 1-5. Jordan could have won 8 finals, but if that doesn't matter to you than what does is he lost 0 times in the finals and lebron lost 4. Nobody cares about what you did in the playoffs. Ngaf about tom Brady playoffs losses, Derek Jeter losses, Kobe playoff losses. We only care about the final 7 game series. Only fakkit bron stans make the playoffs a big deal cause they got nothing else.

So what,, Jordan didn't win everytime his team got to the playoffs,, so at the end of the day the finals distinction means nothing.
I know when Rodman came. Bosh due to injury will probably not make it in the HOF.
Phil isn't the coach of the Knicks he is the GM.
LeBron has dominated more than a decade of basketball.
I already told you how Bron is the most dominant since Wilt.
No I don't think Shaq is in the conversation at all for GOAT, meaning he isn't a top 5 all time player, lack of work ethic did him in.
Jordan didn't win 8, he won 6, and if he had somehow made it to the 93 - 95 Rockets he would have lost because those teams were built to be the Bulls kryptonite.

Yes people do care about playoff losses, because when you lose in the playoffs/finals you didn't finish the job. Period.
You only care about the finals because it fits the agenda to support your jordan dikk riding.