Wade: Bron catching Jordan is a pipes dream

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Kareem doesn't deserve it over any of the 5 I listed.
He is in the top 10 though after Isiah thomas though


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I remember watching the olympic college stars vs nba stars game. MJ even in college didn't back down, was yammin on the nba players, stylin on isaiah and bird. MJ wanted to beat them, he wants to beat everyone. That's what made him great.

Lebron prolly wanna switch sides and get their autographs lol

He probably would have found a way to team up with couple of those nba stars in that game.
 

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And Scottie Pippen, the man Phil jackson said was the heart and soul of the Bulls 6 championship teams, who ran the offense and defense, that man Scottie Pippen said LeBron is better than MJ, and he saw MJ everyday in his prime.

I can play that game too.

Isiah thomas said Jordan aint the GOAT either.


Yes we do, but then you procede to make an excuse for Jordan losing to the Bucks, but you don't accept that the Mavs simply outplayed the Heat as a team (outcoached as well) and that is why they won. Even though Mavs coaches say LeBron made the textbook proper read in that series and its everyone else who let LeBron down because he made the right passes at the right time.

LOL

Like I said its funny how we criticize LeBron for losing the last round of the playoffs, and Jordan losing in the early rounds is ignored.
But then folks try to shyt on LeBron for not winning non finals series as well, and ignore Jordan losing those as well.

wow isaiah thomas, the one who blackballed MJ from the allstar game and has never liked MJ, didn't call him GOAT, so surprised lol. Meanwhile Lebron, Magic, and Bird have called MJ the GOAT. So again, your own list doesn't believe you.

We judge how players perform at the highest level, at the highest moments. Lebron has too many failures period. Losing 4 finals period just doesn't trump losing 0 finals, ever. Especially coming up small in those finals moments as well.

That's the difference, Lebron wants to pass, he don't wanna take over and live with the results. and it's still not an excuse for scoring a whopping 8 points and losing a finals lead in the series.
 

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wow isaiah thomas, the one who blackballed MJ from the allstar game and has never liked MJ, didn't call him GOAT, so surprised lol. Meanwhile Lebron, Magic, and Bird have called MJ the GOAT. So again, your own list doesn't believe you.

We judge how players perform at the highest level, at the highest moments. Lebron has too many failures period. Losing 4 finals period just doesn't trump losing 0 finals, ever. Especially coming up small in those finals moments as well.

That's the difference, Lebron wants to pass, he don't wanna take over and live with the results.
i don't care what any of them call MJ, he will never be the GOAT over Wilt to me because he never matched or even came close to matching Wilt's dominance and influence on the individual level. So what are you crying about that to me for. I can say Big O said LeBron is the GOAT, but has Wilt over Jordan. Karl Malone said Wilt. Isiah says kareem, Dr. J says Kareem, Walton says Kareem, Pippen said Bron was better than Jordan, Rick Berry Wilt.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on the GOAT, it is a subjective designation.

That said I can argue my list with sound logic, most of you Jordan stans can't.

GOAT designation is individual play and dominance in yourself and own play, not titles which are team accomplishments.
LeBron has failures and Jordan has failures, LeBron achieved a high last year, Jordan never achieved period.
 

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You said Kareem aint a Top 5 player?

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Not for me, if you can make a argument why he would be over Magic, Bird, Jordan, Wilt, and LBJ I'm open to hearing it and we can discuss it, but yeah he isn't in my top 5
 

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Not for me, if you can make a argument why he would be over Magic, Bird, Jordan, Wilt, and LBJ I'm open to hearing it and we can discuss it, but yeah he isn't in my top 5
Kareem is arguably the best player ever, even over Jordan.

That's how great he was.

I get it if you don't have him #1. I accept putting Jordan over him if you want.
But there's no fukking way he's not Top 5.
 

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i don't care what any of them call MJ, he will never be the GOAT over Wilt to me because he never matched or even came close to matching Wilt's dominance and influence on the individual level. So what are you crying about that to me for. I can say Big O said LeBron is the GOAT, but has Wilt over Jordan. Karl Malone said Wilt. Isiah says kareem, Dr. J says Kareem, Walton says Kareem, Pippen said Bron was better than Jordan, Rick Berry Wilt.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on the GOAT, it is a subjective designation.

That said I can argue my list with sound logic, most of you Jordan stans can't.

GOAT designation is individual play and dominance in yourself and own play, not titles which are team accomplishments.
LeBron has failures and Jordan has failures, LeBron achieved a high last year, Jordan never achieved period.

Most scoring titles most finals mvps highest ppg isn't domination? Yet you got lebron over mj lol

And this thread is about lebron and mj not wilt.
 

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Kareem is arguably the best player ever, even over Jordan.

That's how great he was.

I get it if you don't have him #1. I accept putting Jordan over him if you want.
But there's no fukking way he's not Top 5.
I understand where you are coming from, again tell me who he should bump out and why and i will respond honestly and objectively to my rationale and you can take it or leave it. Simple as that for me, i understand those heavy on the Kareem tip
 

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Most scoring titles most finals mvps highest ppg isn't domination? Yet you got lebron over mj lol

Finals MVP doesn't mean much since it didn't start until 69, last year of Celtics dynasty.
Scoring us MJs forte, doesn't mean much if your game isn't predicated on being a scorer such as if you are a facilitator.
I got Magic, Bird, Thomas never got scoring titles or but thats okay they brought more to the game than that.
As for highest PPG great,MJ got a few hundreths more PPG than Wilt. Nice, MJ had the benefit of the 3pt shot to aide his achievenment, didn't exist when Wilt played.
When MJ lead the league in assists, when MJ average 50 PPG for a season while leading the league in FG% When MJ drop 100, When MJ drop 60 back to back, when MJ drop 60 back to back to back, when MJ drop 60 back to back to back to back? When MJ pull down 27rpg for a season? When MJ pull down 1000 boards a season for 13 years? When MJ pull down 41 boards in a game? When mJ score 59 in a half? When MJ get go 9 straight games with a triple double? When MJ go 227 games with a double double. When MJ score 53, pull down 32, and drop 13 dimes?
 

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Finals MVP doesn't mean much since it didn't start until 69, last year of Celtics dynasty.
Scoring us MJs forte, doesn't mean much if your game isn't predicated on being a scorer such as if you are a facilitator.
I got Magic, Bird, Thomas never got scoring titles or but thats okay they brought more to the game than that.
As for highest PPG great,MJ got a few hundreths more PPG than Wilt. Nice, MJ had the benefit of the 3pt shot to aide his achievenment, didn't exist when Wilt played.
When MJ lead the league in assists, when MJ average 50 PPG for a season while leading the league in FG% When MJ drop 100, When MJ drop 60 back to back, when MJ drop 60 back to back to back, when MJ drop 60 back to back to back to back? When MJ pull down 27rpg for a season? When MJ pull down 1000 boards a season for 13 years? When MJ pull down 41 boards in a game? When mJ score 59 in a half? When MJ get go 9 straight games with a triple double? When MJ go 227 games with a double double. When MJ score 53, pull down 32, and drop 13 dimes?

Again you're deflecting. Wilt can be argued for that's fine. This threads about lebron and mj though.

Yeah a wing player has a higher ppg than a center, think about that. That tells you how good mj was. And while mj could make 3s, he wasn't jackin up 3s.

Again 3 of your top 5 say mj the goat yet you got them over mj. So even they don't believe you.

It's obvious you didn't watch mj from the jump or else you'd be agreeing with magic, bird, etc.
 
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