you arguing with a kid don't even waste ya time![]()
should've checked his post history... smh at me...

you arguing with a kid don't even waste ya time![]()
he gets like 50 a show
yall nikkas are too much man
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Yeah...Rick tried to tell Russell. ..
cause Rick really CARED about the culture of hip hop
but RUSSELL was so far in debt to LYORs "gangsta associates" over that botched Run DMC deal and CBS/SONY he had no choice but to turn a deaf ear (no pun intended)
along with the fact that these association's honestly did help DEF JAM solidify its brand
but for Rick it became personal when Lyor Cohen became Russell's right hand man...
severing thier friendship as well
but also when he finessed his way into becoming The BEASTIE BOYS "advisor" it was the nail in the coffin that caused Rick to realize that LYOR was out of control and was hell bent on turning DEF JAM into his own personal "Frankenstein".
What was once a grassroots boutique label had now gone full CORPORATE under LYOR reign and RICK didn't like it.
LYORs hands on approach was overtly oppressive and excessive and had nothing to do with the ART in Rick Rubins mind.
While Rick would be grinding it out on the boards for the BEASTIE BOYS
Lyor would be out copping Cocaine foe them
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When the BEASTIES wanted to waste thier budget on cars...women and drugs. ..which Rick said NO to
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LYOR was thier to supply them while on tour. .....
in the end according to The BIG PAYBACK by DAN CHARNAS
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it cost the BEASTIE BOYS severely....when they found themselves embroiled in a legal battle with DEF JAM due to monies owed.
Not to mention his merging of DEF JAM with RUSH MANAGEMENT was the biggest example of CONFLICT OF INTREST in the history of rap...
They were a record label
label..management firm..publicist company all in one..
they even had deejays on THIER payroll!
This was all the makings of LYOR COHEN a former employee of the infamous BANK OF LEUMI the oldest most powerful banking institution of ISREAL, his commerce skill set was just too much for RICK RUBIN artsy fartsy mentality
and eventually set the standard for the Rap Industry and gave birth to all these "money minded musical moguls" who followed his blueprint and credit him as thier influence. ..
Todd Moscowitz...Craig Kallman...Kevin Liles....Julie Greenwald...P. Diddy...Andre Harrell. ...Tina Davis and the late great Chris Lighty are all SPAWNS OF "the Great Lansky" aka Lyor
You REALLY don't get it do you?
$50 x 1,500 = $75,000 & you think the Venue doesn't get a cut? You think 300/Atlantic doesn't get the MAJORITY cut? You think Venues let you perform without prior Insurance? You think their aren't Security, Managers, Stylists, Road DJ's, Hotel Expenses, Flights, Meal Coverage for an entire Entourage, etc, that get paid? You think EVERY venue can afford to pay $50k to an artist? You think those hole in the wall spots that come in between those capacity shows are paying $50k? You honestly believe those Venues don't have to pay their own opening acts? Do you know how much Gas is to fill up a Tour Bus & some labels have a Mileage Tax? You think Thugga doesn't owe Lyor/300/Atlantic for ONLY selling 30,000 copies after months & months of spending money on Marketing & Promotion? You believe he got paid for "Lifestyle" while every other artist has sued Cash Money for non-payment? Baby is credited on the song & you think he paid Thugga while everyone from Jazze Pha to Manny Fresh to Tyga has said they've never received 1 check from them?
You believe everything these artists say huh?
You have PLATINUM Artists with BETTER contracts with actual SOLO Top 40 HIT RECORDS without dirty hands in their pockets that do 50 City Tours that come out broke years later after flashing the same borrowed cars, borrowed money, borrowed jewelry, etc & you think Thugga with less then 50k Sales & no Solo Hit Records is cashing out?
Why do you think Lyor isn't giving him any space right now?
First he signed to 1017 then supposedly Cash Money but he's on 300/Atlantic with Birdman nowhere near in sight anymore... why do you think that is?
My goodness it is easy to fool cats these days... ya'll believe ANYTHING...
Like I said... you'll see the REAL deal 2-3 years after his last public release...![]()
You REALLY don't get it do you?
$50 x 1,500 = $75,000 & you think the Venue doesn't get a cut? You think 300/Atlantic doesn't get the MAJORITY cut? You think Venues let you perform without prior Insurance? You think their aren't Security, Managers, Stylists, Road DJ's, Hotel Expenses, Flights, Meal Coverage for an entire Entourage, etc, that get paid? You think EVERY venue can afford to pay $50k to an artist? You think those hole in the wall spots that come in between those capacity shows are paying $50k? You honestly believe those Venues don't have to pay their own opening acts? Do you know how much Gas is to fill up a Tour Bus & some labels have a Mileage Tax? You think Thugga doesn't owe Lyor/300/Atlantic for ONLY selling 30,000 copies after months & months of spending money on Marketing & Promotion? You believe he got paid for "Lifestyle" while every other artist has sued Cash Money for non-payment? Baby is credited on the song & you think he paid Thugga while everyone from Jazze Pha to Manny Fresh to Tyga has said they've never received 1 check from them?
You believe everything these artists say huh?
You have PLATINUM Artists with BETTER contracts with actual SOLO Top 40 HIT RECORDS without dirty hands in their pockets that do 50 City Tours that come out broke years later after flashing the same borrowed cars, borrowed money, borrowed jewelry, etc & you think Thugga with less then 50k Sales & no Solo Hit Records is cashing out?
Why do you think Lyor isn't giving him any space right now?
First he signed to 1017 then supposedly Cash Money but he's on 300/Atlantic with Birdman nowhere near in sight anymore... why do you think that is?
My goodness it is easy to fool cats these days... ya'll believe ANYTHING...
Like I said... you'll see the REAL deal 2-3 years after his last public release...![]()
Well damn
since when i need proofRick Rubin been telling us not to trust Lyor for 30 years