WARNER BROS. wouldn't let PRINCE have his GOVERNMENT NAME so he went to WAR AGAINST THE INDUSTRY...

[Cat piss martini]

Prince saw the future of the internet
10 years before hand.....
he said fukk the machine,created a website
and slung 277 thousand copies of crystal ball
at 50 dollars a pop.....(you do the math)
dude was always a boss.

 

[noodles]

Great debate.

Salute the legend Prince #RIP

Recommend people read 'The Secret Relationship between Blacks and Jews'...

 

[Zero]

Finally wins His Masters back after decades of fighting for his OWN property, and now he's gone

Makes you think

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

Sorry breh, case re opened...

Pandora Reveals How Much It Pays Artists, Claims Drake, Lil Wayne Rake In $3 Million A Year

"Popular artists such as Adele, Jason Aldean and Wiz Khalifa are making more than $1 million every year, while some — like Drake and Lil Wayne — are raking in almost $3 million annually."

"For over two thousand artists Pandora will pay over $10,000 dollars each over the next 12 months (including one of my favorites, the late jazz pianist Oscar Peterson), and for more than 800 we’ll pay over $50,000, more than the income of the average American household…"

This is an old article that doesn't include Apple Music or Spotify.

Again, not saying people are becoming the hood bill gates off these but it is A LOT more than the radio spins they made ZERO dollars off of. So that right there puts them in a better situation, thanks to the Internet.

As far as distribution method again, people can buy songs off itunes all over the world and do. Before a guy like Problem and DJ Quik could not put out an album, by themselves, and have access to the market in Japan like they did. Now they can because of the Internet.

The internet is not perfect or even great but to write it off completely is 100,000% wrong. Period. Case closed. People's Court OUT.

listen to overexagerated press releases brehs

And for the record Homie.....

Prince NEVER completely wrote the INTERNET OFF...

if that case ...he wouldn't never had fukked with TIDAL streaming service to begin with

excuse me for not posting the full context of his statements...

but he simply said the kindred relationship that Artists should be able to have with the consumer market of the INTERNET is DEAD due to the conflict of intrests created by these corporations which stiflies the artists soverigen rights as well as compensation of their work

as he stated in a tweet just last year ..........




And he's right.....why should the content provider(apple) which is basically a Broadcaster act as a Record Label as well???!?

they eating in so many ways it ain't even funny...in fact to paraphrase MARC GEIGER they are litearly laughing all the way to the bank at the ARTIST'S EXPENSE:

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/we-m...straight-profit-marc-geiger.307783/best-posts

 

[FeloniousMonk]

We always thought Prince was weird.

Thought he was weird when him wrote slave on his face..

Of course at the time we where young, naive and oblivious to the inner workings of the industry(well I was reading Donald Passmans book at the time)

Yet, I wondered "how in the FUKK can a record label OWN YOUR BIRTH GIVEN NAME?"

Shyt didnt set right...

 

[jilla82]

I still don't agree with his feelings towards the Internet but understand he comes from an era and lives a life where he doesn't need the Internet's distribution method like others do. If Prince wants a song he sends out his PA to go buy it. I however need to be able to get it on Itunes in the middle of the night when I am working

I was watching this documentary (Slave Trade: how Prince re-made the Music Business) last night about Princes fight w/ the labels.

He was actually the first artist to sell his music on the internet direct to consumer (I think it was like 1996).
and even released a single on Napster.
He also predicted that the internet was going to crush the buildings...this was before people even really fukked with the net like that.

I think he was just a little too ahead of the curve for him to really profit off of it.
Plus just really had ill feelings towards the labels...so he didnt want to play their game.

I wish I could find it online...it was kind of spooky seeing him call out what was going to happen before it happened.

 

[WhiteDawg3000]

great thread... salute prince

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

I was watching this documentary (Slave Trade: how Prince re-made the Music Business) last night about Princes fight w/ the labels.

He was actually the first artist to sell his music on the internet direct to consumer (I think it was like 1996).
and even released a single on Napster.
He also predicted that the internet was going to crush the buildings...this was before people even really fukked with the net like that.

I think he was just a little too ahead of the curve for him to really profit off of it.
Plus just really had ill feelings towards the labels...so he didnt want to play their game.

I wish I could find it online...it was kind of spooky seeing him call out what was going to happen before it happened.

That actually makes perfect sense and I didn't actually know all that. He definitely was always ahead of his time with everything he did. A napster release would have netted him nothing but if he was still around to drop one of those 'out of nowhere' albums that have been popular lately, it would sell tons.

At the end of the day you have to respect an artist who wants to have control of their art. Even if it means sacrificing money and making things simple for consumers.

 

[MufasaChoppa]

I own this DVD. Trying to upload it for the coli to watch, great documentary that breaks down everything in full detail. Prince basically had his own Napster Paid Music service in the early 90s

 

[Spin]

I own this DVD. Trying to upload it for the coli to watch, great documentary that breaks down everything in full detail. Prince basically had his own Napster Paid Music service in the early 90s

Prince also outsmarted the labels when he included the price of his album Musicology in his concert tickets. Every ticket buyer got a copy of the album and it went platinum. They changed the rules now where u can't do it to add to your total album sales. Almost makes no sense in this environment where they keep jacking up concert ticket prices.

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

Former WARNER BROTHERS chairman MO OSTIN shares WARNERS perspective on PRINCE'S business agenda

His biggest concern always was an ownership interest in the record that he created, which is understandable. We had both his records and publishing, although I said to you earlier one of the reasons he didn't sign with A&M was because they insisted that publishing be part of the deal and we didn't.

We later made a deal with him to acquire his publishing. His anger at us actually came out of his obsession with ownership of his own work. because he was a Warner artist and we owned the masters, a lot of it was directed at us, and that's why he changed his name and became a symbol and became "The Artist Formerly Known As Prince" and had that “slave” thing on his face.

I’m not sure whether there was any racist aspect to it. But he really had given us a bad time over it -- he constantly badgered us to give him ownership of the records.

As you know, one of the most important assets of any record company is their library, so it was very, very important to a record company to take ownership. And he came at you like, “Give me back my catalog -- that's the way it should be, despite the contracts”?

Yep. He was very, very persistent and never let up. And as you know, he never went back to the name Prince until after he left Warner Bros. It was just business? Well, it was annoying, because he was pretty persistent, and the idea that we had enslaved him and treated him unfairly and were taking advantage of him was bothersome

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to own his masters. Dean [Martin] owned his masters, too. Reprise, because it was a company that was by an artist, we always wanted the environment to be [one] where the artist was favored. But the "slave" stuff only bugged you? It was just business? Well, it was annoying, because he was pretty persistent, and the idea that we had enslaved him and treated him unfairly and were taking advantage of him was bothersome, because it certainly wasn't the case in our eyes. But we never had any really bad, serious, angry arguments about it. We took a position with him, we told him we would not give him back his masters and although he always insisted in pushing for it, we held our ground. Even many years later, when Edgar Bronfman became chairman of the company and the ownership changed, Prince pushed him to get his']. But we never had any really bad, serious, angry arguments about it. We took a position with him, we told him we would not give him back his masters and although he always insisted in pushing for it, we held our ground.

Former Warner Bros. CEO Mo Ostin Recalls His Long Relationship With Prince: 'He Was a Fearless Artist'

 

[nieman]

Prince was the first time I really understood that the label owned your name and works. And that was '93-'94. I just remember being in my last year of JR High

 

[KravenMorehead™]

Yup

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Prince was the first time I really understood that the label owned your name and works. And that was '93-'94. I just remember being in my last year of JR High

That was also 1 of the things RZA fought for with Wu-Tang Clan ... Loud only had the name WU-Tang but the members had the right to own individual names "outside" the group

 

[Self_Born7]

what did Sam Cooke, MJ, and Prince all have in common?
They all fought against their labels for their own publishing, and each died in a mysterious way

industry rule #4080. never fight these cacs for your publishing, you wind up getting murked.