Was Compton underappreciated due to the times?

[GPBear]

[QUOTE="stomachlines, post: 22013569, member: 15933"

In today's world of Hip Hop, if you not doing what the popular sound of the time, then it seems like there's no room for your sound. Compton ain't anything like what the new nikkas doing at all and Hip Hop has changed so much since Chronic 2001 that I don't even think this generation of Hip Hop fans give a fukk about Hip Hop music that doesn't sound like what everybody else is doing today. Even when Dre took off time between 1992 to 1999, while things had changed, they hadn't changed so much like they had from 1999 to 2015 (longer stretch of time, i know).

So my question, was the Compton underappreciated because of the times and because of how much Hip Hop has changed and the value or rather the bar that was once set for music is so low that now if its not Trap or Trap Soul then it gets the "what the fukk is this shyt?" reaction from it?

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I was interested to see what your argument was, but what I came in here to say I think contradicts your main point, so my answer is "No".

My point is that I thought people didn't like Compton because he did what Cube did back in the day and bit the LA Underground. And how Anderson.Paak was on fire at the time, and he's the definition of the "new" in hip-hop.

That's why I didn't like Compton, I felt like he was trying to be like all the new guys. "Oh Kendrick has Knxwledge on a beat, Knxwledge is doing shyt with .Paak, let me get him on my album and people will think I'm artistic"

 

[I love Latina women]

[QUOTE="stomachlines, post: 22013569, member: 15933"

In today's world of Hip Hop, if you not doing what the popular sound of the time, then it seems like there's no room for your sound. Compton ain't anything like what the new nikkas doing at all and Hip Hop has changed so much since Chronic 2001 that I don't even think this generation of Hip Hop fans give a fukk about Hip Hop music that doesn't sound like what everybody else is doing today. Even when Dre took off time between 1992 to 1999, while things had changed, they hadn't changed so much like they had from 1999 to 2015 (longer stretch of time, i know).

So my question, was the Compton underappreciated because of the times and because of how much Hip Hop has changed and the value or rather the bar that was once set for music is so low that now if its not Trap or Trap Soul then it gets the "what the fukk is this shyt?" reaction from it?

I was interested to see what your argument was, but what I came in here to say I think contradicts your main point, so my answer is "No".

My point is that I thought people didn't like Compton because he did what Cube did back in the day and bit the LA Underground. And how Anderson.Paak was on fire at the time, and he's the definition of the "new" in hip-hop.

That's why I didn't like Compton, I felt like he was trying to be like all the new guys. "Oh Kendrick has Knxwledge on a beat, Knxwledge is doing shyt with .Paak, let me get him on my album and people will think I'm artistic"

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Fair enough

 

[QU Hectic]

The thing is we wanted a Dre album that surpassed Chronic & 2001. With Compton we didn't get that. With that said is it a bad album ? By all means no. But this is an album that was created by Dre to promote a biopic he was heavily involved in and to show a more "holier than thou" persona.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

It's a dope album but I just think in this time frame music is consumed so differently. I think the combination of it not being GREAT (ie like Dre's old shyt) the era and the hype of whatever project Dre was going to release next made for a negative tint on the perception of the album.

I think that can be a good thing though, kinda like getting that quick nut out the way so you can really beat shyt up.



Dre no longer has to worry about super sky high expectations when he drops his next project. He's still legendary and an icon but I think this album getting some luke warm perception makes his next release easier.

What he really needs is to break a NEW artist. His greatest moments have come along with ushering in some of the most unique talents in Hip Hop history. Kendrick probably been that for Detox but that moment never came. He was already established and looking how shyt played out with Rakim and The Firm it seem like working with artists who are pretty much finished products make for better conversation than it does music.

For Dre to truly have the effect on the genre that WE (old nikkas) are used to seeing him have he's gonna have to once again use an album as a launch pad for somebody FRESH. And unlike rappers who need to be center stage he can still do that when he's in his 60's, we're going to get another burner from Dre eventually. But it won't be with him rapping on every song like Compton with features from finished products.

Y'all keep putting on extras. That shyt WASN'T great

 

[SunZoo]

Y'all keep putting on extras. That shyt WASN'T great

I liked it though.



My biggest gripe was Anderson Pak, i'm not really feeling dude like most people and I don't really know why.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

I liked it though.



My biggest gripe was Anderson Pak, i'm not really feeling dude like most people and I don't really know why.

I like a lot of albums,doesn't mean they're great.

 

[Dr.HannibalLecter]

There's no other album like it

And how could there be when there's also no other hip hop billionaire

 

[rushing to paris]

It's got OK replay value. The best thing about it was it acted as a launchpad for Anderson Paak's spectacular 2015/2016.

 

[Flav]

Kids these days don't appreciate hearing professionals bass guitars,strings,pianos,horns ect being played the right way. Yall rather hear the same 808 baseline & boring ass alien synth sound. Dre dropped a sonic professional sounding album with dope lyrics and fans of Lil Boat,YG,Young Thug & Chife Keef called it wack and overproduced....SMH.

 

[InstantKlassik]

I still haven't even bothered to listen to the album

 

[Way Of The Gun]

Album is a dope album. These young boys don't appreciate it because a "old nikka" made it. Meanwhile 21 savage and Dram have top 10 hits. Fact old heads make better TIMELESS music...new heads make songs that are hot because they are part of the culture not because the music is good

Exactly. These nikkas brains are so engulfed in wack shyt they don't know great music.

 

[Roxx the King]

Album is great in the real world. always passes the road trip test

 

[bl2k8]

Only thing I remember from it was deepwater

 

[Zero]

Album is a dope album. These young boys don't appreciate it because a "old nikka" made it. Meanwhile 21 savage and Dram have top 10 hits. Fact old heads make better TIMELESS music...new heads make songs that are hot because they are part of the culture not because the music is good

But people dont like it because it doesn't even begin to match up to his classic work though


Regurgitated rhetoric is never good breh

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Kids these days don't appreciate hearing professionals bass guitars,strings,pianos,horns ect being played the right way. Yall rather hear the same 808 baseline & boring ass alien synth sound. Dre dropped a sonic professional sounding album with dope lyrics and fans of Lil Boat,YG,Young Thug & Chife Keef called it wack and overproduced....SMH.

This is such a cop out and BS excuse.
I'm in my late 30's,far from a kid.
I still regularly listen to oldschool music with plenty of live instruments,nearly every day.
The shyt is just flat. Has no soul in it at all.
YES it has great clarity,great instrumentation,great mixing etc but it's lacking everything else.
It doesnt have the great entertaining stand out verses,stand out hooks or stand out grooves that are in albums like
Straight out of compton
No one can do it better
nikkaz4life
The chronic
Doggystyle

That's why no one cares for it