This only paints part of the picture. It only lists singles and even with it only listing singles, it is a bit misleading. From the list, Sisqo as a solo artist had bigger hits than them all except K-Ci and Jojo. Group wise, Jagged Edge and 112 had bigger singles than Dru Hill and Jodeci according to the list above.
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This only paints part of the picture. It only lists singles and even with it only listing singles, it is a bit misleading. From the list, Sisqo as a solo artist had bigger hits than them all except K-Ci and Jojo. Group wise, Jagged Edge and 112 had bigger singles than Dru Hill and Jodeci according to the list above.
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I must be in living in a n alternate reality from some of you. Because when I was growing up , at in my age group ,Dru Hill was more popular than 112, Jagged Edge, and all of the other groups that were out during that era. Even my oldest brother who will be 40 this year, him and his friends fukked with Dru Hill more then any other R&b group that was around at that time. Even today people still play their song's. I remember being at a party s few years ago, and right in the middle of the party a few of my friend's and I started signing random Dru Hill songs. Just because some of you don't like Dru Hill, doesn't mean other people don't like them. I never saw so much hate towards Dru Hilm until became a member of this Website.
My whole thing wasn't about who was bigger during Dru Hill's run. My point was is that they had a shorter run than 112 and Jagged Edge, which largely contributes to the notion that they were "average" and are moreso unsung. Dru Hill had a long string of hits in a shorter period of time, but when you consider that this was 1996-1999 as a group and Sisqo's 1999-2000 run vs. 1996-2005 for 112 and 1998-2004 for Jagged Edge. None of these groups stopped making music and Dru Hill hasn't had an album that made any noise since the 2002 comeback album.
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Dru Hill was the last great R&B group. Unsung was created to give them their just due. They had 3 huge albums.
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THIS
this is all im saying.
and I was team jagged edge, but im not gonna act like dru hill wasn't easily the biggest group of the era.
1.) @ the bolded: you clearly don't understand the premise of the Unsung show. its not intended for average groups AT ALL.
also, jagged edge had an episode just a year or two ago, and I wouldn't be surprised if 112 gets an episode soon, especially seeing how they've added commentary to numerous episodes.
so by your logic, I guess all these groups are average.
2.) it usually doesn't matter who stuck around longer. its mostly about the impact. you act as if dru hill were some one-hit wonders or something.
3.) you still continue to shorten dru hill's run while expanding 112's. if youre gonna say dru hill was done after '99, then you should cut 112's run at 2001. cuz after that, they really only had that one popular song in 2005. at least dru hill had 2 popular cuts n that '02-03 run. jagged edge had the longest run out of all of them. you can go well past 2004.
I think blackstreet is left out of this discussion cuz theyre older.
they date back to CB4.
unless you want to narrow it down to the 3rd version of the group(no diggity era), but they got played out quick.
1.) since when are jodeci albums held in high-regard by non-casuals??
lesbianest, nobody listened to a jodeci album all the way thru.
lol @ dru hill being a singles group when they dropped a classic album out the gate.
2.) what stimulus pack did dru hill have??
3.) both groups benefited by being with JD & puff. theres been plenty of groups who were just as/or more talented. 112 especially benefited and I gave a prime example of a mirror group from that era who capped off as one-hit wonders.
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112, Jagged Edge, and Dru Hill are all Unsung material. Again, my point here is that Dru had a shorter run even though they had more hits during that run. And yes, they had a "stimulus" if you will. Their careers started from a song ("Tell Me") they contributed to a soundtrack. Two of their biggest hits were soundtrack songs from huge movies ("We're Not Making Love" from the Soul Food soundtrack and "How Deep Is Your Love" from Rush Hour). They benefited from the So So Def stimulus being they weren't signed to the label, but "In My Bed" remix featuring JD and Da Brat produced by JD extended the life of that song.
And again, you show you don't know what you're talking about. 112 dropped an album in 2001 that had hits ("It's Over Now" and "Peaches & Cream").Nothing Dru Hill did after 1999 was popular. You're overeating the singles from '02-'03 something awful.
Dru Hill was not relevant in in 2004. The group was done by then. They went independent with an album that dropped nearly an entire decade later.
When it comes to R&B, you're a casual. Nobody that is a serious R&B head is putting Dru Hill albums over Jodeci albums.
Tell Me wasn’t on a soundtrack.
So So Def stimulus?
They did one song together, and that was after their album already was out and reached plat.
I agree Dru Hill was over by 2004, actually more like 2002. Sisqo was a punch line after the R. Kelly beef and fans were tired of him.
I’d put Dru Hill first two albums against any Jodeci album song for song.
And I like Jodeci better, but none of their albums have more than 5-6 good songs
"Tell Me" appeared on the soundtrack to Eddie. It was the second single after Coolio's "All The Way Live", which was also a hit.
Stimulus implies that an artist benefits in one way or another by associating or getting an assist from another artist (usually bigger). By that logic Dru Hill definitely benefited from the So So Def remix. Again, it extended the life of "In My Bed". They performed that version on the Soul Traon Awards and it appears on their Best of Dru Hill.
Breh, you may put Dru Hill's first two albums over any Jodeci album. This isn't about personal preference. There is no way you're telling me that any Dru Hill album is more highly regarded than Jodeci's first three.
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@JustCKing misquoted the hell out of me.
I never said dru hill was relevant in 2004.
only thing I slightly disagree with in this post is the sisqo thing, as dru hill wasn't really affected by the eventual sisqo backlash and did a great job of keeping the group as a separate entity.
3rd album was a dud tho, but they did what they were supposed to do with the singles. 1st one was a hit, then they dropped a classic slow jam with the 2nd single. I don't see how he thinks he can extend 112's relevance while shortening dru hill's and originally trying to say that dru hill hadn't been relevant since 1998.
youre doing a ton of misquoting and reaching. LOL @ your stimulus arguments.
I never said dru hill was relevant in 2004.
I never said 112 wasn't relevant in 2001. im saying that AFTER 2001, theyre only really known for that one joint in "you already know".
also, you already let it be known that you don't understand the premise of Unsung, and instead of admitting it, youre trying to talk around it.
so youre saying that all of these groups were average by your standards?
and I see that youre experiencing a culture shock. jodeci isn't popular because of their albums bro. their albums are popular because of their singles/brand.
only pump-fakers rank their albums highly.
saying ***insert name*** had a better album than jodeci isn't even that big of a compliment.
see chit like this.
most people never even checked for the Eddie soundtrack. what did dru hill gain from being on there?
not to mention that the video dropped months later, had no movie clips in the video and never listed the soundtrack in the video credits.
"in my bed" was huge before the remix and dru hill was already the hottest group.
sure the remix made it even bigger, but it didn't make them. they also had a slow jam on the airwaves right along with it, in "never make a promise".
jodeci's albums aren't highly-regarded. theyre just albums released by JODECI. and jodeci is...…..JODECI. the biggest safe go-to name for people to cite.
their own stans only bumped half of their cuts on each album.
but they were clicking so hard on literally all other cylinders, that they got a pass, but when we start debating down to the nitty-gritty with this chit, they get called out for it.
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@JustCKing misquoted the hell out of me.
I never said dru hill was relevant in 2004.
only thing I slightly disagree with in this post is the sisqo thing, as dru hill wasn't really affected by the eventual sisqo backlash and did a great job of keeping the group as a separate entity.
3rd album was a dud tho, but they did what they were supposed to do with the singles. 1st one was a hit, then they dropped a classic slow jam with the 2nd single. I don't see how he thinks he can extend 112's relevance while shortening dru hill's and originally trying to say that dru hill hadn't been relevant since 1998.
youre doing a ton of misquoting and reaching. LOL @ your stimulus arguments.
I never said dru hill was relevant in 2004.
I never said 112 wasn't relevant in 2001. im saying that AFTER 2001, theyre only really known for that one joint in "you already know".
also, you already let it be known that you don't understand the premise of Unsung, and instead of admitting it, youre trying to talk around it.
so youre saying that all of these groups were average by your standards?
and I see that youre experiencing a culture shock. jodeci isn't popular because of their albums bro. their albums are popular because of their singles/brand.
only pump-fakers rank their albums highly.
saying ***insert name*** had a better album than jodeci isn't even that big of a compliment.
see chit like this.
most people never even checked for the Eddie soundtrack. what did dru hill gain from being on there?
not to mention that the video dropped months later, had no movie clips in the video and never listed the soundtrack in the video credits.
"in my bed" was huge before the remix and dru hill was already the hottest group.
sure the remix made it even bigger, but it didn't make them. they also had a slow jam on the airwaves right along with it, in "never make a promise".
jodeci's albums aren't highly-regarded. theyre just albums released by JODECI. and jodeci is...…..JODECI. the biggest safe go-to name for people to cite.
their own stans only bumped half of their cuts on each album.
but they were clicking so hard on literally all other cylinders, that they got a pass, but when we start debating down to the nitty-gritty with this chit, they get called out for it.
My bad on the mis-read of the part of your post in regard to Dru being relevant in 2004.
I wasn't cutting anyone's run short. You're acknowledging that 112 was relevant in 2001 and had a hit in 2005. You can't say the same for Dru. You do realize that both groups debuted within months of each other. Again, 112 had a longer run. And more importantly, I never said that made Dru Hill average. My whole point with even mentioning 112 and Jagged Edge is how Dru Hill could be viewed as "below average". They had a shorter run than both groups.
I fully understand the premise of an Unsung. Still, Unsung goes off on a tangent a lot and honors groups and artists who were more so one shot deals or had some hits and fell on hard times in the industry vs artists and groups who are generally viewed as legendary acts, but their legacies are slept on, dismissed, or forgotten. 112, Jagged, and Dru fall into the latter category.
In terms of a stimulus, you are agreeing that Dru Hill benefited from the So So Def remix. Also the original was a Darryl Simmons standard and he was as big in the R&B world as Jermaine Dupri and was more respected and proven as a hitmaker in R&B than Bad Boy. He didn't just co-write and co-produce the og "In My Bed" for Dru either. He did other songs for them.
And yes, Dru Hill benefited from being on soubdtracks from the beginning of the career from Eddie to How To Be A Player to Soul Food to Rush Hour to Wild Wild West.
Jodeci's albums are highly regarded. If bot you couldn't use them to "pump fake" your way into anything. It's like Illmatic or Paid In Full. Iconic albums that are go to albums that people who aren't knowledgeable could name drop to look like they know what they are talking about.
Jodeci is Jodeci because of those albums and no nobody, but posters on The Booth calls out Jodeci for not having classic albums. Outside of The Booth, those albums are classics. And no a classic album isn't some flawless piece of perfection.
Tell Me being on the Eddie soundtrack is new to me didn’t know that.
Without googling it, I think Eddie was with Whoopi or Rhea Perlman coaching the Knicks... I may be getting it mixed up with Sunset Park
I ain’t seen that shyt in years.
I do remember Dru being on Soul Food sdtrck and the joint with Foxy on another soundtrack... maybe Booty Call or Woo can’t remember off top.
Forever My Lady and Diary of a Mad Band are classic albums, but in comparison, track for track I’ll take Dru Hill or Enter the Dru over both.
K-Ci is the definitive male vocal lead of the 90’s. He is that era, no question.
Without googling it, I think Eddie was with Whoopi or Rhea Perlman coaching the Knicks... I may be getting it mixed up with Sunset Park
I ain’t seen that shyt in years.
I do remember Dru being on Soul Food sdtrck and the joint with Foxy on another soundtrack... maybe Booty Call or Woo can’t remember off top.
Forever My Lady and Diary of a Mad Band are classic albums, but in comparison, track for track I’ll take Dru Hill or Enter the Dru over both.
K-Ci is the definitive male vocal lead of the 90’s. He is that era, no question.
Maybe I just don’t remember clearly.
I wasnt even a teen yet. But previous to that I was a big Dru/Sisqo fan.
I don’t remember that 3rd album having much impact. I Should Be was ok, but I don’t remember it getting played much on 106 or radio. Plus they added that new nicca and I was like mehhhh.
112 and JE had passed them at that point in popularity, and B2K.
Actually I can’t think of any RnB groups that really popped after the ones I just named. Maybe Pretty Ricky, if you can call that a RnB group.
