Was "Hardhome" the best episode of Game of Thrones? "Night's Watch, with me!"

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I don't trust peoples opinion on things

On of the most beautiful women I know asked me to binge watch it with her....I did and got hooked

That's actually how I started i think. Can't remember now. I started back in 2017, I believe. Or 2016.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Nikka you high? Assassin's kill highly protected POLITICAL figures. That is the whole fukking point of assassination. Cerci supposed to die by her hand.

Jon been fighting the Night King for fukkING 7 GOT DAMN SEASONS. CAME FACE TO FACE WITH HIM 5 fukkING TIMES. LOST ALL HIS FRIENDS TO HIM. GOT RESURRECTED TO FIGHT HIM. WAS THE ONLY PURPOSE OF HIM EVEN EXISTING AFTER DEATH. Jesus.

Breh is madder than me and I'm the one who made the thread

 

[Vεnεficα]

I just binge watched this show a few months ago shyt was overrated. It wasn't a bad TV show, I found it enjoyable but it definitely didn't deserve all the hype that was surrounding it.

 

[5n0man]

He was also clearly at least 20 in the show.
He was a king at war, against a family with more men with better armor than he had.

Marrying a traveling nurse gaining nothing, is the stupidest thing he could've done, and Robb was never said to be stupid.
And it legit surprises me that you're defending that bs, since it speaks to how little the showrunners respected viewers intelligence, that they gave us that.

It makes more sense in the books since the girl wasn't just some random nurse Rob decided to marry.

She was apart of a high ranking lanister connected family and if I remember correctly, Rob being engaged to her kepted her family out of the war until the red wedding. Rob might have thought there was a tactical advantage to marrying her.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

he was breaking oaths before he was dead like fukking that ugly wildling bytch

He had to play along

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

That's another thing that didn't make sense. They left out Jamie telling tyrion something before he flees kings landing in the book. Tyrion confronting his dad makes zero sense story wise on the show.

I took it as he had a suspicion like...

" how did my dad get my woman to turn on me so quick.... I know he aint... can't be... I can't leave without checking this ish out..."


I think if his dad hasn't been doing his woman, Tywin lives. Killing him was a crime of passion. He was more mad about him sleeping with Shae than trying to have him killed.

 

[Mook]

The show did this one great because in the show she actually cared for him and she betrayed him because she felt he betrayed her. In the book, Shae is super flat. By the time she died, I just realized every single time she was with Tyrion she was always fukking, asking him to fukk or asking him for jewelry while show Shae wanted to be more than that.



Tbh he hated his dad in the show because of all the shyt he put him through. At this point, Tyrion really thinks his dad wants to kill him so he killed him first. The book just does it better because it reminded us of the truth of Tysha which the show just forgot after a certain point.

Nah see none of it makes sense without Jamie confessing the tysha girl really loved him. Tyrion already knew they hated and wanted to kill him dude lmao. Shae was a whore story of his life. But tysha, holy shyt someone actually loved him for real. And he took her. That's evil, now tyrion has to find out what happens to her.

Now everything else makes sense for him to go to the queen dynardis. It's crazy.

 

[The Plug]

Nah see none of it makes sense without Jamie confessing the tysha girl really loved him. Tyrion already knew they hated and wanted to kill him dude lmao. Shae was a whore story of his life. But tysha, holy shyt someone actually loved him for real. And he took her. That's evil, now tyrion has to find out what happens to her.

Now everything else makes sense for him to go to the queen dynardis. It's crazy.

There's a big difference when your daddy hates you and there's another difference when your daddy presides over a trial that leads to your execution. That was the last straw. Like I said, the book made the point stronger but it was already strong in the show.

The book Tyrion wasn't originally going for Daenerys anyway, he was meant for prince Aegon.

 

[Piff Perkins]

This nikka Rob Stark is an idiot.

You can see the exact moment that leads to his downfall.

My nikka couldn't resist that p*ssy for NOTHIN

I feel like the context in the book makes it more understandable. In the show he marries someone from a country across the sea on another continent, solely because they fall in love.

In the books, Robb takes an arrow to the shoulder while scaling a castle during a battle. He is grievously wounded and is nursed back to life by the lady of the castle he conquered. Her family are Lannister bannermen but bow to Robb/pledge fealty after the battle. Anyway while still bed ridden, he learns that his brothers have allegedly been killed and she stays with him through the night. They fukk, she gets pregnant and he marries her in order to uphold her honor.

It’s that Stark honor shyt basically. He doesn’t want the child to grow up and be mistreated as a b*stard, like his brother Jon Snow was. The show doesn’t do enough to highlight how close Robb and Jon were either. Catelyn hated how close they were but Robb loved his nikka Jon.

 

[The Plug]

It’s that Stark honor shyt basically. He doesn’t want the child to grow up and be mistreated as a b*stard, like his brother Jon Snow was. The show doesn’t do enough to highlight how close Robb and Jon were either. Catelyn hated how close they were but Robb loved his nikka Jon.

I actually think the show did a better job showing how close rob & jon were since we saw them interact a bit more. Robb is truly a side character in the book so we barely read anything from his perspective. Robb in the show however was a main character.

He didn't have to worry about a b*stard because unlike the books his wife got pregnant quickly.

 

[Piff Perkins]

I actually think the show did a better job showing how close rob & jon were since we saw them interact a bit more. Robb is truly a side character in the book so we barely read anything from his perspective. Robb in the show however was a main character.

He didn't have to worry about a b*stard because unlike the books his wife got pregnant quickly.

I like how it’s done in the books too. Robb only appears in Catelyn chapters after the first book, yet is constantly talked about in other chapters. He becomes almost a living legend or myth. You hear about him winning battles, you hear Lannister propaganda trying to slander the man, you read about Jon thinking about him, etc.

The show making him a main character on screen was smart though. Even Martin has admitted he thinks making him a POV character would have been smart. He didn’t do it because he said he didn’t want any kings in the book to have their own POV.

 

[The region 219]

I knew D & D was gonn fukk this whole thing up in season 5 when Stanis flipped from "don't ever fukking think about bringing up sacrificing my daughter again" to "well, let's burn her alive I have no choice" without truly fleshing it out.

Like that is a huge change of mind for a father and the sequence that caused it was a couple of tents being burned and some dudes dying.

 

[Sterling Archer]

The story isn't supposed to foreshadow Arya killing the Night King because that is too flat of an arc, y'all want lineal stories where the obvious hero makes the obvious final move when nothing about GOT was based in straightforwardness.

The point is that everybody ended up doing what was best for the Seven Kingdoms or dying. Arya avenged her family but her path called for a higher/greater purpose than serving her own wishes alone.

I don't care for how Jon Snow ended up either because he was the perfect king and there was a way they could've done it but Arya killing the Night King made sense.

If you think Jon was supposed to be flying around doing nothing lost in the clouds instead of having his fade with the Night King, you tripping. Especially after Hardhomme. The two worst things that destroyed this show was how they handled Dany and how they handled the Night King.

 

[Eternally Jaded]

Yeah if anything I would say Ned had his own sense of honor. A sort of self righteousness if you will. Taking his nephew and letting his wife think he cheated on her caused more issues than I'm sure it was worth. But he was keeping his promise to his sister, which he placed in higher importance than the trust of his wife.

Even hating Jamie for killing Aerys Targaryan. He knew Jamie did the right thing. But he hated him for it.

Letting Jon Snow suffer and never know the truth about his mother... that wasn't right and it was the reason for a lot of unnecessary conflict.

Even let Jon go to the wall, without the knowledge of his true lineage. Maybe if Jon knew, it would have changed the trajectory of his life and made him feel as if he had a place in the world.

Still missing the point.

Ned and Catelyn had the healthiest marriage of any of the big couples in the books. They raised smart, disciplined and just being honest impressive kids.

Jon Snow was definitely a sore point, but it was a small price to pay to ensure his sister's son had a happy childhood home, which he did have.
It wasn't until he got the Wall that he understood this, but it's the truth.

Jaime did not do the right thing.
Once he killed the pyromancers, the immediate threat was gone. Subdue Aerys, turn him over to the rebels and maybe ensure his princes kids don't get murdered and the wife raped n then murdered as well.
Jaime killed Aerys for his own satisfaction, and then did nothing while the remaining royals were brutalized by his father's men.
A trial for Aerys would've tied the rebellion off neatly, but instead his sworn guard cut him open from behind, sullying the movement.

He should've told Jon, true but again, he was thinking about the safety of the majority. Jon is safe in a Stark institution, and not getting himself killed seeking out his crazy relatives across the sea in exile.

If you think Ned was self-righteous, you're not paying attention.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I'm on the part when Tyrion and Bronn wanted details on what happened with Pod and the prostitutes


Lil nikka wore them hoes OUT



Why didn't they show that scene??

If this was Spartacus, we would have got a full length porn episode showing us everything that went down. Showrunners was trippin from JUMP