Was listening to the radio. What exactly happened to cause the downfall of Hip Hop?

Mac Ten

Class of 97 !!!
Joined
Dec 15, 2019
Messages
10,146
Reputation
3,375
Daps
18,605
Reppin
B-More
For the 10th time…it was Chief Keef, and I’m not joking. When ‘Don’t Like’ came out, that nikka changed the world, literally. Hiphop was already on a downtrend but that song made every young nikka in the world want to be a Chicago nikka, and it just kept spiraling out of control from there…

I remember for a good couple years from 2012-2014, folks wanted to grow dreads and True Religion Jeans were flying off the shelves...

Back in 2014, I remember saying that I had a whole class full of thots(I didnt know what it meant until she told me) and my teacher pulled me to the side and chastised me for it.


Chief Keef, DJ Akademiks, and Young Scooter were the highlights of my high school years. My Mom couldnt let me play Chief Keef in the car either
 

NYChase718

Veteran
Joined
Aug 16, 2012
Messages
30,524
Reputation
3,286
Daps
107,357
Reppin
NULL
"What it is hoe?, What's up!
Every bad girl need a lil thugggggg
Every block boy need a lil loveeee"

Was listening to radio in a Lyft and this was number 3 on the Sunday top 10.

Lol, complete elementary music. My 8 year old niece can write this.

Was thinking when i heard it how the lyrics is encouraging girls to chase thugs
And guys to be thugs to get women
 

Mac Ten

Class of 97 !!!
Joined
Dec 15, 2019
Messages
10,146
Reputation
3,375
Daps
18,605
Reppin
B-More
We as a people falling off. When we stopped being shamed so did hip hop. When we stopped hiding the hoes in the family so did hip-hop. When we stopped being ashamed of our drug dealing/taking folks so did hip hop.

These single mother homes scared of these kids. Ain't no more wait till your father gets home.

Yes cacs play a roll but they ain't nothing but carpetbaggers they hop on any money making trend that's bubbling. Artist development has gone out the window. Sign, profit, drop, rinse, repeat.

Disposable art.

Bring back the shame/standards.


Hip Hop used to be the voice of the Ghetto...


NWA went too cartoonish after Cube left though.

Shame aint coming back due to folks saying


"They getting money, stop hating".
 

Ghost Utmost

The Soul of the Internet
Supporter
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
20,202
Reputation
8,650
Daps
73,589
Reppin
the Aether
People have been jamming to horrendously wack shyt for nigh on 20 years now.

I can hardly listen to the Chronic cause the rhymes are wack. But at least the production is sharp.

This contemporary Rap is garbage lyrics on top of garbage tracks.

My question is how did people play this trash and bump it for so fukcing long? Y'all looking for someone to blame but how do record execs and OGs control what people play willingly.

Tekashi has MILLIONS of views. I bet the same people never play his shyt in 2023. Yet they sent this funny looking mf all the way to the moon on a rocket a few years ago.

WHY??!
 

BlackBall

Superstar
Joined
Dec 9, 2014
Messages
16,208
Reputation
4,026
Daps
46,301
Let’s lots of good underground that’s deemed too weird I guess? Billy woods comes to mind
 

TheMailMan

All Star
Joined
Mar 11, 2022
Messages
3,206
Reputation
779
Daps
7,375
Not even gonna front but I miss the days when rappers were dancing and making goofy songs.







3 songs 3 different regions 3 different sounds . We really don't get that anymore which is part of the problem
 

69 others

Superstar
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
6,542
Reputation
786
Daps
24,257
Reppin
NULL
you know who but i also think rap should have been broken up into more subgenres. to separate certain sounds and encourage others to stick to a lane. everything is just rap and everyone is trying to make the same shyt for the most part.
 
Joined
Dec 13, 2019
Messages
364
Reputation
184
Daps
1,564
Hip Hop used to be the voice of the Ghetto...


NWA went too cartoonish after Cube left though.

Shame aint coming back due to folks saying


"They getting money, stop hating".
Hip hop used to be the voice of the "ghetto" and just fly regular folks just wanted to have fun. Now if you ain't a stripping hoe or dope boy you not invited.

Rappers use to hide that part in fear of losing fans now they glorify it. Cacs do their part in promoting it and now nothing else is considered cool.

Yeah, the get the bag syndrome has almost killed the culture.
 

Bonk

God’s Son
Supporter
Joined
Jun 11, 2017
Messages
4,430
Reputation
1,154
Daps
16,765
Reppin
In Da 15th
Hip hop died when that crunk music sound went mainstream & the traditional base of hip hop started trying to do the same sound.

Nas, 50cent, The Game, Dipset & D Block tried to keep the needed balance but the whole thing just went downhill when their sales & commercial success dipped.

Then you have Lil Wayne who fathered the drug-addled rap that sired these modern mumbling rappers.

So, you can't just blame record labels - you have to blame crunk music & Lil Wayne as well. They all played different roles in destroying hip hop.

Nas is a prophet - he said 'hip hop is dead' & shyt ain't been the same since then.
 

semicko82

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Oct 9, 2012
Messages
32,471
Reputation
5,939
Daps
93,922
Reppin
NULL
People have been jamming to horrendously wack shyt for nigh on 20 years now.

I can hardly listen to the Chronic cause the rhymes are wack. But at least the production is sharp.


This contemporary Rap is garbage lyrics on top of garbage tracks.

My question is how did people play this trash and bump it for so fukcing long? Y'all looking for someone to blame but how do record execs and OGs control what people play willingly.

Tekashi has MILLIONS of views. I bet the same people never play his shyt in 2023. Yet they sent this funny looking mf all the way to the moon on a rocket a few years ago.

WHY??!
 

Sauce and Footwork

Superstar
Joined
Mar 11, 2022
Messages
4,164
Reputation
1,523
Daps
20,288
Hip hop died when that crunk music sound went mainstream & the traditional base of hip hop started trying to do the same sound.

Nas, 50cent, The Game, Dipset & D Block tried to keep the needed balance but the whole thing just went downhill when their sales & commercial success dipped.

Then you have Lil Wayne who fathered the drug-addled rap that sired these modern mumbling rappers.

So, you can't just blame record labels - you have to blame crunk music & Lil Wayne as well. They all played different roles in destroying hip hop.

Nas is a prophet - he said 'hip hop is dead' & shyt ain't been the same since then.
Naw we not about to let up north I’m a gangster real nikka groups and artist get a pass..And NY nikkas like 50 Cent shifted hip hop and led on an era where they was putting an extra emphasis on bringing gangster rap back and all these nikkas upped the ante on rapping about killing nikkas and packing heat. Everybody needed to be a thug again. The south (well Atlanta) atleast was about dancing and having a good time during that era atleast in contrast to all that up north I’m a gangster bullshyt. Lil Wayne for sure didn’t help with the druggie music. But this was an all coast collaboration.
 

JNew

Superstar
Joined
Aug 23, 2019
Messages
4,782
Reputation
725
Daps
19,352
I have a take you may never hear again but...

Ringtone rap was the last rap music that was actually enjoyable. Catchy dance tunes, that knew what they where and weren't tying to prove something. Basically Pop/Rap that still personified black culture .:yeshrug:

If I had to say that's really the closing curtain to rap music as a "black outlet for culture", right before in general everything tuned into propaganda and money driven outlets for big corporations (Ie. Walmart).

Big labels pimped it out and its been fuuked beyond recognition.

Now its just a drug, steal and general degeneracy music that propagandized youngin into associating it with black culture, but their just the face of it. Mumble rap raised a generation of men who think its ok to talk like you have no sense, steal, kill, get stung out on drugs and all just for the helll of it.


The only thing to save rap is to have the money dry up.
 

semicko82

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Oct 9, 2012
Messages
32,471
Reputation
5,939
Daps
93,922
Reppin
NULL
I have a take you may never hear again but...

Ringtone rap was the last rap music that was actually enjoyable. Catchy dance tunes, that knew what they where and weren't tying to prove something. Basically Pop/Rap that still personified black culture .:yeshrug:

If I had to say that's really the closing curtain to rap music as a "black outlet for culture", right before in general everything tuned into propaganda and money driven outlets for big corporations (Ie. Walmart).

Big labels pimped it out and its been fuuked beyond recognition.

Now its just a drug, steal and general degeneracy music that propagandized youngin into associating it with black culture, but their just the face of it. Mumble rap raised a generation of men who think its ok to talk like you have no sense, steal, kill, get stung out on drugs and all just for the helll of it.


The only thing to save rap is to have the money dry up.
Only mumble rap?
 
Top