Was MJ really that much better than Kareem??

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No, YOU don't give a fukk about the record because Jordan doesn't have it. If Jordan had that record you'd be spouting about it all through this thread.
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Like i've said before, there's a God-tier and a marathon-tier for the GOATs. MJ and Wilt are on that God-tier. MJ had 10 scoring titles in 12 full years as a Bull. God-mode. 6 rings in 12 full years.

Karl Malone and Kareem are on that marathon-tier. Playing so long, you stumble into records. Same thing with brett Favre who played forever and got all these records but aint no one putting him ahead of brady or manning or montana or even marino.

Kareem got 6 rings. Cool. But 2 FMVPs? As trivial as it sounds, how do you play in 20 all star games and got no all-star MVPs? Da fukk? How is that possible you cant shine amongst your peers when yall are together?

Dudes bringing up high school and college. Dude, when you're 7'2" playing against potato chip eating 5'6" teenagers, you better fukking dominate their midget asses. Who gives a fukk about your 10th grade dominance. What did you do against those professional men? Jordan dominated. Longevity? Kudos. Accomploshing more in less time is the definition of someone being better than another person. If someone goes to the line 10 times (kareem) and makes 6 free throws, he is not a better free throw shooter than the person who goes 6 for 6 at the line (MJ). And folks love talking about Jordan dominating unathletic guards, who was kareems equivalent in the 70s? Fat wes unseld and all 6 foot 7 inches of him at center? Or was it 6'9" elvin hayes(who shut kareem down in college on national television:heh:)? Or 6'9" willis reed? Or 6'11" walt bellamy? Of course your shot was unguardqble against these fukking munchkins. What 70s center was 7'+ that he dominated? Had flabby ass 36 year old wilt punching his shyt into the stands when he finally faced a real 7' athlete.
 
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People who are trying to discredit Kareem for not being the best player on the late 80s Lakers teams:

Individual players don't have control over the talent that surrounds them. Was Kareem his own GM? Is it his fault that much of his prime (1975-79) was wasted without a talented supporting caste? Similarly, how can you blame him for winning on teams when he had the opportunity later on in his career when he had declined a bit?
 
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YoungMonkeyCashMonkeyBoy said:
Like i've said before, there's a God-tier and a marathon-tier for the GOATs. MJ and Wilt are on that God-tier. MJ had 10 scoring titles in 12 full years as a Bull. God-mode. 6 rings in 12 full years.

Karl Malone and Kareem are on that marathon-tier. Playing so long, you stumble into records. Same thing with brett Favre who played forever and got all these records but aint no one putting him ahead of brady or manning or montana or even marino.

Kareem got 6 rings. Cool. But 2 FMVPs? As trivial as it sounds, how do you play in 20 all star games and got no all-star MVPs? Da fukk? How is that possible you cant shine amongst your peers when yall are together?

Dudes bringing up high school and college. Dude, when you're 7'2" playing against potato chip eating 5'6" teenagers, you better fukking dominate their midget asses. Who gives a fukk about your 10th grade dominance. What did you do against those professional men? Jordan dominated. Longevity? Kudos. Accomploshing more in less time is the definition of someone being better than another person. If someone goes to the line 10 times (kareem) and makes 6 free throws, he is not a better free throw shooter than the person who goes 6 for 6 at the line (MJ). And folks love talking about Jordan dominating unathletic guards, who was kareems equivalent in the 70s? Fat wes unseld and all 6 foot 7 inches of him at center? Or was it 6'9" elvin hayes(who shut kareem down in college on national television:heh:)? Or 6'9" willis reed? Or 6'11" walt bellamy? Of course your shot was unguardqble against these fukking munchkins. What 70s center was 7'+ that he dominated? Had flabby ass 36 year old wilt punching his shyt into the stands when he finally faced a real 7' athlete.
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HE ONLY PLAYED 18 GAMES IN 86 DUE TO A BROKEN FOOT.

:mjgrin:6 NBA TITLES IN 11 YEARS....
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YoungMonkeyCashMonkeyBoy said:
Like i've said before, there's a God-tier and a marathon-tier for the GOATs. MJ and Wilt are on that God-tier. MJ had 10 scoring titles in 12 full years as a Bull. God-mode. 6 rings in 12 full years.

Karl Malone and Kareem are on that marathon-tier. Playing so long, you stumble into records. Same thing with brett Favre who played forever and got all these records but aint no one putting him ahead of brady or manning or montana or even marino.

Kareem got 6 rings. Cool. But 2 FMVPs? As trivial as it sounds, how do you play in 20 all star games and got no all-star MVPs? Da fukk? How is that possible you cant shine amongst your peers when yall are together?

Dudes bringing up high school and college. Dude, when you're 7'2" playing against potato chip eating 5'6" teenagers, you better fukking dominate their midget asses. Who gives a fukk about your 10th grade dominance. What did you do against those professional men? Jordan dominated. Longevity? Kudos. Accomploshing more in less time is the definition of someone being better than another person. If someone goes to the line 10 times (kareem) and makes 6 free throws, he is not a better free throw shooter than the person who goes 6 for 6 at the line (MJ). And folks love talking about Jordan dominating unathletic guards, who was kareems equivalent in the 70s? Fat wes unseld and all 6 foot 7 inches of him at center? Or was it 6'9" elvin hayes(who shut kareem down in college on national television:heh:)? Or 6'9" willis reed? Or 6'11" walt bellamy? Of course your shot was unguardqble against these fukking munchkins. What 70s center was 7'+ that he dominated? Had flabby ass 36 year old wilt punching his shyt into the stands when he finally faced a real 7' athlete.
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How is Kareem not in the God teir with some of the seasons he had :francis:

Dude was a GOAT level PLAYER (career wise also)
 
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YoungMonkeyCashMonkeyBoy said:
Like i've said before, there's a God-tier and a marathon-tier for the GOATs. MJ and Wilt are on that God-tier. MJ had 10 scoring titles in 12 full years as a Bull. God-mode. 6 rings in 12 full years.

Karl Malone and Kareem are on that marathon-tier. Playing so long, you stumble into records. Same thing with brett Favre who played forever and got all these records but aint no one putting him ahead of brady or manning or montana or even marino.

Kareem got 6 rings. Cool. But 2 FMVPs? As trivial as it sounds, how do you play in 20 all star games and got no all-star MVPs? Da fukk? How is that possible you cant shine amongst your peers when yall are together?

Dudes bringing up high school and college. Dude, when you're 7'2" playing against potato chip eating 5'6" teenagers, you better fukking dominate their midget asses. Who gives a fukk about your 10th grade dominance. What did you do against those professional men? Jordan dominated. Longevity? Kudos. Accomploshing more in less time is the definition of someone being better than another person. If someone goes to the line 10 times (kareem) and makes 6 free throws, he is not a better free throw shooter than the person who goes 6 for 6 at the line (MJ). And folks love talking about Jordan dominating unathletic guards, who was kareems equivalent in the 70s? Fat wes unseld and all 6 foot 7 inches of him at center? Or was it 6'9" elvin hayes(who shut kareem down in college on national television:heh:)? Or 6'9" willis reed? Or 6'11" walt bellamy? Of course your shot was unguardqble against these fukking munchkins. What 70s center was 7'+ that he dominated? Had flabby ass 36 year old wilt punching his shyt into the stands when he finally faced a real 7' athlete.
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You are trying to portray Kareem as a compiler who hung around forever. That is very misleading. The reality is that he was a dominant player.

6 MVPs. That says it all. More than anyone else. You can't do that and not be one of the most dominant payers in history.


As for your argument about 70s centers that he dominated: Kareem gave Wilt Chamberlain all he could handle. Wilt won some battles, Kareem won some. That's what happens when the titans clash. How about Bill Walton? Kareem regularly dropped 30-40 on Walton.

But forget about the 70s. Go watch tapes from the 80s and see how an old, balding, declining Kareem played against people like Artis Gilmore, Caldwell Jones, Darryl Dawkins. See how he regularly demanded double teams from the celebrated Parish-McHale Celtics front line.


To give you some perspective: the 1985 Finals featured two of the top ten players in history (Magic Johnson and Larry Bird) in the primes of their careers. And yet the player who demanded more attention from the defense than either of them, the player who took over and dominated the series was a 38-year-old Kareem. A flabby-and-sick Kareem a decade removed from his prime was the best player on the court. Think about it and let it sink in just how remarkable that is.
 
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