Sankofa Alwayz
#FBADOS #B1 #D(M)V #KnowThyself #WaveGod
Major KRIT fan
Not from the South but all that unwarranted slander them NY folks in the audience gave my nikka KRIT was just
worthy.
Was this '95 Source Awards really a pivotal moment in hiphop?
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Major KRIT fan
Not from the South but all that unwarranted slander them NY folks in the audience gave my nikka KRIT was just
worthy.
Sankofa Alwayz
#FBADOS #B1 #D(M)V #KnowThyself #WaveGod
Now NY is the laughing stock of rap music
the biggest bangers from NY is a chick from detroit, a chick that acts like nikka, a nikka that sound like fewcha and a non black chick who admits to drugging & robbing nikkas
not to mention, no black people running ny radio morning shows
Who?
to clarify the comments weren't actually made in 2010 but rather came to light that year. if i had to guess i'd say it had to be around '97 or so, anyway here's what i found:
This past May during an interview with TheMostInfluential.com, up-and-coming New Orleans emcee Jay Electronica responded to a comment Wu-Tang Clan head honcho the RZA had made years prior in Rap Pages about the lack of intelligence in the South.
“I took offense with RZA in that [comment about the South],” he said during the interview. “Peace unto RZA. That’s my brother, and RZA had a great effect on me. I wouldn’t be who I am if it wasn’t for RZA and the music he made with Wu-Tang Clan. But also RZA, you said some crazy, wild shyt…[A comment like the RZA’s] would be like me coming to New York or another place and saying you’re of a lesser intelligence because you’re not knowledgeable about my circumstance or environment.”
MTV’s Sway recently caught up with the Abbot to discuss Jay Electronica’s controversial remarks. The RZA clarified his previous statement, saying that he was speaking out personal experience with his extended family, who comes from the South.
“I know I said a few things about the South throughout my career in different periods,” RZA told Sway. “I remember I did an article in Rap Pages years ago, ’cause me and Master P had a talk about this years ago. I was speaking on the education level in the South, how brothers drop out in the sixth grade – some of them because they have to go to work, some of them because of the poverty, some because they’re not interested in the education system, how their dialect in speaking and how their vocabulary was limited…just a lot of crazy things that people from up North had evolved from. When I was doing this article, I was talking about my own family at first.
“My family comes from the South. My grandpa, my grandma, they’re frying fat back in the kitchen, Grandpops didn’t have more than a sixth-grade reading level…my grandma was a welfare mom. A lot of my family from that generation was basically lost…but up in New York, my family was able to get knowledge of ourselves, and so you’d see brothers like me, GZA, Dirty and that generation of cousins and youth all reading books and studying and perfecting our mentalities.”
The RZA later added that he was simply pointing out an observation on the geographical disparity with respect to education. At the same time, however, he says that he feels the expansiveness of the Internet and of Hip-Hop culture brings new educational opportunities to all regions of the United States.
“The truth is the truth, first of all: the South has evolved later than us [up North],” he explain. “You can get a book in Harlem off the streets. Books like Stolen Legacy [and] The Isis Paper, you can find this stuff in the streets of Harlem…[or] Brooklyn. Just walking around in Manhattan. In the South, they won’t find that in the bookstores nor the streets; they have to research it. With Internet knowledge, there’s a better chance for education for all. But I’ve felt and I’ve seen…I got cousins out there that still live in the South. They have not picked up on the wavelength of where their mind should be. But hip-hop has helped it all evolve. Hip-hop, to me, is a blessing and a mercy for the black community first, then I’ll say for the urban community, and just for American culture.”
The last hit NY had was "Hot Nikka"
I don't count that dyke
NY got legends opening juice bars
I don't count that dyke
NY got legends opening juice bars
Dej Loaf
Outkast and No Limit kicked in the door in 97-98, by 2000 hip-hop was kinda 60%-40% in favor of NYC. Then about to 2003... Atlanta (especially) and New Orleans, Memphis had clearly taken over aside from 50 Cent, Dipset and Rocafella. After 2003 that all you ever saw were Magazine articles talking about "How can we bring hip-hop back to NY"
At that point nikkaz didn't even wanna listen to NY hip-hop anymore, especially here in Baltimore.
The ironic thing about is that by the mid-2000s it was the NY rappers complaining about southern rappers not fukking nikkaz from other regions particularly NYC.
It was just crazy how the south to took that shyt over.
At that point nikkaz didn't even wanna listen to NY hip-hop anymore, especially here in Baltimore.
The ironic thing about is that by the mid-2000s it was the NY rappers complaining about southern rappers not fukking nikkaz from other regions particularly NYC.
It was just crazy how the south to took that shyt over.
Nobody is saying that. New Yorker are elitists, period. As I said before " black New Yorkers are pretty much the white people of black people" always acting like THEY should set the trend and THEY should dictate the standards. They think they are better than all the other black americans. Any outsider like myself who didn't grow up in this country can see it almost at first glance.
But the topic of THIS THREAD is about how Southern rappers felt they had something to prove after that night. The East coast and West coast were at each other's throats way before that night. I mostly listened to East coast rap myself and when the West started making noise all NYers did was look down on them and then started saying shyt like "these guys are talking about gangs and shyt" as if Mobb Deep and them were t doing the same
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I have an honest dumb question: Is it me or like a trend or customary in American cultures that after you diss a region you can soften the blow or evade backlash by saying that you have family from there?
I'm asking because ive seen this done many times. I was taking a class last year and the guy that was teaching it , black very educated brother, said something about Alabama. Then caught himself (knowing some people in the class were from there) a few seconds afterwards he said "I can say that I have family from there" and then moved onto the next topic of the class.
It's not the first time I've heard this. I've heard many people from up North say things about Southerners wether in South Carolina or Georgia or wherever and then say "oh I have family down there".
Just a random Haitian asking
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Nintendough
#Kliq
Its a must watch for anyone who claims to love the genre. Sadly these younger fakkits dont care about history.
I have an honest dumb question. Is it me or like a trend or customary in American cultures that after you diss a region you can soften the blow or evade backlash by saying that you have family from there?
I'm asking because ive seen this done many times. I was taking a class last year and the guy that was teaching it , black very educated brother, said something about Alabama. Then caught himself (knowing some people in the class were from there) a few seconds afterwards he said I can say that I have family from there" and then moved onto the next topic of the class.
It's not the first time I've heard this. I've heard many people from up North say things about Southerners wether in South Carolina or Georgia or wherever and then say "oh I have family down there".
Just a random Haitian asking
It happens a lot, but I don't see how insulting a place, and then validating your argument by saying you have family there will keep someone off your ass, especially when the beginning of the insult didn't start with "my family from the south........."
They care about this just as much as you care about their artist
That's why i was asking. Because it's almost automatic for some of them. I guess it's like the Seinfeld episode about the standup comedian claiming he's "1/8 th jewish" so he's allowed to make jewish jokes.
Nintendough
#Kliq
Nikka why would Rolling Stones have to validate thenselves to Maroon 5? You think backwards. Then again you share an account with your wife too so....
The Amerikkkan Idol
The Amerikkkan Nightmare
I think the crowd would've been better in New York, Chicago, or Atlanta or anywhere else.
We all loved New York Hip-Hop & grew up on it.
Everybody loved LL Cool J & Run DMC & Melle Mel and them.
If you love Hip-Hop you grew up idolizing New York rappers.
New York abused that privilege. They could've embraced people that looked up to them instead of dissing them..
prophecypro
Hollywood North
Definetly affected Pac, Big, Nas and Kast's careers
Jacaveli The Don
Superstar
The Death Row crew performance on the night was EPIC by the way