Was this '95 Source Awards really a pivotal moment in hiphop?

[HarlemHottie]

Breh, so you are saying RZA was in "mixed company with foreign blacks" when he said this in the interview? You cannot deny he said it because not only is it well documented in a damn PUBLISHED magazine but it cause Southerners to call him out on it to the point he had to have another explain himself and backpedal a bit as seen in the article that @old boy posted in response to my post. So you're saying we "foreign black" have that much influence or are you calling all these magazine reports FALSE? This it not a rethorical question. I need your answer. Either find the plotting with foreign blacks in the interview process or outright call out all these credible news sources for outright lying. Even @KodeBlue who i assume is AA admits that it does happen.

As for the story i told about the professor saying it in my class I'm sure since all the class session videos are recorded live i can look for it and post a ling for you to hear what he said verbatim. Granted he was from GA and he was talking about Alabama and still had to be on some "well i can say that. I have family there"

But one fact that you CANNOT deny is that among black americans, the northerners DO look down on their southern brothers as if they are "lower class" or "uneducated" and therefore "inferior". Read through RZA's explanation/apology and he in a way reinforces that mindset.
But dont mind me and these here FACTS. It's us "foreign blacks" causing you to be divided among yourselves on some "divide and conquer" type shyt because.. you know.. we are world conquerors
Some of you and your Uncle Ruckus "dont trust them new n*****s over there" type mindset is hilarious

A. I'm a brehette.

B. Lord save me from stupid people this fine Sunday.

Once I started being around foreign blacks, there were a lot of ashamed AA's trynna separate themselves from the root of the tree..

I placed the blame where it belonged, on the treasonous AA's themselves. Before foreign blacks got here, we was ALL country. My mother's generation was the one where Northern AA's started trying to differentiate ourselves from Southerners, the 60's- 70's and shyt, coincidentally the same era we got a lot of foreign blacks. Same thing in my own life: we were all varying degrees of country in Harlem amongst ourselves, but when we went to hs in different neighborhoods, we encountered foreign blacks in large numbers socially and tried to switch it up. I think the shame is a result of encountering cosmopolitan, globe-trotting bp for the first time.

I'll await your apology.

 

[intruder]

A. I'm a brehette.

B. Lord save me from stupid people this fine Sunday.



I placed the blame where it belonged, on the treasonous AA's themselves. Before foreign blacks got here, we was ALL country. My mother's generation was the one where Northern AA's started trying to differentiate ourselves from Southerners, the 60's- 70's and shyt, coincidentally the same era we got a lot of foreign blacks. Same thing in my own life: we were all varying degrees of country in Harlem amongst ourselves, but when we went to hs in different neighborhoods, we encountered foreign blacks in large numbers socially and tried to switch it up. I think the shame is a result of encountering cosmopolitan, globe-trotting bp for the first time.

I'll await your apology.

Apologize for what, darling?
Whatever reasons your mother's generation came up with to shyt on their southern brethren is none of my business, darling. They are still YOUR brethren. I'm an outsider looking in. Theyre the ones you'll need to make it up to to end the division among you all as as people. I just don't agree with you using "foreign blacks" as an excuse.

But I'll say it's funny how people like you think every issue within the black community is somehow someone else's fault, tho. All the sudden foreign blacks being present is why you need to shyt on your people.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

Doesnt always have to be. Canadians invented basketball. Americans adopted it and perfected it. Germans invented jet engine. After WW2 Americans offered the german engineers from those german corerations and now all the leading get engine manufacturers in the world are in...? America. Togolose and Beninois gave birth to the voodoo religion. And when you mention voodoo who do people typically picture in their minds? Haitians

So yeah just because you invented something doesnt mean to get to hog it up for life. shyt evolves. You get it to where you can and eventually may sometimes have to let someone else put their spin on it.

Basketball & jet engines aren't a culture.

Cultures are self-sustaining worlds that require a certain level of gatekeeping in order to keep them fresh and pure.

You change Hip-Hop too much and it just isn't Hip-Hop anymore

 

[CrimsonTider]

Basketball & jet engines aren't a culture.

Cultures are self-sustaining worlds that require a certain level of gatekeeping in order to keep them fresh and pure.

You change Hip-Hop too much and it just isn't Hip-Hop anymore

You not liking something doesn’t mean it loses its identity

Just means you’re an out of touch lame

 

[HarlemHottie]

Apologize for what, darling?
Whatever reasons your mother's generation came up with to shyt on their southern brethren is none of my business, darling. They are still YOUR brethren. I'm an outsider looking in. Theyre the ones you'll need to make it up to to end the division among you all as as people. I just don't agree with you using "foreign blacks" as an excuse.

But I'll say it's funny how people like you think every issue within the black community is somehow someone else's fault, tho. All the sudden foreign blacks being present is why you need to shyt on your people.

Apologize for being absolutely wrong. Don't play dumb with me. I've said, twice now, that I blame "treasonous AA's." I don't know how to be more clear. You sound like a bytch who just wanna be mad for no reason. You should work on that.

 

[bangbreh]

I'm not sure this was a serious question
From Kast accepting the award, Snoop then Suge, all those had big implications.
Kast turned around and set the world on fire and the E/W coast beef stayed hot because of this.
It was like the Appalachian meeting of the mobsters back in the day.
Wasn't Sticky and them bustin shots on stage that night too
The atmosphere in that place must have been

 

[intruder]

Apologize for being absolutely wrong. Don't play dumb with me. I've said, twice now, that I blame "treasonous AA's." I don't know how to be more clear. You sound like a bytch who just wanna be mad for no reason. You should work on that.

Mad for what, darling? I just made an observation and people replying. This isnt my fight. I'm not AA. I'm not even sure what i'm wrong about because obviously based on the replies many agree with me that some AAs do behave in such manner. Again, it's not my fight so you think i give a fukk about your excuse that you have your own traitors within your camp that you need to reel in? You think you're the only black ethnicity that has traitors to deal with?
As everyone in here know, i'm not the type to let PRIDE blind me. Tell me what i was wrong about and i'll have no problem apologizing. I i agree that i was wrong of course.

 

[Phantum]

People also forget that during this time was the early beginning of Soundscan. CAC executives were like people are really buying records of black people just talking? Labels started scouring the entire country for acts like the gold rush. Or simply creating some fake persona in house.

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

A. I'm a brehette.

B. Lord save me from stupid people this fine Sunday.



I placed the blame where it belonged, on the treasonous AA's themselves. Before foreign blacks got here, we was ALL country. My mother's generation was the one where Northern AA's started trying to differentiate ourselves from Southerners, the 60's- 70's and shyt, coincidentally the same era we got a lot of foreign blacks. Same thing in my own life: we were all varying degrees of country in Harlem amongst ourselves, but when we went to hs in different neighborhoods, we encountered foreign blacks in large numbers socially and tried to switch it up. I think the shame is a result of encountering cosmopolitan, globe-trotting bp for the first time.

I'll await your apology.

Facts.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

You not liking something doesn’t mean it loses its identity

Just means you’re an out of touch lame

Wrong.

Karate is a part of Japanese culture.

If a bunch of nikkaz from Detroit started putting a bunch of shyt into Karate that's not true to what Karate is, then it's not Karate or Japanese anymore, making it an invalid part of the culture.

You can't just add and subtract shyt from people's cultures without any regard for the people who built it.

That's some White man ass culture vulture shyt right there.

 

[Wild self]

Outkast and No Limit kicked in the door in 97-98, by 2000 hip-hop was kinda 60%-40% in favor of NYC. Then about to 2003... Atlanta (especially) and New Orleans, Memphis had clearly taken over aside from 50 Cent, Dipset and Rocafella. After 2003 that all you ever saw were Magazine articles talking about "How can we bring hip-hop back to NY"
At that point nikkaz didn't even wanna listen to NY hip-hop anymore, especially here in Baltimore.

The ironic thing about is that by the mid-2000s it was the NY rappers complaining about southern rappers not fukking nikkaz from other regions particularly NYC.

It was just crazy how the south to took that shyt over.

They took over because of the appeal of the Strip Club culture and being the polar opposite/alternative to the grimey street corner drug lord. Once those females were on board on the southern wave, it was curtains of the pre-gentrification NYC.

 

[TrebleMan]

Then they released ATLiens

 

[badboys11]

Wrong.

Karate is a part of Japanese culture.

If a bunch of nikkaz from Detroit started putting a bunch of shyt into Karate that's not true to what Karate is, then it's not Karate or Japanese anymore, making it an invalid part of the culture.

You can't just add and subtract shyt from people's cultures without any regard for the people who built it.

That's some White man ass culture vulture shyt right there.

man fukk u bunch of nikkaz from detroit. fukk u dead ass


and dah shining was better than southernplayalisticadillacfunkymusic

 

[Roland Coltrane]

I got both albums when they came out and i disagree but that's just me. Just saying I enjoyed the OutKast album more than I did Smiff's.

Of the BCC family I was mostly into Smiff and Heltah Skeltah. Overall, I loved Smiff-N-Wessun, OGC and Heltah Skeltah and always felt that they don't get their due props outside of NY. But as weird as it may seem I was never a big fan of Buckshot himself.

Buckshot is lowkey wack and overrated to me, and most times I skip his verses

 

[Roland Coltrane]

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That's how I know what I'm talking about



There were no West Coast artists, who were famous nationally until like '89-'90.

All those nikkaz grew up worshipping Run-DMC, LL Cool J, and Rakim

Ice T was popping before that