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Probably, but there aren't many of those anymore. I need to see Drummond and Monroe be as dominant as Westbrook and Durant before I say Detroit's bigs can make them contenders. Guys COULD come, but who's the last big FA that Detroit has signed? I'll believe it when I see it.

Washington's got a pretty solid roster top-to-bottom:

Wall/Price
Beal/Crawford (they need Beal to improve though. Wall should help with that)
Webster/Ariza
Nene/Seraphin/Booker
Okafor/???

That's an athletic, young squad. Okafor could be a good trade chip next year too if they regress or need to make a move to improve the squad. Plus, they're gonna have another high draft pick after this season.

breh, look at those names. That team is at best a 6th seed in the East. At best, and there is not much room for improvement as Nene is 30, Ariza is older, Okafor aint that good and explosive anymore. The athleticism is on the perimeter, not the front court (except Webster, who could be something. Only thing about him is that we will have to give him a bad contract).

And give them a season, Drummond is going to make a big difference as long as he doesnt get a serious injury.
 

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If Wall ever learns to hit a jumper than it's a wrap. His speed is another level than most players and its obvious the Wizards are nowhere near the worst team in the league if he's healthy all season. He just gotta go in the gym on some serious shyt and work on that j. D-Rose came back with a jumper after one off season so i know John can do the same.
 

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If Wall ever learns to hit a jumper than it's a wrap. His speed is another level than most players and its obvious the Wizards are nowhere near the worst team in the league if he's healthy all season. He just gotta go in the gym on some serious shyt and work on that j. D-Rose came back with a jumper after one off season so i know John can do the same.

To be fair, People have said that about rondo for 4 years
 

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It seems that way to me. As we saw earlier this year though, health is probably their biggest concern. Stay healthy and they should be in the playoffs next year.
At the end of the day, it will come down to coaching. We still not there yet in that department.
We should of won todays game by 30+ but our bench mix isn't even close to good right now.
And Randy seems to not adjust very well for the bench. He just lets them look terrible out there sometimes.. doesn't mix it up enough. Its the reason we seem like we can never beat a San Antonio. IF its just pure basketball we can outrun/gun anybody. ONce smarts gets involved, we are usually outmatched.
I look to Chicago and see how that TEAM wins no matter who is playing.
When we can be more like that, skies the limit. If we had a 2nd PG we could feel good about, that would make a HUGE difference imo...
That was without Wall for a good chunk of that. Nene missed a ton of games too. Let's not overlook that. :beli:
Swag knows whatz up. He just a sound believer in the coli-jinx so he has to remain overly optimistic
 

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breh, look at those names. That team is at best a 6th seed in the East. At best, and there is not much room for improvement as Nene is 30, Ariza is older, Okafor aint that good and explosive anymore. The athleticism is on the perimeter, not the front court (except Webster, who could be something. Only thing about him is that we will have to give him a bad contract).

And give them a season, Drummond is going to make a big difference as long as he doesnt get a serious injury.

Bruh, our C/PF position is straight. Who has a "clearly" better combo that can come in here and just outplay them two :stopitslime:
You name it, I'll entertain what you saying. Nene is good for another 4 to 7yrs.
I say 7 because his style of play isn't above the rim. Now will his Plantar issue cut that short? But until then, he's top 3 quality, top 10 production.
Okafor isn't old :wtf: And he's more solid/reliable at that position than most Centers. He'll body up anyone and keep them out the lane. What more do you want??? Plus we got a high draft pick to add to that sooner than later.
Ariza is also a great player that isn't old like your implying. You always had a negative outlook on the Wiz, but I'll just let you say you was wrong next year when we
 
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Rondo' jumper got better tho...

So has walls. Whats clear bruh is you have NO PATIENCE for shyt.
Rondo's jumper didn't clearly look better each year and then turn into something decent.

He was ass.. then one year he wasn't ass anymore. Simple as that.
It'll happen with Wall soon enough. The one thing that is clear when he shoots is you don't see him get down on himself like he did his rookie season and the start of year 2

His confidence would drop so low, you could FEEL it thru the TV
Its the reason TODAY ppl are like "I don't know it it'll ever :usure: "
Because it was so bad during those stretches. All J.Wall needs a a couple of good shooting games to build up that confidence slowly. Then to keep it going
But even more importantly, everyone else needs to hit there shots which is happening now for the first time in Walls career. Pistons have a brighter future :bryan:/:stopitslime:
 

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So has walls. Whats clear bruh is you have NO PATIENCE for shyt.

a) you completely missed my point. I was saying Wall can improve his jumper like Rondo's has.

b)
In saying that, I am happy he confident in his jumper now as he wasnt before. But its still :scusthov:


I am happy he is willing to take it. The next step is for dude to start draining open jumpers consistently. I think he can do that, and when he does he will be a top 3 point guard, at least. And I am willing to wait because dude has special player ability.
 

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breh, look at those names. That team is at best a 6th seed in the East. At best, and there is not much room for improvement as Nene is 30, Ariza is older, Okafor aint that good and explosive anymore. The athleticism is on the perimeter, not the front court (except Webster, who could be something. Only thing about him is that we will have to give him a bad contract).

And give them a season, Drummond is going to make a big difference as long as he doesnt get a serious injury.

Ariza's only 27 and Okafor is still a solid center.

To me, a lot of it comes down to what I was gonna ask next and Courtdog touched on: coaching.

Nobody would look at San Antonio's roster and say that team should have the best record in the League, but Pop puts it together. Same thing with the Bulls w/o Rose and Thibs coaching.

If you don't think Whitman is that guy, which all signs point that way, he should get dumped for a better coach. That's the best way they can improve.

At the end of the day, it will come down to coaching. We still not there yet in that department.
We should of won todays game by 30+ but our bench mix isn't even close to good right now.
And Randy seems to not adjust very well for the bench. He just lets them look terrible out there sometimes.. doesn't mix it up enough. Its the reason we seem like we can never beat a San Antonio. IF its just pure basketball we can outrun/gun anybody. ONce smarts gets involved, we are usually outmatched.
I look to Chicago and see how that TEAM wins no matter who is playing.
When we can be more like that, skies the limit. If we had a 2nd PG we could feel good about, that would make a HUGE difference imo...

Swag knows whatz up. He just a sound believer in the coli-jinx so he has to remain overly optimistic

:obama:
 

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Ariza's only 27 and Okafor is still a solid center.
Ariza doesnt start anymore and Okafor is a)not a still a solid center b) isnt even playing center for this team.

To me, a lot of it comes down to what I was gonna ask next and Courtdog touched on: coaching.

Nobody would look at San Antonio's roster and say that team should have the best record in the League, but Pop puts it together. Same thing with the Bulls w/o Rose and Thibs coaching.

If you don't think Whitman is that guy, which all signs point that way, he should get dumped for a better coach. That's the best way they can improve.
Whitman is a terrible coach, dont get it twisted. But the Spurs have Duncan and Parker who are still playing at an all star to elite level. The Wizards dont have that.
 

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We need a new GM. Grunfeld is pretty bad in terms of the draft in finding guys who have basketball IQ and skill. I'm not going to go into his draft day blunders like 2011 and 2009 cause those are well documented. Grunfeld also overpays role players and squanders cap room and then when things don't work out he has to consistently clean his mess.

The fact that Ernie has the reins over the 2013 offseason is concerning. Webster is going to get overpaid. Our high 2nd round pick will be sold. The kid he drafts will probably be a bust especially since this draft sucks in general. The player development department headed by Ed Tapscott is a joke and players have regressed in their time here. Seraphin, Vesley, Singleton, have not gotten better. Wall was coached to abandon the 3 point shot. Why the hell did they drill that in his head? His rookie year he was shooting close to 30% but he shot it with confidence and even had a game winner from 3.

The team now has their excuse that being healthy is what they need to gamble on to be good. AJ Price isn't who we want backing up Wall. The lack of effort to find a quality backup PG is concerning.
 

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Gruenfeld gets no props unless he fires whitman and hires Stan Van this summer. For sake of Wall and Beal's development that needs to happen.
 

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Gruenfeld gets no props unless he fires whitman and hires Stan Van this summer. For sake of Wall and Beal's development that needs to happen.

Grunfeld ain't firing Wittman. Ted Leonsis tied these guys together till after next season.

Leonsis is probably the most loyal owner in the NBA and that's horrible. Grunfeld ain't done shid for this franchise. All he can do is build teams that can get to the 2nd round and that's it. He made no effort to improve the team with Gilbert Arenas being one of the league's most deadly scorers in the game.
 
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This nikka Courtdog just said Vesley was an excellent pick :heh: dude is the WORST.
Vesley, Crawford, Booker, Ariza must go ASAP
 
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