We always talk about producers, but did you know top mixing engineers charge $4,000-$5000+ per mix?

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My post was mainly a jab at TDE's seemingly lackadaisical effort with regards to putting out music. I'm still tight we ain't get a black hippy album yet
Yeah don't hold your breath on that Black Hippy album. That's not happening
 

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Considering how infrequent they put out albums he ain't eating too much. In 7 years Kendrick has 3, Q has 3, Soul has 2, Jay Rock has 1. That's like $65k a year on average
K has 4, rock has 2, soul got 4, think q the only one you got write plus don't forget their mixtapes
 

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Teach me then breh I really wanna make it how there but everyone knows it's even tougher for a producer to break the ice

I'm not going to look through your account,

If you have an active history posting in the beat forum - where were you when I posted my threads seeking business partners?


If you don't send me a message, I've never been anyway to turn anyone a way from learning something.
 

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I'm not going to look through your account,

If you have an active history posting in the beat forum - where were you when I posted my threads seeking business partners?


If you don't send me a message, I've never been anyway to turn anyone a way from learning something.
Only time I posted in the booth was during beat battles I got tagged in 90% of my other post are in TLR
 

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ffs here ...He said he did the entire mix in the box, he might have had monitors or headphones....but I remember him talking about using the actual laptop speakers to mix low end.....I might have been wrong, heres the entire interview ....



ahh word ok thats a difference. so to your point , youre right, and you dont need fancy equiptment... just a powerful laptop, good ears and good monitors. he mixed the record ON a laptop in the box. but with headphones or actual monitors. thats pretty common and thats how the dude 40 does a lot of his shyt. all of the so far gone mixtape was mixed like that, and some of thank me later was done like that too in a hotel room in NYC mixed minutes before it was supposed to goto mastering. but laptops speakers have no low end response at all...
 
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you don't need a lot of examples to understand the difference. a mixed record sounds cleaner than an unmixed record. that is basically it.

if you produce a beat, you have different instruments and/ or samples that make up the beat. say you have a very simple beat made up of a drum track (kicks, snares, hihats), a bass track, a piano track and a synth, plus vocals. the different drum sounds, the bass, the piano and the synth all have their own track and need to be mixed to sound good together. so the first thing you normally do is to adjust the volume of the different tracks, because you want some sounds to be louder than others.

another thing is panning, which means positioning sounds more to the right or to the left. for example, drums and bass make up the core of the track and therefore, they are normally placed dead in the center, which means neither left, nor right (but if the drums contain percussion, the can be positioned to the right or to the left). but other instruments can be placed more to the right or to the left, especially if you have a lot of different instruments, because if all of them are positioned in the center, things sound cluttered and flat. by adding reverb effects you can also move sounds more to the back ( together with the volume and the eq, basically the lower (both volume and eq) the sound and the more reverb you add, the farer away a sound appears). so with these elements, volume, reverb and panning you can assign all the different sounds a specific spot.

another thing you need to take care of are frequencies. each sound is made up of different frequencies: highs, lows and mids. if you take our example, the bass sound has a lot of low frequencies, and less highs and mids. since the piano also has low frequencies, bass and piano together will sound muddy, because your ear won't be able to really distinguish between the low frequencies of the piano and the low frequencies of the bass. so what you will to is, take an eq, and cut the low frequencies in the piano sound, to make room for the bass. then, you will probably take away some of the highs and mids in the bass, to make room for the piano. the same is true for the synth, which, if it's a lead sound, will probably consist of mainly mids and highs. in order for your ear to distinguish between the synth and the piano, you could cut highs from the piano and take away mids from the synth. then you do all of these things for the vocals, which will probably consist of different tracks too. when you're done, your song will sound cleaner than it did before, because now your ear can differentiate better between the sounds that make up your record. it's kind of like tiding up a room. if things are just cluttered all over the place it looks bad, and even if you know where everything is, it's more difficult to find what you are looking for. after cleaning it up, everything is where it's supposed to be, the room is more pleasing to the eye and if you need something, you know where to find it.

another thing you do when mixing is compression. that's a bit more difficult to explain to someone who isn't a sound engineer, but it's mainly about the dynamic and the perceived volume of sounds. since a sound that is too loud will sound distorted, you lower the loudest elements of a sound, which allows you to give more volume to the overall sound before it distorts. compression also helps you to "glue" the different sounds together.

if you want to know what an unmixed/ badly mixed song sounds like, listen to the first three mood muzik mixtapes by joe budden. than compare it to any of the songs on compton and you will know the difference between a good mix and no mix.
Good explaination.
 

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Mixing a record is 10x harder than making a beat cause your not just adding sounds on top sounds you're dealing with all kinds of frequencies and trying to keep all those sounds from clashing wile keeping it all sounding good. A 5 year old kid can beat on a pad and make a beat (check YouTube) but I yet to see a professional kid engineer.
 
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