Tony D'Amato
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Can Marines join the Navy Seals?
We DO negotiate with terrorist, 5 gitmo detainees traded for a American solider.
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6 soldiers died trying to find this guy who left his base willingly to meet up with talibans
why not just say 1000 soldiers died looking for him, while Bergdahl was meeting up with Hitler while we're at it? Who cares about confirmed facts in this day and age anyway?
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88m3
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No doubt about that, but they weren't in the opportune position to get ambushed.
I wonder what they think about our tactics and what they've done to circumvent them.
Why? Why do some of you just wanna bury your head in sands and ignore the fact that we traded five high level terrorists for a traitor?
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They were in as much position to be ambushed as the Americans were, especially considering US air superiority.
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A traitor would be someone who willfully committed an act towards the US forces or gave up key information. None of it has been proven true. He does deserve to be charged with desertion and placed in a cell, that's for sure. I need to see the evidence for being a traitor though. That's a grave charge.
Meanwhile, we traded 5 people who have been unconstitutionally kept as prisoners without being charged properly, in a place that shouldn't exist. They have been removed from the battlefield for 10 years. We freed German and Japan POWs almost instantly in some cases. In return, we brought someone who could possibly be mentally ill and is an American. Oh, and he might have 5 years worth of intel to provide about movements, tactics, leadership structure and so on.
The man is not a hero. He is not an honorable man in my opinion. He committed a crime and should be punished for it barring a mental evolutional qualifies him as mentally incompetent. He made it be known that he wanted to come home.
That being said, it does set a dangerous precedent. I don't appreciate the President and Democrats having a victory parade and press events for it. His administration also surely committed a crime by not notifying congress and the subsequent excuses about the Sergeant's deteriorating health doesn't excuse that in my opinion. He absolutely deserves backlash as well.
88m3
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Kinda would have goosed the whole transfer though?
Kings County
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yall cant be this stupid u think barry would ruin his legacy like that heres what really happened
its not a coincidence that the news said there was a leak of the guys name in Afghanistans name a couple days ago then they made this swap he was in the cia undercover agent breh his cover was compromised they had to get him up outta here
I agree with you for the most part. We traded German/Japanese POWs with their countries government to signal the end of conflict/War. Talibans are insurgents and the conflict is still ongoing.
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Good. And no one died looking for this man.
They died fighting in a war. In a war, there are different missions and objectives. They were in area of operation conducting regular contact patrols. If the patrol frequency increased because of them trying to find this man, it doesn't change the fact that they died coming in contact with the enemy, the same enemy they would have faced on any other day. I have yet to see proof of strategic or tactical change of course that can be pointed to as a means for those 6 men dying to look for Bergdahl.
You are just blowing semantics now. Soldiers would have been sent on a specific mission to find him after he went missing. Taliban would have known american soldiers would come looking for him, making the ambush easier. He did cost soldiers their lives.
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At the end of the day. He is home, and won't be gettin' beheaded on video. The people mad about it will get on with life. The dudes released in exchange are just 5 more humans in sandals thousands of miles away. If people are shook cause of that they are timid and frail. Right decision was made.
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A specific mission to find him would be something like Bin Laden or the Captain Phillips situation. Two of those men died on post in a base. The 4 others during what amounts to contact patrols in the AO, something that (should) happen everyday anyway (the patrols, not the deaths). RIP to them, but their deaths cannot be specifically traced to looking for Bergdahl.
You go on patrols to make contact with the enemy. That's the entire fukking point of a contact patrol. You bring the enemy out, close on them and kill them. Or be killed.