We DO negotiate with terrorist, 5 gitmo detainees traded for a American solider.

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Something else is going on. 5 for 1 and we get the traitor back. Dude must have been a secret double agent or something. Or a trade happened for something else privately. This is definitely a magicians trick that is going on. We are being distracted from something else.

i sure hope there is something else going on because if not this is one of obama's worst ideas
 

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i sure hope there is something else going on because if not this is one of obama's worst ideas

I'm thinking this was the Pentagon's decision. Then the guy's father is all Bin Laden Jr... I'm smelling mass PsyOp going on.

Infowars might be on the money with this one..

But considering that the Obama administration moved to secure his release barely a week after the White House accidentally revealed the head of CIA operations in Afghanistan, in addition to other strange circumstances, Bergdahl may have actually been an embedded intelligence asset who allowed himself to be captured in order to infiltrate the Haqqani network, yet was ultimately endangered by the Obama administration’s blunder.
 

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I'm thinking this was the Pentagon's decision. Then the guy's father is all Bin Laden Jr... I'm smelling mass PsyOp going on.

Infowars might be on the money with this one..

But considering that the Obama administration moved to secure his release barely a week after the White House accidentally revealed the head of CIA operations in Afghanistan, in addition to other strange circumstances, Bergdahl may have actually been an embedded intelligence asset who allowed himself to be captured in order to infiltrate the Haqqani network, yet was ultimately endangered by the Obama administration’s blunder.
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And righties love the troops but hate this deal because....Obama. Imagine if Obama had left this soldier behind and he was killed...a white solider at that? Fukk an impeachment, they'd try to lynch his ass on the white house lawn

Righties are framing the debate for political purposes, as they always do. Ostensibly, the negotiating was through the government of Qatar.

Fox is 'swiftboating' the sgt. because Obama saved him. The political discourse in this country is completely embarrassing, because conservatives and their ilk are held to low standards of behavior and intellect.
 
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D.C. pols are twisted to the 10* .....hard to figure out who's on first. I think the Pentagon plays offense and defense in the Middle East theater to keep those humongous budgets coming. President Eisenhower broke it down about the military industrial complex during his farewell address. I won't post it but its easy to find on the www.
 

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Why The Five Taliban Detainees Had To Be Released Soon, No Matter What
BY KEN GUDE, GUEST CONTRIBUTOR JUNE 2, 2014 AT 12:08 PM UPDATED: JUNE 2, 2014 AT 12:40 PM


CREDIT: AP PHOTO/MILITANT VIDEO, FILE

Less than forty-eight hours after securing the release of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl in exchange for five Taliban detainees held at Guantanamo, Republicans in Congress and conservatives in media began attacking the deal. In doing so, they are refusing to accept the reality of the situation on the ground in Afghanistan and the way wars end.

The United States is engaged in an armed conflict in Afghanistan against al Qaeda, the Taliban, and associated forces authorized by Congress under the 2001 Authorizations to Use Military Force. It is remains controversial whether this armed conflict extends beyond Afghanistan and the border regions of Pakistan, but what is not in doubt is that of the enemy forces party to this conflict, the Taliban is confined to Afghanistan and Pakistan. President Obama recently announced that the combat role for the United States in the armed conflict in Afghanistan will end this year and all participation will completely cease by 2016.

When wars end, prisoners taken custody must be released. These five Guantanamo detainees were almost all members of the Taliban, according to the biographies of the five detainees that the Afghan Analysts Network compiled in 2012. None were facing charges in either military or civilian courts for their actions. It remains an open question whether the end of U.S. involvement in the armed conflict in Afghanistan requires that all Guantanamo detainees must be released. But there is no doubt that Taliban detainees captured in Afghanistan must be released because the armed conflict against the Taliban will be over.

Sgt. Bergdahl was a U.S. soldier captured in an active zone of combat. The circumstances of his capture make him a Prisoner of War, not a hostage as some have erroneously claimed. In traditional conflicts, both sides would release their prisoners at the conclusion of hostilities. This is not a traditional conflict, however, and the Obama administration rightly had no expectation that Sgt. Bergdahl would have been released when U.S. forces redeployed out of Afghanistan. As that date neared, any leverage the United States possessed would have been severely undermined.

Conservative critics, however, are stuck fighting the political fights of the last decade and refuse to appreciate the cunning maneuvers that secured the release of the lone American soldier taken prisoner in Afghanistan at little risk to the security of the United States.

Rep. Mike Rogers (R-MI) said of the move, “I believe this decision will threaten the lives of American soldiers for years to come.” Other Republicans have joined in the chorus since the deal was announced, including Rep. Howard “Buck” McKeon (R-CA), chairman of the Armed Services Committee, calling for hearings over the agreement. Even though Rogers is the Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, he offered no evidence to support his charge. That’s because the evidence demonstrates that the Obama administration has been remarkably successful at preventing detainees it has released from Guantanamo from engaging in militant activities against the United States.

Statistics from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence show that only 6 percent (5 in total) of Guantanamo detainees released during the Obama administration have been assessed to have potentially engaged in militant activities. That compares with a rate of nearly 30 percent under the Bush administration. While these statistics have been criticized as including activities that no one should consider threatening the security of the United States, such as writing op-eds critical of U.S. policy, no one is arguing that they are undercounting those detainees who potentially have committed violent acts upon release.

So the statistics show that there is a 5 percent chance at most that these detainees will engage in militant activities upon release, they will be in Qatar for at least a year by which time the U.S. combat role in Afghanistan will be over, and they would have had to be released soon anyway. When put in the proper perspective, obtaining the release of the sole U.S. prisoner in Afghanistan is a masterstroke and worthy of congratulations.

The five detainees that were included in the deal would have to be released soon anyway because the U.S. involvement in the armed conflict against the Taliban is ending. And the Obama administration has been exceptionally good at preventing released Guantanamo detainees from engaging in militant activities against the United States, especially compared to the Bush administration. It’s time to move on from the constant political fights of the last decade and conservatives critics should simply be celebrating the return home of Sgt. Bergdahl.

Ken Gude is a Senior Fellow at the Center for American Progress, where he focuses on issues involving detainees, privacy, and technology.

Why The Five Taliban Detainees Had To Be Released Soon, No Matter What | ThinkProgress
 

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I'm thinking this was the Pentagon's decision. Then the guy's father is all Bin Laden Jr... I'm smelling mass PsyOp going on.

Infowars might be on the money with this one..

But considering that the Obama administration moved to secure his release barely a week after the White House accidentally revealed the head of CIA operations in Afghanistan, in addition to other strange circumstances, Bergdahl may have actually been an embedded intelligence asset who allowed himself to be captured in order to infiltrate the Haqqani network, yet was ultimately endangered by the Obama administration’s blunder.

There is levels to this shyt.:ohhh:Yeah can someone explain why the dad is rocking Bin Laden type beard and speaking Arabic on tv?

I saw on CNN, this video he made to his son, his beard is all grown out, and what he is saying was almost cryptic, like it wasn't straight forward like "We miss you son, and are praying for you", it was some other weird shyt.


I wouldn't be surprised if another 9/11 type shyt happens, Dems/Republicans don't give a fukk about the average Americans, they want the truly powerful (top 1%) to benefit tremendously after a disaster.
 

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they won't be a problem, 10+ years of enhanced interrogation techniques :troll:likely turned their brain to mush.
 
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AMERICA HAS ALWAYS DONE DEALS WITH DICTATORS & TERRORISTS THROUGH OFFICIAL (cIA, nsA, etc) OR UNOFFICIAL CHANNELS.....

CASE IN POINT:
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and:

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But americans have always had a fickle fukking memory of shyt they done in the past....

...But certain people dont forget! :stopitslime:
 

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Obama will do what his senior military advisors "ask" him to do. shyt does seem terrible from the outside looking in, but that's exactly what this is. We don't know the details so I'm not getting on the faux outrage train.
Exactly. This is the Military's work. I just don't understand why Obama signed off on this. This guy is going to either be suicidal or homicidal, or both when he gets back and hears all the insults. I just hope he doesn't live near me and mine. He's probably more dangerous than the dudes Obama released :lupe:
 

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all black folks was concerned about getting this black face in the whitehouse, after he got in, yall aint really check him on the bullshyt and lies.
Hope and change my azz.. peeps acutally thought he was going to make a difference.
I voted for him the first time. He talked a good game.

Second time, I voted for Gary Johnson. I knew O was full of shyt by then. Now he is going into bullshyt overdrive.
 

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Obama will do what his senior military advisors "ask" him to do. shyt does seem terrible from the outside looking in, but that's exactly what this is. We don't know the details so I'm not getting on the faux outrage train.
it does not seem terrible at all from any angle
6 people are home
how can this be bad?
 
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