"We lie about what Michael Jordan did and didn't do"

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:francis:Hate to agree with his annoying azz but he might be right.

Hes being harsh but hes trying to make a point. They arent as far apart as many like to think. When people compare the two, everyone loves nitpicking Lebron, but youre not allowed to nitpick Jordan. Not because you can't, but because it's blasphemy if you do. Well, he just nitpicked Jordan in 3 mins using facts only.:manny: If Jordan was truly untouchable, then this literally wouldn't be possible.
 

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When you saw D-Wade against the Mavs in 2006, that was the Jordan treatment.

You don't see Lebron getting those type of calls, nor did Kobe for much of his career.

You knew everytime Jordan drove to the bucket a whistle was coming.

He was basically the golden boy qb. If you touched him there was going to be a whistle 9/10 times which led to the creation of the Jordan rules. Let him get his points just stop everyone else because Jordan was untouchable.
 

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if you're going to post stuff like this, at the very least you could either put some actual thought into it to do some research 1st. I'm going to assume you're not old enough to know what you're talking about. Jordan WAS killed by the media when the Bulls loss to the Pistons. he was criticized from the time he came into the league for being a scorer and not a player like magic. how a guy who lead the league in scoring couldn't lead a team to title.

as for Jordan losing in the 1st rd his 1st 3 years in the year, if you're not gonna give context for your arguments then whats the point?
The point being that later success and time has made that criticism fade.
Just like it will AND SHOULD with Lebron James.

And James will be viewed as one of the Top 5 or outright greatest player ever.

The least you could do is see the obvious connection without it having to be explained like a 5 year old boy.
 

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everytime I see a clip of this guy its the EXACT same thing. he's trying to be the anti Skip Bayless. and why does his voice sounds like that :why:
Difference is he was strictly facts while Ski uses psychological mumbo jumbo and says things that are just factually wrong and trolling. This guy has an annoying voice but he's not saying anything that isn't true.
 

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Difference is he was strictly facts while Ski uses psychological mumbo jumbo and says things that are just factually wrong and trolling. This guy has an annoying voice but he's not saying anything that isn't true.
using "facts" without context makes him no better than Bayless. Bayless uses some "facts" also when smearing LeBron

Fact Lebron has lost more finals than he's won. now you could use context with that fact or you can just try and use it as a tool to "win" an argument. they both do it to "win" arguments.
 

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You guys know that in the Jordan era, the hand check rule didn't exist? Who in here knows basketball? If the answer is yes, do you even know how insane that would be to place a rule like that with Jordan? They implemented that rule as soon as he retired for good.

What wasn't mentioned publicly was Kobe and MJ's relationship. You knew Kobe was obsessed with Jordan's game, going as far as wagging his tongue like him, but Jordan was his mentor. They would breakdown everything together. You almost have to give Bron more props, because even though Kobe is considered the "closest" thing to MJ, 32 year old Bron is arguably the greatest in his era. Could you even imagine Mike being Bron's mentor?

As for the topic, Lebron stans think he is the GOAT right now, so the story of "Air" is a myth. "How could Bron surpass him if people exaggerate Jordan more? As soon as Bron have 6 titles, he'll immediately surpass him." That's the problem. The man did it all, but soon he'll have so much pressure to win 6/7, that I could see his love of the game diminish.

I rank Jordan over Lebron but when people talk about this hand check rule no one every considers the fact that there was also no zone defense in Jordan's time and how he lobbied hard against it and said he never would have had the career he had had zone been allowed during his professional career.
 
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Lebron James regular season career fta's - 8.3

Jordan regular season career fta's- 8.2

Lebron playoff fta's - 9.1

Jordan playoff fta's -9.9

Jordan 8772 free throw attempts in 1072 games

Lebron 8414 free throw attempts in 1015 games.Lebron has led the nba in fta in the playoffs the same amount of times as jordan

people dapped your misinformed post when you have access to look this info up
This is flawed data...

Jordan's numbers look less impressive because of MJ's injury plagued '86 season as well as his Washington years when he was only getting to the line 4 times a game.
 

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Another overlooked fact that is that Jordans first championship came against a Lakers team without Magic.

Magic played in and got hurt in game 1 and that's the only game the Lakers won.

It was NO CHANCE the Lakers would win that series without Magic.
 

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This is flawed data...

Jordan's numbers look less impressive because of MJ's injury plagued '86 season as well as his Washington years when he was only getting to the line 4 times a game.

Take out the return from retirement season,the broken foot season and both wizards years = 9.1 fta's a game

866 games /7855 = 9.07 so jordan averaged 1 more fta than lebron during his bulls career which debunks the " jordan gets all the calls it's not even close" non sense
 
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