I think that formula really goes back to the 90s. Another interesting thing is you had people like Queen Latifah , Lauryn Hill, Bobby Brown etc sining and rapping on the same track many years ago but it wasn't a clear distinction when they rapped then sung and now it's not and that is my beef. Biggie is another that did this from time to time.i had a convo with friends bout this the other day. The early 2000 formula was R&B song feat hottest rapper like fab jada jay-z nelly. Then labels wanted to promote their own artist but only as hook singers ashanti olivia etc and if they got hot enough they might get an album.
Plus the R&B dudes wanted to be thugs and spit they own 15 bars instead of paying someone. Its low key underground now but who got time to dig thru all the wack artists to find the good stuff
We lost our R&B .......its gone....damn
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Ya'll swore Sam Smith and Adele took this shyt about a decade ago.
Go head on with these tired arguments
Remember when Macklemore and Iggy Azalea were gonna take over Hip Hop in 2014?
Adele, Sam Smith, Justin Timberlake, Ariana Grande (her R&B songs), none of them will ever take over R&B, it's still a black genre, sure they have success but white artists will never be the face or the standard of R&B ever.
NWA made excessive cursing cool and had kids hiding their tapes from their parents. Cause cursing in any form by kids is forbidden by parents, even in a song. Explicit music also drives families away from listening to songs with each other.
Like back in the day, you can enjoy listening to Marvin Gaye, Earth Wind and Fire, and even Cameo with your family in your house. No worry about cursing, ratchet shyt, none of that. It made families bond together and made them stronger.
Now, these ratchet autotune songs is restricted to your homies. Not even your kids or parents can hear it.
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You should look up what a c00n is.
Some R&B artists decided to be "rap-singers" because R&B didn't sell anymore and only rap did. They went where the sales are.
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Hope there's puddin' in the clink...
Stay pumpin this.
Imma fan.
Been feeling these lately. The sultry sounds just calls for a night out with good company, drinks and conversation...
Wait for the change up at :19.
I'm glad you said it, this is that safe crossover pop-n-b shyt that's in every suburban white kids playlist nationwide
bring this soulless bland bullshyt in a black church in the south and you'll hear a pin drop
They can’t sing it’s that talk singing shyt smh .Like others will tell you it's good R&B out there if you search . The issue I feel is on the mainstream level & the "others" who have been let in.
Oh & Altho some are good why every female sound like Summer Walker
I done came across about 4 different new singers who all sound the same from voice to production to song writing
@dora_da_destroyer @ThiefyPoo y'all noticed this?
It’s very annoying and I wish they would stop cussing .
Hold up....I know this is a gospel song, but when this song dropped a few years ago it took off like a rocket:
listen to her singing from her GUT, the unpolished rawness in her vocals, listen how the production doesn't OVERPOWER her singing it compliments it
you young ninjas born in the 90's will suck your teeth and do a body roll or whatever - but this is your culture right here, quit letting white people dictate our shyt!
listen to her singing from her GUT, the unpolished rawness in her vocals, listen how the production doesn't OVERPOWER her singing it compliments it
you young ninjas born in the 90's will suck your teeth and do a body roll or whatever - but this is your culture right here, quit letting white people dictate our shyt!
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Hold up....I know this is a gospel song, but when this song dropped a few years ago it took off like a rocket:
listen to her singing from her GUT, the unpolished rawness in her vocals, listen how the production doesn't OVERPOWER her singing it compliments it
you young ninjas born in the 90's will suck your teeth and do a body roll or whatever - but this is your culture right here, quit letting white people dictate our shyt!
I remember her from The Voice. There was a thread on her I posted in a few years back. This is the kind of singing most whites don't like because they can't copy it
And she was like 15 in this
This at the bolded. I'm a big fan of Babyface's production work but some of the shyt he did for other artists didn't age too well.
Listened to a El Debarge album he produced the other day and it was mostly
with those beat kits .
Ya' Cousin Cleon
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Ya' Cousin Cleon
OG COUCH CORNER HUSTLA
that's wild 
Overall, not really. But I’m old too lol. So that goes back to my original point. Most Marvin Gaye fans (who were fans when his music was released, not younger cats who picked it up later) weren’t feeling 90s artist as much either. It was too vulgar for them. It was just “copying” older music too much in their eyes. They couldn’t sing as well. Etc.
The 20 somethings must like this current music, cuz they’re consuming it.
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