We may witness a historically low Raw rating this Monday (1.75; Record low avg of 2.478m viewers)

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

At this point, only the hardcores are watching live on Monday nights and that number is somewhere between 2 or 3 million. Rollins, Owens etc are good at what they do. Very talented. But the characters aren't moving the needle. Something about these dudes. They aint bringing in no new casuals. Sorry

Its just unarguable.

 

[StatUS]

At this point, only the hardcores are watching live on Monday nights and that number is somewhere between 2 or 3 million. Rollins, Owens etc are good at what they do. Very talented. But the characters aren't moving the needle. Something about these dudes. They aint bringing in no new casuals. Sorry

Well they also have no idea how to make heroes and situations that matter. The in ring competition is as good as it's ever been top to bottom but if the matches and characters don't matter it's moot. They last great character they had was Daniel Bryan and that wasn't them it was the fans who forced that push. And the thing is we know Vince can book a great show (post-draft Raw) but he's still stuck on getting his goofy daughter over and making Roman the next force that he can't focus on anything else.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

All Hillary had against him was that he insulted some beauty contest winner, lied about his opinion on global warming and a few other minor things.

Whereas Trump can use the fact that she's married to a rapist, her emails, the Benghazi deal, her whole Haiti situation, selling arms to ISIS, her and Hussein Obama giving terrorists 400 million dollars etc etc, I could go on.

Even if Trump is a racist (which he isn't) and a bit of a liar, that's nothing compared to terrorist Hillary who will ruin the country even more than Hussein Obama has.

 

[llt23]

:kobelol: Then why did he leave TNA?

Its always been politics. Russos dumbest decision was leaving WWF cause he felt like he wasnt getting due praise. That was a bytch move he has to live with til the end of his days. McMahon would protect him in WWF, in TNA and WCW he had to deal with all the politics and wasnt able to just focus on writing shows.

Like I said, dude gave us the Attitude era. And like breh said earlier, WWF woulda been the ringmaster versus Maivia and wrestling woulda been totally dead. How can you be a one hit wonder when every1 was getting over in the attitude era, from Dlo to Val Venis, let alone Austin, Rock, Foley, Taker etc. Him leaving, which led to eventually Stephanie taking over creative is what killed wrestling.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Hmph, looks like NFL/Politics overlap, but WWE/Politics doesn't.

 

[R=G]

Donald Trump Vs Hillary Clinton Most Watched Debate In TV History At 81M+ Viewers

Across 12 TV networks that carried live Trump’s first skirmish on the same stage with Hillary Clinton, 81 million viewers tuned in, setting a new record for televised presidential debates.

That total does not include PBS or C-Span, whose tallies are typically not included in numbers issued to commercial networks, one of which, CNN, looked at the data and first reported the total take across the dozen nets.

Viewing also does not including people who watched outside their homes, in bars, etc. — but then Nielsen never has included those stats in its tally tracks of TV’s 60 years of televised presidential debates.

That initial 81M for the Trump/Clinton clambake also does not include online viewing, which this year more than ever will drive up significantly the viewing level.

All of these adds will catapult the Clinton-Trump kerfuffle over the previous record holder: Ronald Reagan’s one 1980 debate with Jimmy Carter, which logged 81M.

President Obama’s first debate against Mitt Romney, for comparison’s sake, averaged 67M viewers in 2012.

Nielsen will issue its formal tally later today.

Twitter had a crystal clear HD link of the debate with no lag, buffering, or any bull $hit.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Yall are trying hard as fukk to make Russo an all time great

It's basically the equivalent of propping up Ja Rule or Nelly.

 

[Silkk]

Its always been politics. Russos dumbest decision was leaving WWF cause he felt like he wasnt getting due praise. That was a bytch move he has to live with til the end of his days. McMahon would protect him in WWF, in TNA and WCW he had to deal with all the politics and wasnt able to just focus on writing shows.

Like I said, dude gave us the Attitude era. And like breh said earlier, WWF woulda been the ringmaster versus Maivia and wrestling woulda been totally dead. How can you be a one hit wonder when every1 was getting over in the attitude era, from Dlo to Val Venis, let alone Austin, Rock, Foley, Taker etc. Him leaving, which led to eventually Stephanie taking over creative is what killed wrestling.

But he failed twice in WCW, and 3x in TNA. He even went back to WWE in 02 but was quickly demoted for being an idiot

 

[Silkk]

It's basically the equivalent of propping up Ja Rule or Nelly.

Lets take it easy there, them nikkas got classics

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Raw still got murdered by MNF and beat by Love and Hip Hop like always though.

Yep. Plus, it was a debate between a cartoon character in Trump, and potential first ever woman president in Hillary, two huge needle movers vs two teams that people really don't care about. The WWE would've been washed more had that bee. Broncos/Pats or something

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Lets take it easy there, them nikkas got classics

......Mims? J-Kwon?

 

[Silkk]

......Mims? J-Kwon?

 

[Rell84shots]

Well they also have no idea how to make heroes and situations that matter. The in ring competition is as good as it's ever been top to bottom but if the matches and characters don't matter it's moot. They last great character they had was Daniel Bryan and that wasn't them it was the fans who forced that push. And the thing is we know Vince can book a great show (post-draft Raw) but he's still stuck on getting his goofy daughter over and making Roman the next force that he can't focus on anything else.

Vince doesn't book the shows, Triple H is running that stuff now.

 

[mrken12]

Vince doesn't book the shows, Triple H is running that stuff now.

But I was told that the Kliq runs the business.

 

[StatUS]

Vince doesn't book the shows, Triple H is running that stuff now.

Vince is still the head booker of Raw homie. Final say on Raw is always Vince no matter what.